There Ain’t No Way This Guy Is Saved......Right?

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Michiah-Imla

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The doctrine you are trying to pass off here is from a book written by a person with an immense bias.

I have read the Bible exclusively for doctrine. I have not spent any meaningful time in any other book.

Question your teachers

I have no teachers. I read the Bible only.

Sounds like something you need to do.

Don't just listen to your preacher and then ignore everything else

Assumption on your part is not wise.

Spend more time in the Bible and less time listening to your teachers.

I haven’t met an unleavened preacher yet. Therefore I have no preacher to corrupt me from the truth.
 

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I have read the Bible exclusively for doctrine. I have not spent any meaningful time in any other book.



I have no teachers. I read the Bible only.

Sounds like something you need to do.



Assumption on your part is not wise.

Spend more time in the Bible and less time listening to your teachers.

I haven’t met an unleavened preacher yet. Therefore I have no preacher to corrupt me from the truth.



Here we see another prideful “ self - taught” man who refuses to listen to God-Sent Teachers that just might know a little more than Himself....

Yep—— just about ALL of these Self- Taught guys have one Thing in common : They are self- taught and it shows....
 

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I do not think going around judging and condemning others is part of God's love.

It is amazing how biased and hypocritical people can be towards others.

Me being an example of hating, judgement and condemnation of others.

You should know that hate is not good. Damaging the relationship between God, others around you, and yourself.
 

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Those verses? I don’t know....how many verses are in Galatians? The entire Book is dedicated to calling out your type that falls for a “ False, Perverted “ Gospel”.....I have neither the time nor inclination to type out the entire Book in this thread....you might want to “ key in” on chapters One and Five.....even though I suspect your blindness will continue....

The Romanists say “ Give us a child until he is Seven, and we got him for life”...... you are a shining example of this sad , but true observation.....

you were going to explain these verses in light of “faith alone”

explain Jn 15:1
Or matt 24:13
Or 1 cor 13:1
Or 1 cor 13:13
Or Phil 1:29
Or rev 2:2
Or rom 13:11
 

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"And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? …Who will render to every man according to his deeds: To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: For there is no respect of persons with God." (Romans 2:3-11)

Wanna “ do good?” Rest in the Gospel.....God will IMPUTE you with all the “ Righteousness “ that you will ever need to get to Heaven.

Wanna “ do evil? “ Reject the Gospel Of Grace ( 1cor15:1-4) It is what Paul referred to as “His Gospel” ......Paul said in Romans that “THIS” ( his gospel) was what God would use to judge you by.....Add to that Gospel at your own risk......When you go beyond, “ Nothing But The Blood”, you have Added to it......
WRONG - that's not what Jesus says.
I explained this to you what the Bible defines as "Belief" in Christ back in post #80 - and you couldn't respond to that, either . . .

Jesus says that WE will be judged by wat WE DO or DON'T DO . . .
Matt. 25:40-46

And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you DID it to one of the least of these my brothers, you DID IT TO ME.’
“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you DID NOT welcome me, naked and you DID NOT clothe me, sick and in prison and you DID NOT visit me.’ Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you DID NOT DO it to one of the least of these, YOU DID NOT DO IT TO ME.’ And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”


Paul reiterates this point:
Rom. 2:5-11
He will render to each one according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are self-seeking and DO NOT OBEY the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury. There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who DOES evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, but glory and honor and peace for everyone who DOES good, the Jew first and also the Greek. For God shows no partiality.

THIS is why Jesus says he won't cover you if you disobey Him (Matt. 7:21-23).
Faith = Belief + OBEDIENCE.
 

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What is the objective goal of the Faith, bread of life?
 

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you were going to explain these verses in light of “faith alone”

explain Jn 15:1
Or matt 24:13
Or 1 cor 13:1
Or 1 cor 13:13
Or Phil 1:29
Or rev 2:2
Or rom 13:11

Too much work for something that would be a waste of time.....sorry....computer ink is too precious to waste...
 

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Salvation is 100 Percent Free, But Eternal Rewards
{incorruptible crown/reigning With HIM!} are 100 percent Earned!


be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
God's Simple Will
That's NOT what Jesus says.

God's LOVE is unconditional. He LOVES ALL people (John 3:16) and wills their salvation (1 Tim. 2:3-4),
Salvation, however is IS conditional on our cooperation with His grace (Matt. 25:31-46, Matt. 16:24, Luke 9:23, Matt. 7:21, James 1:22, Mark 16:16, John 14:15, 15:10).

Remember, God's WILL is that ALL be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth (1 Tim. 2:3-4) - but it ISN'T going to turn out that way . . .
 

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Your Sacraments are an addition to Paul’s Gospel Of Grace....Read Galatians.....you are “ Fallen From Grace” and don’t even know what the term means....
This proves you don't know what a sacrament is. Matrimony is also one of the seven sacraments (outward signs of an inward grace). Is Matrimony an addition to Paul's Gospel of Grace? Is Baptism an addition to Paul’s Gospel Of Grace?
 
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Salvation is 100 Percent Free, But Eternal Rewards
{incorruptible crown/reigning With HIM!} are 100 percent Earned!

what about the sacraments?
What about 'em? my FAITH IS What God Uses for "the means of GRACE from
Christ’s Merits Of HIS ALL-Sufficient CROSS-Work"
FOR HIS 100% FREE
Gift of ETERNAL Life
!!

Matrimony is also one of the seven sacraments (outward signs of an inward grace).
Puleeeeze, "married" ATHIESTS who Reject God's FREE GRACE Cannot HAVE:

"outward sign of an inward grace"

AFTER my "initial" FAITH Of JUSTIFICATION, Then, walking/running the
GRACE race, and "fulfilling ALL Of His Law, In "ONE Word: LOVE your
neighbor as yourself!" (
Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10 KJB!)
{sanctification}, I WILL RECEIVE:


Eternal Rewards {incorruptible crown/reigning With HIM!},
WHICH are 100 percent Earned!


NOT Any
made up seven sacraments! Puleeeeeeeze:

be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
God's Simple Will
 

theefaith

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Salvation is 100 Percent Free, But Eternal Rewards
{incorruptible crown/reigning With HIM!} are 100 percent Earned!


What about 'em? my FAITH IS What God Uses for "the means of GRACE from
Christ’s Merits Of HIS ALL-Sufficient CROSS-Work"
FOR HIS 100% FREE
Gift of ETERNAL Life!!

not according to scripture
Faith and the sacraments Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-37
Acts 2:38 promise of the father or sacred oath AKA a sacrament

ez 36:25-27


Puleeeeze, "married" ATHIESTS who Reject God's FREE GRACE Cannot HAVE:

"outward sign of an inward grace"

AFTER my "initial" FAITH Of JUSTIFICATION, Then, walking/running the
GRACE race, and "fulfilling ALL Of His Law, In "ONE Word: LOVE your
neighbor as yourself!" (
Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10 KJB!)
{sanctification}, I WILL RECEIVE:


Eternal Rewards {incorruptible

crown/reigning With HIM!},
WHICH are 100 percent Earned!


NOT Any
made up seven sacraments! Puleeeeeeeze:

be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
God's Simple Will

see below for more info from the bible
 

theefaith

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Redemption, Justification, Sanctification, and Salvation!

Redemption: 100 percent the work of God, thru the life, death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus Christ! All mankind are redeemed in Christ! Eph 2
Galatians 2:16 3:13
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law...
Christ alone accomplished the redemption of mankind apart from any works on our part!

Justification: our acceptance of redemption thru faith and baptism! Become a disciple and member of Christ and His Church! Jn 3:5 acts 2:38 Mk 16:16 He who believes and is baptized shall be saved. 1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.


Sanctification: the life of grace in the holy sacrifice of the mass and sacraments, prayer, virture, and good works, the just living by faith, and faith working thru love! Phil 1:29 called to suffer with Christ.
All done in Christ thru His grace! Jn 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Salvation: a christian in the state if grace at the moment of death we enter into the salvation of the Lord! Mt 24:44-47 faithful servant! Jn 15:1-5 abide in me. Mt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Heb 3:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
Heb 6:11 And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:
Heb 4:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
Rom 13:11 ...for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

Suffering required for glorification with Christ!

Romans 8:17
And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

2 Timothy 2:12
If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:




1 Pet 3:20
Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark all died and outside the church there is no salvation!)
The holy church is the ark of grace and salvation!
 

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Post# 142
Here we see another prideful “ self - taught” man who refuses to listen to God-Sent Teachers

"Thou through thy commandments hast made me wiser than mine enemies: for they are ever with me. I have more understanding than all my teachers: for thy testimonies are my meditation." (Psalms 119:98-99)

Yep—— just about ALL of these Self- Taught guys have one Thing in common : They are self- taught and it shows...

It sure does! I am so good at destroying your man made teaching with the word of God that it reduces you to crying “THAT’S OUT OF CONTEXT!”

Get into the scriptures and allow them to reform you from error sir!

"Practice these things, immerse yourself in them, so that all may see your progress. Keep a close watch on yourself and on the teaching. Persist in this, for by so doing you will save both yourself and your hearers." (1 Timothy 4:15-16)
 

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What is the objective goal of the Faith, bread of life?
If I'm understanding your question correctly - the goal is Heaven.
Our goal is to spend eternity with God.

I think that this is a pretty universally held answer.
Why did you ask that? Did I say something to make you believe that this wasn't my goal?
 
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