Trump vying for Greenland and Canada

[Lizbeth]

As Donald Trump makes his return to the White House, he is poised to shatter long-held taboos, particularly those surrounding territorial expansion.

Wow.

Have you consider there are some taboos that exist, thankfully, because of the influence of Christianity in the world..?

Governments have a responsibility to act wisely and administrate national affairs in the best interests of their nation. But we as believers need to distinguish between the holy and the common/profane don't we. And we as believers can support wise actions on part of our respective governments as long as they are lawful, but surely not if they are unlawful. There is a God who judges both believers and governments/nations....it's sad that some folks here don't seem to think there is.

 

[Scott Downey]

Wow.

Have you consider there are some taboos that exist, thankfully, because of the influence of Christianity in the world..?

Governments have a responsibility to act wisely and administrate national affairs in the best interests of their nation. But we as believers need to distinguish between the holy and the common/profane don't we. And we as believers can support wise actions on part of our respective governments as long as they are lawful, but surely not if they are unlawful. There is a God who judges both believers and governments/nations....it's sad that some folks here don't seem to think there is.

Hmmm, well Christianity is personal as in saves individuals, not nations, although I do think living in a quasi-nominally Christian country is going to be a nicer place to live and raise family.

I am not one of those 'Dominionism' Christians. The kingdoms of this world are not the kingdom of God.

 

[Lizbeth]

Here, we disagree. Over compensating is over spiritualizing. Guarding too much against what is red. There’s nothing wrong with wanting your material needs met - and acting to meet them.

You disagree? That's what the bible says, new testament. I will give you chapter and verse if you need it. But it doesnt seem you understand what it is saying if you think it is saying there is something wrong with "wanting our material needs met". Do you understand what idolatry is? Read the old testament and find out. It means worshiping the things that meet our needs instead of the One who provides them.

 

[Scott Downey]

You disagree? That's what the bible says, new testament. I will give you chapter and verse if you need it. But it doesnt seem you understand what it is saying if you think it is saying there is something wrong with "wanting our material needs met". Do you understand what idolatry is? Read the old testament and find out. It means worshiping the things that meet our needs instead of the One who provides them.

What is Christian dominionism? | GotQuestions.org

What is Christian dominionism? Should Christians attempt to restore God’s kingdom and the Mosaic Law in the world today?

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Take a read here and see if you agree

 

[Lizbeth]

1867. Not a Trump idea!

Well, I want to remind you about 1812. Whose idea was that, and perhaps we should consider that God sovereignly decided the issue...? Do you want another war of 1812 which would not involve just a handful of muskets this time? Good golly, someone please talk some sense to the President-elect if you think he might be at all serious about this.

It is a dangerous world. The choice is to guard against or be overcome by it.

Oh my. You have no idea how ironic you are being. Yes, that is what Jesus and the apostles taught! I hope we will all take their advice and instruction.

 

[Wrangler]

You disagree? That's what the bible says, new testament. I will give you chapter and verse if you need it. But it doesnt seem you understand what it is saying if you think it is saying there is something wrong with "wanting our material needs met". Do you understand what idolatry is? Read the old testament and find out. It means worshiping the things that meet our needs instead of the One who provides them.

This is not a well thought out post. Wanting your material needs met is idolatry now? Yea, please provide that chapter and verse.

 

[Wrangler]

Yes, that is what Jesus and the apostles taught!

Jesus said to sell your cloak to buy a sword if you don't have one.

Every single US President has been Christian. Every single one. Somehow as of late, many in Christendom feel they are too good to dirty their hands in the real world of meeting people's material needs.

 

[Scott Downey]

Denmark people in favor of a US takeover of Greenland, will save them money.
Denmark already supports a separation from Denmark to be an independent country.
Presents all the good reasons to do this.

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[Dan Clarkston]

Denmark people in favor of a US takeover of Greenland, will save them money.
Denmark already supports a separation from Denmark to be an independent country.
Presents all the good reasons to do this.

Good deal, and since we will have to refurbish Greenland... no need for us to pay anything for it.

And just wait till we strike oil in Greenland! It's going to be a cash cow at a time when we need to get our own finances under control

 

[Wrangler]

This is not a well thought out post. Wanting your material needs met is idolatry now? Yea, please provide that chapter and verse.

@Lizbeth, still waiting on that verse that says wanting your material needs met is idolatry.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

@Lizbeth, still waiting on that verse that says wanting your material needs met is idolatry.

It can easily become idolatry... as anything can become idolatry once the Lord is not longer the first place in one's life.

I've heard preachers teach on marriage where essentially they are saying one should put their spouse and/or their children first place in their lives and that is idolatry

I've heard of people that throw what God's Word teaches about homosexuality out the window once one of their kids announces they are now a pervert... and that is idolatry because they embrace and celebrate their child's sexual perversion as being acceptable when it's an abomination before the Lord.

That's one of satan's dirty little tricks he tries to pull on people is to get them to put something, anything before the Lord engaging in idolatry and then deceive them in to thinking it's all good.... usually by getting them to believe the false doctrines of OSAS.

After all, if one is convinced that it's not possible to lose one's salvation.... then at that point it doesn't matter to them if they engage in sinful behavior or not because they think they are still saved and thru this deception satan has choked the Word out of them (see - Mark 4:13-20) and they are no longer bearing fruit and as Jesus tells us in John 15 they are cut off the vine.

Once folks get into this, it's rare for them to repent and quit their sinful behavior and they become reprobate

 

[Lizbeth]

This is not a well thought out post. Wanting your material needs met is idolatry now? Yea, please provide that chapter and verse.

Please be patient, I'm not young anymore and don't keep up with threads as well as I used to.

This is the verse in question:

1Co 7:29-31 (KJV)

But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none;
And they that weep, as though they wept not; and they that rejoice, as though they rejoiced not; and they that buy, as though they possessed not;
And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away.

1Co 7:29-31

What I mean, brothers and sisters, is that the time is short. From now on those who have wives should live as if they do not;
those who mourn, as if they did not; those who are happy, as if they were not; those who buy something, as if it were not theirs to keep;
those who use the things of the world, as if not engrossed in them. For this world in its present form is passing away.

The Greek word katachraomi (translated as abusing and being engrossed in KJV and NIV) conveys the meaning of mis-using, over-using, over-indulging. There's an old song that says "the things of this world grow strangely dim" , which to me conveys the idea of the proper place of things of this world to the believer. We may use the things of this world to meet practical needs, of course (God knows that we need them before we ask), but they are not what we are to set our heart upon, our hearts should be set on the Lord, who provides for our needs. We should not put our eggs in the basket of this world, not be overly invested in things of this world. That is not where our trust is to be, or our affections, or what we are to spend all our energies and focus on, etc, otherwise that is a form of idolatry. We must not put the temporal things of this temporal world, whether politics or anything else of this world (practical things or institutions and worldly concerns) before God. Jesus said to seek first HIS kingdom, and all these things (that we have need of) will be ADDED unto us. We are to seek those things that are ABOVE and only treat this world as if we are strangers passing through (because we ARE strangers passing through), not having our roots and hopes and affections and focus in this world. I wish I could explain this better.

 

[Lizbeth]

Jesus said to sell your cloak to buy a sword if you don't have one.

Every single US President has been Christian. Every single one. Somehow as of late, many in Christendom feel they are too good to dirty their hands in the real world of meeting people's material needs.

Jesus told His disciples that because He was about to be taken from them for a time....it was meant to be a deterrent only, to discourage the arresting band from arresting the disciples along with Jesus. (And I believe there is even another deeper message in His words.)

As for every President being Christian, well we shouldn't be naive....there are Christians and then there are Christians. Not everyone who says, "Lord, Lord, didn't we do thus and such for you, will enter the kingdom of heaven, only those who do the will of the Father."

 

[Scott Downey]

Greenland’s Unique Kvanefjeld Multi-element Rare Earth Project | Johnson Matthey Technology Review

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Significant amount of uranium and rare earth elements are in Greenland.
China has been the only major producer of rare earths. Something the US is concerned about.

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At a time of consolidation and increased regulation of the rare earth sector in China, Greenland may become an important new source of rare earth elements, particularly the elements critical to the growing magnet sector.

Greenland is located in the North Atlantic Ocean between North America and Europe and is the world’s largest island, 2.2 million km2, of which approximately 80% is permanently covered with ice. The Kvanefjeld project, one of the largest rare earths deposits in the world, can be found in the south of Greenland near the town of Narsaq.

The project comprises three linked deposits (Kvanefjeld itself, Zone 3 and Sørensen). These three deposits contain 1 billion tonnes of mineralised ore. The predominant mineral is steenstrupine, which hosts both rare earths and uranium in significant quantities.

The Kvanefjeld project is owned by Greenland Minerals and Energy (GME) who acquired the Kvanefjeld project in 2007 and has spent approximately US$60 million developing the project to its current advanced stage.

In total the three deposits contain approximately 270,000 tonnes of uranium and 11 million tonnes of rare earth oxide. The Kvanefjeld deposit is the largest and most rigorously defined of the three deposits and as a result it is this deposit that is the focal point of studies to evaluate the feasibility of mining and processing for the project.

GME has undertaken extensive metallurgical test work on material from the project area, including bench scale and pilot plant tests, and has developed a flow sheet for economically processing Kvanefjeld ore. The flow sheet, which utilises well developed technologies, comprises a beneficiation circuit, an atmospheric leach circuit and solvent extraction circuit.

At the project site GME plans to construct a mine, a concentrator, a uranium and rare earth refinery and rare earth separation plant (see Figure 1). These will be supported by sulfuric and hydrocric acid plants and supporting infrastructure (power plant, port, accommodation, roads) some of which will be located near the town of Narsaq.

 

[Wrangler]

Significant amount of uranium and rare earth elements are in Greenland.
China has been the only major producer of rare earths. Something the US is concerned about.

Overly spiritualized Christian’s don’t see the danger and take shelter. Proverbs 27:12

 

[Taken]

BUT! Indigenous people and others, some will not like their land mined for minerals.

The vast majority of Greenland is not inhabited.
Mining creates jobs…. Spinning off to other industries and jobs…food suppliers, hotels, housing, transportation…
A clean slate of sorts…of planned communities…(rather than clogged filthy congested cities and corrupted education systems, among other things)

Just saying a worthwhile venture for prosperity of people to provide for their own and strategic defense for US.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Significant amount of uranium and rare earth elements are in Greenland.
China has been the only major producer of rare earths. Something the US is concerned about.

Yep and if we don't occupy Greenland... the communists will be shortly.

 

[Lizbeth]

Overly spiritualized Christian’s don’t see the danger and take shelter. Proverbs 27:12

Oh dear, you think that speaks to the church about worldly things?

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Oh dear, you think that speaks to the church about worldly things?

It is speaking to those living in this world.... as those that have gone to be with the Lord don't need to shelter from anything since there is no evil or darkness in God.

 

[Lizbeth]

It is speaking to those living in this world.... as those that have gone to be with the Lord don't need to shelter from anything since there is no evil or darkness in God.

I'm thinking along the lines of.....we are not to fear man but fear God.......and the name of the Lord is a strong tower, the righteous run into it (HIM) and are safe....and in this world we shall have tribulation but fear not for He has overcome the world. The word of God doesn't teach us to trust in the arm of the flesh or to trust in horses and chariots (things of this world).