The world has been “made right” in front of God.

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There are a few views when it comes to the world itself. The world is full of evil and good, but God is mad at it an is gonna burn it all down, is one view.

Me personally since I believe that Jesus came, died, was buried, and risen again and also returned, I believe we live under the new heavens and the new earth. Though the problems that exist all come from us as human beings but I do not see God as mad with everyone, and he is constantly calling every day for people to come to him.

Whether or not they listen. Is their choice, cause no one knows what truly on the heart of a person, when it comes down to the end of life. How much they either loved themself or actually had loved God. And he is a just and fair God who will judge the hearts we have.
 

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So my take on it completely is that God has established us under the new heavens and earth, where God calls out to all people.

I don’t believe God is any longer angry at the world and because of what Jesus had done, God views the world having been made right or changed to a prior state that was no before.

I believe God relinquished his wrath upon those whom he promised it to come up in the “Day of the LORD” where he justly gave Israel up to destruction for having killed his son, and his son returned to save those who continued to remain faithful with in that time…

Even so, the World if self is plagued with us human beings who make the choices to do wrong or right, we still are in need of a savior, that savior whom helped in the reconciliation process was Jesus and he is the one whom is needed to be believed on to have a changed heart by the spirit, which God gives.

While I see the world having been reconciled by God in Christ, it today I believe is seen to be “made right” made right in how things were meant to be before Adam and Eve were when it came to how they had connection to God, and when he got rid of Israel materially through divorcement and Yeshua came and took the bride in that day in age. This in turn placed us under the new heavens and new earth.

No one has to believe anything I said and shouldn’t, but seek out these things for themselves, it’s only the imputed righteousness of Christ which his righteousness makes us truly right with Yahavah.

While I see the world in a new state, and Jesus having covered the sins of the whole world, it seems that sin of unbelief is the only thing which separates us from God.

God is pleased by faith, and he rewards those who diligently seek him. And Jesus is the righteous which makes us right with God, it’s never ourselves.
 

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You got a scripture handy to back this up? Thank you.
I have to edit that, but yes, all sin are paid for by the Lord Jesus Christ for the whole world. Believer or not.

I can say to anyone today, that their sins haven forgive by God because of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ. Even if they don’t believe, it still remains true. Because his work is eternal.
 

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Hello @LatterRain,

In Paul’s writing to Timothy, we see this,
“If you explain these things to the brothers and sisters, Timothy, you will be a worthy servant of Christ Jesus, one who is nourished by the message of faith and the good teaching you have followed. Do not waste time arguing over godless ideas and old wives’ tales. Instead, train yourself to be godly. “Physical training is good, but training for godliness is much better, promising benefits in this life and in the life to come.” This is a trustworthy saying, and everyone should accept it. This is why we work hard and continue to struggle, for our hope is in the living God, who is the Savior of all people and particularly of all believers.”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭4‬:‭6‬-‭10‬ ‭NLT‬‬

Jesus Christ has covered all sins, otherwise his death was in vain. At least to me, God sent Jesus to save all people and reconcile the world unto himself. This is choice, faith or no faith, to look to God and to seek his will. Or not.
There remains a separation.

“Blessed are those who wash their robes. They will be permitted to enter through the gates of the city and eat the fruit from the tree of life. Outside the city are the dogs—the sorcerers, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idol worshipers, and all who love to live a lie. The Spirit and the bride say, “Come.” Let anyone who hears this say, “Come.” Let anyone who is thirsty come. Let anyone who desires drink freely from the water of life.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭22‬:‭14‬-‭15‬, ‭17‬ ‭NLT‬‬


Those who choose, to desire the things that God gives or not. Jesus has taken care of all the sin for all people in the world. Because many people it seems to discredit the work of him, and his doing on the cross for behalf of the Father and behalf of the world, at least to me.

God has made it possible through the death of Christ and his rising again all people can to come to him, or choose not to. If they choose to they will have a changed heart by the spirit.

“No, a true Jew is one whose heart is right with God. And true circumcision is not merely obeying the letter of the law; rather, it is a change of heart produced by the Spirit. And a person with a changed heart seeks praise from God, not from people.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭2‬:‭29‬ ‭NLT‬‬
 
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I know to most people I’m full of contradictions of things which may or not be true, it’s just the way life is, it’s not perfect. If I boiled the gospel down to its core components it would be “faith and love.”


All the best :Thumbsup:
 

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Romans 5:18 Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people.

The Cross of Christ is God's offer of Salvation.
This OFFER is universal.

To RECEIVE IT, you must BELIEVE... and then your "faith is COUNTED by God, on your behalf, as (Christ's) Righteousness"..


If you die never having BELIEVED, then you have not been forgiven your sin, so Jesus says you will "die in your sins" and in this case, having died in UNBELIEF.. the Salvation that Jesus has died to give you, is not given to you.

John 3:36
 
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It’s simple, easy, and if the world hasn’t been made right with God, by the justification of his rising again, idk what to say.
Can you tell me what you mean by Justification? Is it the same as Salvation?
 

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People will always differ and that is okay with me. People must seek out on their own accord, and search for answers on their own. Not everything I say will be correct. To think that would be silly.
God has gifted certain members of the body to teach the saints. Gifted members work to train the flock. I don't think that we are able to learn the truth without combining our training with gifted pastors and teachers who communicate the word to the saints either orally or in written form (like commentaries, etc).

Make sure when you read a commentary, that you first determine if he can communicate the Word. The Holy Spirit guides the learning process with gifted people.

When I am getting ready to buy a commentary, before I actually buy it, I go to 3 difficult texts in the commentary and see if the teaching/writer can explain those 3 difficult passages. If he can't, don't get the commentary. Run the book by a pastor or respected teacher to see if he recommends it. Read Reviews on it. just do your homework before you read such a book.
 
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hello @KUWN,

I’ll answer your question if you’ll answer mine do you believe Jesus came back or still coming back?
 

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The Cross of Christ is God's offer of Salvation.
This OFFER is universal.

To RECEIVE IT, you must BELIEVE... and then your "faith is COUNTED by God, on your behalf, as (Christ's) Righteousness"..


If you die never having BELIEVED, then you have not been forgiven your sin, so Jesus says you will "die in your sins" and in this case, having died in UNBELIEF.. the Salvation that Jesus has died to give you, is not given to you.

John 3:36
Right you are. …whosoever BELIEVES in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
 

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God has gifted certain members of the body to teach the saints. Gifted members work to train the flock. I don't think that we are able to learn the truth without combining our training with gifted pastors and teachers who communicate the word to the saints either orally or in written form (like commentaries, etc).

Make sure when you read a commentary, that you first determine if he can communicate the Word. The Holy Spirit guides the learning process with gifted people.

When I am getting ready to buy a commentary, before I actually buy it, I got to 3 difficult texts in the commentary and see if the teaching/writer can explain those 3 difficult passages. If he can't, don't get the commentary. Run the book by a pastor or respected teacher to see if he recommends it. Read Reviews on it. just do your homework before you read such a book.

I’m not against people doing so. The thing about is, not everyone is right about every single thing on the market of Christianity. I know I’m most certainly not. It’s just about living faithfully trusting in God and his son, death, burial and resurrection, (could even included his return which I believe personally already happened.)
 

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I’m not against people doing so. The thing about is, not everyone is right about every single thing on the market of Christianity. I know I’m most certainly not. It’s just about living faithfully trusting in God and his son, death, burial and resurrection, (could even included his return which I believe personally already happened.)
You have some pretty strange doctrines, I will have to say that. You are not reading a genuine mixture of authors based on your beliefs. Your statement about Justification is not at all biblical. You are using the wrong word for whatever it is that you are trying to articulate.

finally, you can't live "faithfully" unless you no what the Bible says. How can you obey the Lord without first knowing what the bible teaches regarding Justification. I can assure you that you are using a childish term (Justification) to try to explain some doctrine which I can't figure out what you are trying to communicate.

Do you mind telling me your top 5 authors/books that you are reading.
 

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Hello @KUWN, I believe he has already came back. You see, I see the World has been made right with God because of Jesus death, burial, resurrection and return. It’s been reset back to the natural state which Adam had lost, and Jesus had won back. Jesus has justified all sins being paid for on behalf of the world, in order that God in Christ has reconciled the world unto himself. Now people make the choice to either A. Eat from the tree of life of B. Eat from the tree of the knowledge and good and evil. When it comes to justified in being seen right with God, that comes from Jesus, whom to me is the tree of life, he the one whom gives eternal life by feeding us what we need into our soul, though I don’t believe every thing in the Bible may specifically pertain to us. You can consider the information but no one here has to believe me. I’ve stood on this notion now for a long time.
 

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People can live faithfully looking to God, though, @KUWN, the Bible states (Psalms 19:1) that God be seen from the natural creation state, and if a person seeks God and has faith and love; without known Jesus until the afterlife. Then so may God do what he needs to in order for all people to know of his existence whether or not they believe is up to them. God is not angry or mad at them in my best estimation. God so loved the world he created it (by and through his spoken Word), and also sent his Son to save it.
“Jesus shouted to the crowds, “If you trust me, you are trusting not only me, but also God who sent me. For when you see me, you are seeing the one who sent me. I have come as a light to shine in this dark world, so that all who put their trust in me will no longer remain in the dark. I will not judge those who hear me but don’t obey me, for I have come to save the world and not to judge it.”
‭‭John‬ ‭12‬:‭44‬-‭47‬ ‭NLT‬‬

“The heavens proclaim the glory of God. The skies display his craftsmanship. Day after day they continue to speak; night after night they make him known. They speak without a sound or word; their voice is never heard. Yet their message has gone throughout the earth, and their words to all the world. God has made a home in the heavens for the sun.”
‭‭Psalms‬ ‭19‬:‭1‬-‭4‬ ‭NLT‬‬
 
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I see the world as having been made right with God now today. People have had theirs sins taken care of whether they believe or not. The choice becomes what to do next.

If the world that now exists has already been made right with God how come the world is still burdened by sin and death?
 

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Hello @KUWN, I believe he has already came back. You see, I see the World has been made right with God because of Jesus death, burial, resurrection and return. It’s been reset back to the natural state which Adam had lost, and Jesus had won back. Jesus has justified all sins being paid for on behalf of the world, in order that God in Christ has reconciled the world unto himself. Now people make the choice to either A. Eat from the tree of life of B. Eat from the tree of the knowledge and good and evil. When it comes to justified in being seen right with God, that comes from Jesus, whom to me is the tree of life, he the one whom gives eternal life by feeding us what we need into our soul, though I don’t believe every thing in the Bible may specifically pertain to us. You can consider the information but no one here has to believe me. I’ve stood on this notion now for a long time.

The atoning blood of Christ paid the penalty, that is everlasting death, for all that God created in the beginning. By Christ's sacrificial atoning blood the sentence of death for ALL God created has been done away. That's why ALL that God created shall be made new when Christ comes the second time and death and the grave are utterly destroyed. We know that Christ has not yet come again because death and sin are still present and all that God created has not yet been made new. The Bible is abundantly clear that the new heaven and new earth shall not come until after this first heaven and earth have passed away. If that were already true there would now be no more tears, nor death, nor sorrow, nor crying or pain, for these things will pass away when Christ comes the second time to make all things new.

Revelation 21:1-5 (KJV) And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.