The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

[Ritajanice]

I have explained this many times but it just goes straight over the top of your head

You have denied that a Born Again does not sin because they have been Born of Gods seed.

What does being Born Of God’s seed mean?

If you can’t explain what it means to be Born Of God’s seed, then you are most definitely in no position to preach to me that I sin.

I am Born Of God and his seed remains in me!

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A Born Again has been set free from sin...by becoming clothed in the righteousness of Christ.

A Born Again is right before God, they are in his divine will...he has our spirit 100%, when Spirit gives birth to spirit.

We are partakers Of the divine nature..God uses his Children to do his will in earth, we are obedient to the leading of the Spirit, being conformed into the image of Christ.

The natural man / woman has no understanding of such spiritual matters ,just as his word says.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned

Romans 6:18-23​

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18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.
21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.
22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

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1 John 3​

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3 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.
14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?
18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
19 And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.
20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.
22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

 

[Christian Soldier]

You have denied that a Born Again does not sin because they have been Born of Gods seed.

What does being Born Of God’s seed mean?

If you can’t explain what it means to be Born Of God’s seed, then you are most definitely in no position to preach to me that I sin.

I am Born Of God and his seed remains in me!

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A Born Again has been set free from sin...by becoming clothed in the righteousness of Christ.

A Born Again is right before God, they are in his divine will...he has our spirit 100%, when Spirit gives birth to spirit.

We are partakers Of the divine nature..God uses his Children to do his will in earth, we are obedient to the leading of the Spirit, being conformed into the image of Christ.

The natural man / woman has no understanding of such spiritual matters ,just as his word says.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned

Romans 6:18-23​

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18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.
21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.
22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

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1 John 3​

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3 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.
14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?
18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
19 And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.
20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.
22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

I have not denied that a born again does not sin, but God denies that a born again does not sin. I have given you the scriptures to prove it but you ignore them at your own peril.

 

[Ritajanice]

I have not denied that a born again does not sin, but God denies that a born again does not sin.

If you can’t explain what it means to be Born Of God’s seed, or Born Of God then don’t preach to me that I sin.

I live in the old body of sin, I never said I had no sin, this old body of sin is just that, I am in the new man, the Holy Spirit cannot indwell the spirit, unless we have repented and he has forgiven all of our sins, past present, future,..the burden of sin has been lifted and we are in the righteousness of Christ, a Born Again has been made right before God, they no longer sin, because they have been Born of God, His seed remains in them.

I have never confessed any sin ,since becoming Born Of God’s seed,as I’m no longer a slave to sin, a Born Again does not sin because they have been Born Of God’s seed.

I have only repented once, when God brought me to repentance, ..he has forgiven all of my sins, past, present, future.

I live in the old body of sin, I now live in the new nature of Christ, I am clothed in his righteousness ..only the unrighteous sins.

Nobody is saying we aren’t without sin, as we still live in this old body that was full of sin at one time,
We’re in the new man,Born Of God’s seed, birthed by his Spirit.
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If I do wrong, I certainly don’t repent and ask for forgiveness, why would I do that when my sins were forgiven the night I became Born Of God’s seed.

My conscience is before God if I do wrong, ( not my sin)then I ask him to help me not repeat the same mistake...I never repent, I’ve been cleansed by the blood of the Lamb, there is no sin in my spirit, God can’t indwell the heart of a sinner.

16 Keep a clear conscience before God so that when people throw mud at you, none of it will stick. They'll end up realizing that they're the ones who need a bath. 17 It's better to suffer for doing good, if that's what God wants, than to be punished for doing bad.





What seed remains in them? @Christian Soldier ?

You say you have been regenerated, what has been regenerated and by whose witness?
Then you go on to say that you are Born Again day by day....?

Then never answer questions that are asked?..how is anyone supposed to understand you, when you never answer questions?

I have given you the scriptures to prove it but you ignore them at your own peril.

You have given me nothing.

I have been Born Of God’s seed..a Born Again does not sin because they have been Born of God.

When you can explain what it means to be Born Of “ GODS SEED?..then get back to me, in the meantime, you are in error, and you ignore that a Born Again does not sin because they have been Born Of God, you too ignore at your peril.

1 John 3​

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3 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.
14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?
18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
19 And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.
20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.
22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

 

[Christian Soldier]

If you can’t explain what it means to be Born Of God’s seed, or Born Of God then don’t preach to me that I sin.

I live in the old body of sin, I never said I had no sin, this old body of sin is just that, I am in the new man, the Holy Spirit cannot indwell the spirit, unless we have repented and he has forgiven all of our sins, past present, future,..the burden of sin has been lifted and we are in the righteousness of Christ, a Born Again has been made right before God, they no longer sin, because they have been Born of God, His seed remains in them.

I have never confessed any sin ,since becoming Born Of God’s seed,as I’m no longer a slave to sin, a Born Again does not sin because they have been Born Of God’s seed.

I have only repented once, when God brought me to repentance, ..he has forgiven all of my sins, past, present, future.

I live in the old body of sin, I now live in the new nature of Christ, I am clothed in his righteousness ..only the unrighteous sins.

Nobody is saying we aren’t without sin, as we still live in this old body that was full of sin at one time,
We’re in the new man,Born Of God’s seed, birthed by his Spirit.
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If I do wrong, I certainly don’t repent and ask for forgiveness, why would I do that when my sins were forgiven the night I became Born Of God’s seed.

My conscience is before God if I do wrong, ( not my sin)then I ask him to help me not repeat the same mistake...I never repent, I’ve been cleansed by the blood of the Lamb, there is no sin in my spirit, God can’t indwell the heart of a sinner.

16 Keep a clear conscience before God so that when people throw mud at you, none of it will stick. They'll end up realizing that they're the ones who need a bath. 17 It's better to suffer for doing good, if that's what God wants, than to be punished for doing bad.





What seed remains in them? @Christian Soldier ?

You say you have been regenerated, what has been regenerated and by whose witness?
Then you go on to say that you are Born Again day by day....?

Then never answer questions that are asked?..how is anyone supposed to understand you, when you never answer questions?




You have given me nothing.

I have been Born Of God’s seed..a Born Again does not sin because they have been Born of God.

When you can explain what it means to be Born Of “ GODS SEED?..then get back to me, in the meantime, you are in error, and you ignore that a Born Again does not sin because they have been Born Of God, you too ignore at your peril.

1 John 3​

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3 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.
14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?
18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
19 And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.
20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.
22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

Sorry I don't understand what you're trying to say as what you're saying doesn't make any sense as you consistantly contradict yourself.
On the one hand you claim that you don't sin, on the other hand you admit that you still sin, but you just don't repent or confess your sins. I really can't understand how you can hold to two radically different doctrines, you can't have it both ways.
You're either a sinner or you're not, make up your mind.\

I have asked you, why you ignore Gods Word, when it makes it clear that only liars deny they sin. And it makes it clear that your idea of repenting once is ridiculous and it doesn't make any sense. Why would Gods Word say that He is doing the work of salvation in His people and why would it say that He is faithful to forgive us our sin if we confess it to Him.

1 John [8] If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. [9] If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. [10] If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

You make God a liar, if you say you don't sin.

 

[Ritajanice]

Sorry I don't understand what you're trying to say as what you're saying doesn't make any sense as you consistantly contradict yourself.

Then show me my contradictions?

On the one hand you claim that you don't sin, on the other hand you admit that you still sin, but you just don't repent or confess your sins.

Reread my post, that’s your confused understanding of my post.i said I live in the old man of sin, why would I confess my sins, when they were forgiven ,at my spiritual rebirth, personally I don’t think you understand what it means to be Born Of The Spirit, that’s why you think you still sin, the Spiritual rebirth is Alive and Active ..the Spirit is Alive and Active in us..how would I know this, by whose witness?

I really can't understand how you can hold to two radically different doctrines, you can't have it both ways.
You're either a sinner or you're not, make up your mind.\

You said you are regenerated, then you say you don’t know when you were Born Again, then you say you are being Born Again day by day.

So, how do you know that you are regenerated , by whose witness?

I have asked you, why you ignore Gods Word, when it makes it clear that only liars deny they sin. And it makes it clear that your idea of repenting once is ridiculous and it doesn't make any sense. Why would Gods Word say that He is doing the work of salvation in His people and why would it say that He is faithful to forgive us our sin if we confess it to Him.

1 John [8] If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. [9] If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. [10] If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Nowhere in that scripture is it referring to a Born Again.

You make God a liar, if you say you don't sin.

You are the one who is calling God a liar.

A Born Again does not sin because the have been Born Of God His seed remains in them..which means what?

Still waiting for that answer to my question,

All you do, is post, confusion and answer no questions, do you actually read posts?

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9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Then show me my contradictions?

Reread my post, that’s your confused understanding of my post.i said I live in the old man of sin, why would I confess my sins, when they were forgiven ,at my spiritual rebirth, personally I don’t think you understand what it means to be Born Of The Spirit, that’s why you think you still sin, the Spiritual rebirth is Alive and Active ..the Spirit is Alive and Active in us..how would I know this, by whose witness?

You said you are regenerated, then you say you don’t know when you were Born Again, then you say you are being Born Again day by day.

So, how do you know that you are regenerated , by whose witness?

Nowhere in that scripture is it referring to a Born Again.

You are the one who is calling God a liar.

A Born Again does not sin because the have been Born Of God His seed remains in them..which means what?

Still waiting for that answer to my question,

All you do, is post, confusion and answer no questions, do you actually read posts?

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9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

You contradict yourself, because you claim to believe what God has said and then you reject what God has said in 1 John 8

You refuse to admit that you reject Gods Word, and you come up with silly comments like, "nowhere in scripture does it say that the Apostles were not born again". This exposes your false doctrine and shows you reject the truth of the gospel.

You're trying tom convince me that God contradicts Himself and tells lies, by pitting scripture against scripture, just because you don't understand what it is saying. Using one scripture to destroy another is is to abuse Gods Word and it shows you have no regard for the truth of the gospel, but you are motivated by self promotion, instead of embracing the truth of the gospel.

 

[Ritajanice]

You contradict yourself, because you claim to believe what God has said and then you reject what God has said in 1 John 8

You refuse to admit that you reject Gods Word, and you come up with silly comments like, "nowhere in scripture does it say that the Apostles were not born again". This exposes your false doctrine and shows you reject the truth of the gospel.

You're trying tom convince me that God contradicts Himself and tells lies, by pitting scripture against scripture, just because you don't understand what it is saying. Using one scripture to destroy another is is to abuse Gods Word and it shows you have no regard for the truth of the gospel, but you are motivated by self promotion, instead of embracing the truth of the gospel.

I’m trying to convince you of nothing.

Your understanding of spiritual matters are very limited...reason being you are unable to explain what being Born Again of imperishable seed means, still no answer.

Therefore your understanding of scripture , is yours and yours alone...you are unable to explain anything spiritual...

Without a supernatural spirit rebirth, you are limited to understanding Gods word, as it’s spoken in Spirit.the carnal man has no understanding of God’s word, it’s foolishness to them,
A Born Again does not sin because they have been Born Of God and his seed remains in them.

Born Again happens in an instance, not slowly as you claim, it comes by divine heart revelation. Something you lack, as it’s spiritually discerned.

You need to ask God for divine heart revelation something imo you lack..your language gives you away,Jesus said we will know them by their fruit.

He also said.

A Tree and Its Fruit
(Luke 6:43–45)

15Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20So then, by their fruit you will recognize them.

21Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’

23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’

 

[Ritajanice]

instead of embracing the truth of the gospel.

The Gospel doesn’t give birth to one’s spirit, it’s because of the good news, death and resurrection of Jesus, that we can become Born of The Spirit, that’s the Spirit Of Truth.

 

[Christian Soldier]

The Gospel doesn’t give birth to one’s spirit, it’s because of the good news, death and resurrection of Jesus, that we can become Born of The Spirit, that’s the Spirit Of Truth.

I don't know which gospel you believe, but it's most certainly not the one in the bible.

 

[Ritajanice]

I don't know which gospel you believe, but it's most certainly not the one in the bible.

I’m not saying you aren’t a Christian..but I 100% believe, you don’t understand what it means to be Born Again of imperishable seed ...I see no sign that you have been birthed.

 

[Christian Soldier]

I’m not saying you aren’t a Christian..but I 100% believe, you don’t understand what it means to be Born Again of imperishable seed ...I see no sign that you have been birthed.

Likewise, I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that you are a born again Christian. Everything you claim to be true is based on your ow private opinion. none of what you claim can be supported by Gods Word. You have rejected every bible verse I quoted, so it shows me that you're not interested in the truth.

 

[Ritajanice]

Likewise, I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that you are a born again Christian. Everything you claim to be true is based on your ow private opinion. none of what you claim can be supported by Gods Word. You have rejected every bible verse I quoted, so it shows me that you're not interested in the truth.

I’m in the truth.

Thankfully, and thank God, it’s not “ your truth”...

 

[Christian Soldier]

I’m in the truth.

Thankfully, and thank God, it’s not “ your truth”...

Again, you make no sense. I never claimed to be the truth, so to say "your truth" is nonsense....

 

[Ritajanice]

Again, you make no sense. I never claimed to be the truth, so to say "your truth" is nonsense....

Ephesians 4:13– Bible Passages on Maturity in Christ Ephesians 4:13 speaks of a journey towards unity and spiritual maturity in Christ. The verse encourages you to grow in faith and knowledge of Jesus, aiming for a fullness that reflects His character


How can we reflect his character, if we haven’t been Born Again?

◄ 2 Corinthians 3:18 ►

Audio Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit. New Living Translation So all of us who have had that veil removed can see and reflect the glory of the Lord. And the Lord—who is the Spirit—makes us more and more like him as we are changed into his glorious image. English Standard Version And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit. Berean Standard Bible And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into His image with intensifying glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit

 

[Christian Soldier]

Ephesians 4:13– Bible Passages on Maturity in Christ Ephesians 4:13 speaks of a journey towards unity and spiritual maturity in Christ. The verse encourages you to grow in faith and knowledge of Jesus, aiming for a fullness that reflects His character


How can we reflect his character, if we haven’t been Born Again?

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◄ 2 Corinthians 3:18 ►

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Audio Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit. New Living Translation So all of us who have had that veil removed can see and reflect the glory of the Lord. And the Lord—who is the Spirit—makes us more and more like him as we are changed into his glorious image. English Standard Version And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit. Berean Standard Bible And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into His image with intensifying glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit

I have not been transformed into the image of Christ. I have been born again, and I am being regenerated, sanctified and I'm being transformed. But none of these have been completed in me yet. That happens in the next life, until then I will sin everyday because I have no other choice.

If you don't agree, then God said that people like you a liars and there is no truth in you.

 

[Runningman]

I have not been transformed into the image of Christ. I have been born again, and I am being regenerated, sanctified and I'm being transformed. But none of these have been completed in me yet. That happens in the next life, until then I will sin everyday because I have no other choice.

If you don't agree, then God said that people like you a liars and there is no truth in you.

I partially don't agree with this. You aren't sinning every moment, every second, are you? I hope not! I think most people prove they can stop sinning right here, right now, even for just a few hours while they sleep. People sin because their desires are evil. This isn't a question aimed at you, but everyone. Have we truly repented?

 

[Ritajanice]

We are not being regenerated and nowhere in Gods word does it say that we are day by day being regenerated...if we are regenerated, then we are Born Again..God does not say we are Born Again day by day either..that is man’s teaching of error.

God’s seed remains in us?

A Born Again does not sin because they have been Born Of God they can’t go on sinning because his seed remains in them?

Only God can bring us to true repentance / Godly sorrow.

Plus the Spirit cannot indwell a spirit of sin, it must be cleansed from all sin, when our sins have been forgiven by God and when he decides to give birth to our spirit, supernaturally and by divine heart revelation.

Some have no understanding of being Born Of God and that his seed remains in us...that’s why they still believe that they sin.

Becoming Born Of God and that his seed remains in us can only come by divine,heart,revelation.

As of yet, @Christian Soldier hasn’t been able to explain what it means...therefore is in error when he calls me a liar.....unfortunately the truth isn’t in him.

 

[Ritajanice]

I have not been transformed into the image of Christ. I have been born again, and I am being regenerated, sanctified and I'm being transformed. But none of these have been completed in me yet. That happens in the next life,

We are being transformed daily into Jesus image.Amen.

Please show using scripture that you are being regenerated daily?

Regenerated means the same thing as being Born Again, so I take it that you aren’t Born Again, that your spirit hasn’t been regenerated...so how do you know that you are elect and a saint according to you?

Also that we become Born Again in the next life? Where does it say that in Gods word?

Commentary.

Regeneration is a radical change. Just as our physical birth resulted in a new individual entering the earthly realm, our spiritual birth results in a new person entering the heavenly realm (Ephesians 2:6). After regeneration, we begin to see and hear and seek after divine things; we begin to live a life of faith and holiness. Now Christ is formed in the hearts; now we are partakers of the divine nature, having been made new creatures (2 Corinthians 5:17). God, not man, is the source of this transformation (Ephesians 2:1, 8). God’s great love and free gift, His rich grace and abundant mercy, are the cause of the rebirth. The mighty power of God—the power that raised Christ from the dead—is displayed in the regeneration and conversion of sinners (Ephesians 1:19–20).

Regeneration is necessary. Sinful human flesh cannot stand in God’s presence. In His conversation with Nicodemus, Jesus said twice that a man must be born again in order to see the kingdom of God (John 3:3, 7). Regeneration is not optional, for “flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit” (John 3:6). Physical birth fits us for earth; spiritual rebirth fits us for heaven. See Ephesians 2:1; 1 Peter 1:23; John 1:13; 1 John 3:9; 4:7; 5:1, 4, 18. Regeneration is part of what God does for us at the moment of salvation, along with sealing (Ephesians 1:14), adoption (Galatians 4:5), reconciliation (2 Corinthians 5:18–20), etc. Regeneration is God’s making a person spiritually alive, as a result of faith in Jesus Christ. Prior to salvation we were not God’s children (John 1:12–13); rather, we were children of wrath (Ephesians 2:3; Romans 5:18–20). Before salvation, we were degenerate; after salvation we are regenerated. The result of regeneration is peace with God (Romans 5:1), new life (Titus 3:5; 2 Corinthians 5:17), and eternal sonship (John 1:12–13; Galatians 3:26). Regeneration begins the process of sanctification wherein we become the people God intends us to be (Romans 8:28–30).

The only means of regeneration is by faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross. No amount of good works or keeping of the Law can regenerate the heart. “By works of the law no human being will be justified in [God’s] sight” (Romans 3:20). Only Christ offers a cure for the total depravity of the human heart. We don’t need renovation or reformation or reorganization; we need rebirth.

 

[Christian Soldier]

I partially don't agree with this. You aren't sinning every moment, every second, are you? I hope not! I think most people prove they can stop sinning right here, right now, even for just a few hours while they sleep. People sin because their desires are evil. This isn't a question aimed at you, but everyone. Have we truly repented?

That's all wishful thinking because you don't even know what sin is and what it isn't. I say this because I know you're a sinner and a sinner doesn't know all of his sins but God knows every one of them. You sin because you have a sin nature, so every thought of yours is sinful because none of your thoughts are pure, even your good thoughts are thoughts are sinful because you're motive for thinking them is tainted with your own righteousness. Your trying to please God by doing "good works" but you heart is divided,, so your good thoughts and works are not pure so they are sin.

We are not even aware of our sin and we don't know that we sin continuously, why do you think we are commanded to pray always and to always repent and confess our sin. This is an ongoing and continual life long deal where were in constant prayer and constant repentance.

It is heresy to suggest that you repent once and then your receive the Holy Spirit and then you live a pure sinless life. That is what Satan wants you to believe, it is pure demonic doctrine, that luls it's victims into a false sense of security. The sad truth is, they will hear Jesus say to them, "depart from me, for I never knew you". most Christians are going to spend eternity in hell, it's just a sad fact which the bible confirms.

 

[Christian Soldier]

We are being transformed daily into Jesus image.Amen.

Please show using scripture that you are being regenerated daily?

Regenerated means the same thing as being Born Again, so I take it that you aren’t Born Again, that your spirit hasn’t been regenerated...so how do you know that you are elect and a saint according to you?

Also that we become Born Again in the next life? Where does it say that in Gods word?

Commentary.

Regeneration is a radical change. Just as our physical birth resulted in a new individual entering the earthly realm, our spiritual birth results in a new person entering the heavenly realm (Ephesians 2:6). After regeneration, we begin to see and hear and seek after divine things; we begin to live a life of faith and holiness. Now Christ is formed in the hearts; now we are partakers of the divine nature, having been made new creatures (2 Corinthians 5:17). God, not man, is the source of this transformation (Ephesians 2:1, 8). God’s great love and free gift, His rich grace and abundant mercy, are the cause of the rebirth. The mighty power of God—the power that raised Christ from the dead—is displayed in the regeneration and conversion of sinners (Ephesians 1:19–20).

Regeneration is necessary. Sinful human flesh cannot stand in God’s presence. In His conversation with Nicodemus, Jesus said twice that a man must be born again in order to see the kingdom of God (John 3:3, 7). Regeneration is not optional, for “flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit” (John 3:6). Physical birth fits us for earth; spiritual rebirth fits us for heaven. See Ephesians 2:1; 1 Peter 1:23; John 1:13; 1 John 3:9; 4:7; 5:1, 4, 18. Regeneration is part of what God does for us at the moment of salvation, along with sealing (Ephesians 1:14), adoption (Galatians 4:5), reconciliation (2 Corinthians 5:18–20), etc. Regeneration is God’s making a person spiritually alive, as a result of faith in Jesus Christ. Prior to salvation we were not God’s children (John 1:12–13); rather, we were children of wrath (Ephesians 2:3; Romans 5:18–20). Before salvation, we were degenerate; after salvation we are regenerated. The result of regeneration is peace with God (Romans 5:1), new life (Titus 3:5; 2 Corinthians 5:17), and eternal sonship (John 1:12–13; Galatians 3:26). Regeneration begins the process of sanctification wherein we become the people God intends us to be (Romans 8:28–30).

The only means of regeneration is by faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross. No amount of good works or keeping of the Law can regenerate the heart. “By works of the law no human being will be justified in [God’s] sight” (Romans 3:20). Only Christ offers a cure for the total depravity of the human heart. We don’t need renovation or reformation or reorganization; we need rebirth.

Sorry I don't have the time or patience to teach stubborn students the basic elementary bible doctrines. I would suggest you find yourself a beginners bible class and learn the basics. Until then, you really don't have anything meaningful to contribute to the discussion.