The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

[Hepzibah]

Good post on this from Lizbeth on epis thread:

"Here I will just lay this out for your or anyone's consideration - don't mean to push it on anyone:

Gen 22:15-17

And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time, (don’t think the wording is accidental)

And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:

Promised blessing of fruitfulness and possessing the land of promise. After slaying our “Isaac”…burying our corn of wheat to die in order that it produce a crop. Goes against the grain (pun intended). It is in a sense a way of offering back to God what He has given us upon the altar. Like David when he poured out the drink…..seems like a waste but isn’t….it is what will bring an increase. A pruning of our fruitful branch to make it more fruitful, which Jesus said He would do.

Lev 13:58

And the garment, either warp, or woof, or whatsoever thing of skin it be, which thou shalt wash, if the plague be departed from them, then it shall be washed the second time, and shall be clean.

Think that speaks for itself and doesn’t need explanation. Again I have to think this was written for a reason, not accidental. God doesn’t do things by accident.

Joshua 5:2

At that time the LORD said unto Joshua, Make thee sharp knives, and circumcise again the children of Israel the second time.

It would be so hard for me to believe this wording is accidental. Especially since we know these were not the same literal individuals who had already been circumcised when they left Egypt, but who ended up “dying” in the wilderness.

If His first coming to us is likened in John’s gospel to the giving of the Holy Spirit, then it isn’t a stretch to liken His second coming as being in like manner (at least in one sense of what it means).

Heb 9:28

So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

(And again this agrees exactly with the gushing forth of the water two times from the Rock in the wilderness, first time struck/crucified…second time not needing to be struck/crucified)."

 

[marks]

Gen 22:15-17

And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time, (don’t think the wording is accidental)

And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:

Promised blessing of fruitfulness and possessing the land of promise. After slaying our “Isaac”…burying our corn of wheat to die in order that it produce a crop. Goes against the grain (pun intended). It is in a sense a way of offering back to God what He has given us upon the altar. Like David when he poured out the drink…..seems like a waste but isn’t….it is what will bring an increase. A pruning of our fruitful branch to make it more fruitful, which Jesus said He would do.

Genesis 22:11-17 LITV
11) And the Angel of Jehovah called to him from the heavens and said, Abraham! Abraham! And he said, Behold me.
12) And He said, Do not lay your hand on the boy, nor do anything to him. For now I know that you are a God-fearer, and you have not withheld your son, your only one, from Me.
13) And Abraham lifted up his eyes and looked. And behold! A ram behind him was entangled in a thicket by its horns. And Abraham went and took the ram and offered it for a burnt offering instead of his son.
14) And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovah Will See; so that it is said until this day, In the mount of Jehovah it will be seen.
15) And the Angel of Jehovah called to Abraham out of the heavens a second time.
16) And He said, I have sworn by Myself, declares Jehovah, that on account of this thing you have done, and have not withheld your son, your only son,
17) that blessing I will bless you, and multiplying I will multiply your seed as the stars of the heavens, and as the sand which is on the shore of the sea. And your Seed shall possess the gate of His enemies.

First time and second time that God spoke to Abraham here are after Abraham's attempt to kill Isaac.

First God said, stop, don't kill Him. Second God said I'll give you these blessings . . . the blessings I have already promised you long before Isaac was even born, promises you believed in that day, when you believed, and I justified you . . .

(And again this agrees exactly with the gushing forth of the water two times from the Rock in the wilderness, first time struck/crucified…second time not needing to be struck/crucified)."

Maybe striking the rock the second time, like Moses did, is when we think we don't "have it" yet? We still have to do something? When we should just be speaking to the rock? I don't know. I know that when the Bible gives allegories, it tells you what they mean, so we're not playing these guessing games, and each comes to their own answer.

Much love!

 

[Taken]

Do you know who they are?

They “IN” Christ are ONLY assuredly known by the Lord God and the individual himself…
Since it is an exclusive agreed between those two, to have a one on one relationship.

Others can “speculate” who is IN Christ…by “precepts” ie behaviors of an other.

What is required to be in Christ?

Uncohersed Confession of remorse for having NOT believed and of ones true heartful belief in the Lord God, and willingness for that one to give his body unto death for his Love of the Lord God.

What is required to remain in Christ?

Gods response to the mans confession and thus God Baptizing the man with Gods Holy Spirit of Truth…effecting that man to receive Gods Seed…thus birthing that man a new reborn spirit.

Will all those who believe in OSAS be saved?
F2F

Believing in OSAS is not the criteria for receiving salvation.
ONCE a man IS baptized with the Holy Spirit…that man IS right then…Saved once and forever.

Because a mans bodily DEATH must occur BEFORE a mans soul can be “saved” and his spirit “born again”…BEFORE Jesus came with a NEW TESTAMENT….all men who physically died BELIEVING…then received their saved soul and born again spirit….

Since Jesus’ ministry…believing men can since that day to the present…receive a saved soul and born again spirit….by what is called a “living sacrifice”…Pledging, Vowing their body unto the Lord God, at the moment of its physical death.

So …some receive their “salvation” now….
Called…IN Christ.
Some who die believing will receive their “salvation” when their body physically dies…
Called…IN Jesus.

NO one will receive Salvation…and then Lose their Salvation.

One who Loses “their” Salvation…Loses it by NEVER accepting it…before physical death.

Salvation is a GIFT…bought and paid for for Every man….don’t accept and take the gift…well…uh…you don’t possess / have the gift.



Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Hepzibah]

This is the reason why I asked this. Jesus, and many others, prophesied His physical return to the earth. Some people take these second coming passages as allegories for their lives. Yes, there are passages like you've pointed to, that He will come to us, live with us.

I think we do well to regard each in it's proper context. If we allegorized something not intended to be allegorized, well, I think this is how we come to people having 1000's of interpretations.

I was not denying that He will physically return. Both. The apostles could not be wrong in thinking that it was going to be in their lifetime (physically).

We can look at the Laodicean passage. I'm certain you will say these are reborn who will be spat out, I do not think so, from the passage itself, not just because I believe in forever salvation.

I don't see how it could be used by the Lord to warn believers, if they were not believers. What would be the point? It is taking the Jesus knocking at the door to match with personal theology. And why would anyone profess to be a believer if they were not and risk their lives?

Other passages, I'll ask you to post the passage. I'd be willing to examine each one with you. I believe the Bible is fully true. God has redeemed some, and some others have rejected Him outright, and some others still have hidden among the redeemed. If you read Paul's letters with this in mind it's all clear, I think.

Throughout the OT we are told of God's anger towards His people:

1 Kings 11:9–10; 2 Kings 17:18

In the new, we see that God is angry with all who are not in Christ and saved, because He hates sin. Yet He is patient because His anger it not like ours. They who are in the devils kingdom, are under the curse and it says that 'Judgement begins at the house of the Lord'.

And I'll continue to say that the early church commentaries were as all over the maps as modern ones, and they've added much to what the Apostles taught. I have no issues remaining with the Apostolic teaching itself.

I use them for inspiration apart from doctrinal confirmation. It really is not easy to get deeply into them. One has to understand their mindset, and avoid those after say, 150 years. To understand their spirituality takes being in the same mindset however.

You have great trust in your own understanding Mark.

Is that so? Is this your opinion? Which you don't mind sharing with others?

I think you are mistaken about me, that's my opinion. That's what we have, our opinions based on our perceptions, each of which may be flawed. OK.

I am not picking you out here - all Protestants do the same and that is why there are 35,000 or more denominations.

God gave His word for a reason, and He gave us the Spirit so we can understand. We have our own thoughts about the things we've experienced, and what we think it all meant. We have all the words of man written from the so-called "fathers" to the latest from the church down the street. And all of this is subjective and additional to the Bible, even the earliest commentaries.

So I stay with the Bible as God's revelation to man from outside of us.

Everyone who has no other authority but there own understanding (of course with the Spirit) says this.

There is much He's told me in my heart, and it always always is in harmony with the Bible, and basically in it's straightforward reading. If you thing this leads to a lack of spiritual depth, I don't think I'm going to agree with that one, no, not at all! What it leads to is a certainty as all levels agree, giving the same unified message.

Well we are not going to agree on this as we have different mindsets. It really brings it home to me how I could no longer be a Protestant.

I've been recreated. My flesh is corrupted and remains so. But I am overcoming my flesh, because I'm a new creation.

Alright, I don't really like too much talking about myself, last week it triggered me, time to get back to the Bible.

Sorry to hear that Mark. Hope you are okay now.

If your believing is in what is true then it will align with the explanations in Scripture.

Absolutely agree. I never accept anything that I cannot find in the scripture. But then, when I was a Calvinist, I found their doctrines all over the place.

Much love!

 

[Hepzibah]

Genesis 22:11-17 LITV
11) And the Angel of Jehovah called to him from the heavens and said, Abraham! Abraham! And he said, Behold me.
12) And He said, Do not lay your hand on the boy, nor do anything to him. For now I know that you are a God-fearer, and you have not withheld your son, your only one, from Me.
13) And Abraham lifted up his eyes and looked. And behold! A ram behind him was entangled in a thicket by its horns. And Abraham went and took the ram and offered it for a burnt offering instead of his son.
14) And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovah Will See; so that it is said until this day, In the mount of Jehovah it will be seen.
15) And the Angel of Jehovah called to Abraham out of the heavens a second time.
16) And He said, I have sworn by Myself, declares Jehovah, that on account of this thing you have done, and have not withheld your son, your only son,
17) that blessing I will bless you, and multiplying I will multiply your seed as the stars of the heavens, and as the sand which is on the shore of the sea. And your Seed shall possess the gate of His enemies.

First time and second time that God spoke to Abraham here are after Abraham's attempt to kill Isaac.

First God said, stop, don't kill Him. Second God said I'll give you these blessings . . . the blessings I have already promised you long before Isaac was even born, promises you believed in that day, when you believed, and I justified you . . .


Maybe striking the rock the second time, like Moses did, is when we think we don't "have it" yet? We still have to do something? When we should just be speaking to the rock? I don't know. I know that when the Bible gives allegories, it tells you what they mean, so we're not playing these guessing games, and each comes to their own answer.

Much love!

I think the point was that God spoke a second time, not on their actions specifically.

 

[Hepzibah]

If you do not have believe, explanations will never work.

If your believing is in what is true then it will align with the explanations in Scripture.

Sorry belief not believe.

What is meant, I believe, is that it is about the heart. The heart that is foolish above all things. If the heart is not right with God, then any amount of explanations will not work. And you will interpret accordingly.

 

[marks]

I think the point was that God spoke a second time, not on their actions specifically.

I understand the connection being made, and I understand how some people interpret the Bible in ways like this. For me it lacks a certain specificity for doctrine formation.

Much love!

 

[Lizbeth]

I understand the connection being made, and I understand how some people interpret the Bible in ways like this. For me it lacks a certain specificity for doctrine formation.

Much love!

I understand that every time the same word or term is used doesn't necessarily mean they are all connected...agree with that! What got my attention here was the circumstance.....Abraham's situation there mirrors what we are to do to receive or walk in the same blessing he was blessed with. (though ours is on a spiritual level)

 

[Lizbeth]

Maybe striking the rock the second time, like Moses did, is when we think we don't "have it" yet? We still have to do something? When we should just be speaking to the rock? I don't know. I know that when the Bible gives allegories, it tells you what they mean, so we're not playing these guessing games, and each comes to their own answer.

It's to be by faith, not by might or self-effort or formula. By my Spirit says the Lord.

Also I believe it looks ahead to the church being persecuted by the Jews under the Law (after Jesus was crucified and gone to heaven). Moses in one way was all about the Law.....can't enter the promised land (spiritual sense - gospel) and remain under the Law at the same time. Those under the Law persecuted those who were children of the promise. Often the Lord is saying more than one thing or speaking on more than one level. Like the second coming of Christ being applied on an individual level would not have to nullify that it can be speaking of an historical application as well.

 

[Lizbeth]

Good post on this from Lizbeth on epis thread:

"Here I will just lay this out for your or anyone's consideration - don't mean to push it on anyone:

Gen 22:15-17

And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time, (don’t think the wording is accidental)

And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:

Promised blessing of fruitfulness and possessing the land of promise. After slaying our “Isaac”…burying our corn of wheat to die in order that it produce a crop. Goes against the grain (pun intended). It is in a sense a way of offering back to God what He has given us upon the altar. Like David when he poured out the drink…..seems like a waste but isn’t….it is what will bring an increase. A pruning of our fruitful branch to make it more fruitful, which Jesus said He would do.

Lev 13:58

And the garment, either warp, or woof, or whatsoever thing of skin it be, which thou shalt wash, if the plague be departed from them, then it shall be washed the second time, and shall be clean.

Think that speaks for itself and doesn’t need explanation. Again I have to think this was written for a reason, not accidental. God doesn’t do things by accident.

Joshua 5:2

At that time the LORD said unto Joshua, Make thee sharp knives, and circumcise again the children of Israel the second time.

It would be so hard for me to believe this wording is accidental. Especially since we know these were not the same literal individuals who had already been circumcised when they left Egypt, but who ended up “dying” in the wilderness.

If His first coming to us is likened in John’s gospel to the giving of the Holy Spirit, then it isn’t a stretch to liken His second coming as being in like manner (at least in one sense of what it means).

Heb 9:28

So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

(And again this agrees exactly with the gushing forth of the water two times from the Rock in the wilderness, first time struck/crucified…second time not needing to be struck/crucified)."

Funny I thought of posting it here.....I just have a hunch some are being too dogmatic about this subject on the other thread, not to mention other problems. Not easy trying to sort out the chaff from the wheat. One thing I am sure about is that we need to understand what God is saying about this whole subject in spirit, not with the carnal mind in a linear, two dimensional way. Paul was not being dogmatic or threatening in the way that he encourages us in Romans to walk in the spirit. And though I would not limit the potential of what God can do in a life, I am not sure this is something "required" of us in a 365/24/7 kind of way or else. But it shows how we can be walking in victory and in the fullness of what God has given us, and when we are in the Spirit that is what we are doing. Paul doesn't seem to be beating people up with a stick about this....but is showing the way. Thinking out loud here, I need more light to be sure whether I'm understanding properly or not.

 

[marks]

It's to be by faith, not by might or self-effort or formula. By my Spirit says the Lord.

Also I believe it looks ahead to the church being persecuted by the Jews under the Law (after Jesus was crucified and gone to heaven). Moses in one way was all about the Law.....can't enter the promised land and remain under the Law at the same time. Those under the Law persecuted those who were children of the promise. Often the Lord is saying more than one thing or speaking on more than one level. Like the second coming of Christ being applied on an individual level would not have to nullify that it can be speaking of an historical application as well.

As we look at this, Joshua had to be the one to lead them into the promised land. The Law came through Moses, grace and truth through Jesus Christ . . . Joshua. Moses struck the rock because he was angry, the Law only brings wrath.

"We have only known the baptism of John, of repentance"

They were all baptized into Moses, and in the sea, to the giving of the Law.

Joshua brought them across the Jordan at flood, the waters stood in a heap as they crossed, being baptized, as it were, into Joshua, and into the promised land.

But consider that they could only possess the promised land by remaining under the Law, and in obedience to it. The more we try to form doctrines from extending these types beyond what we're told, the more we have to pick which details we will be using.

I find many NT truths illustrated in OT narratives, but we have to be careful that we are using the plain parts to interpret the less than plain parts.

Just some of my thoughts.

:-)

Much love!

 

[Johann]

As we look at this, Joshua had to be the one to lead them into the promised land. The Law came through Moses, grace and truth through Jesus Christ . . . Joshua. Moses struck the rock because he was angry, the Law only brings wrath.

"We have only known the baptism of John, of repentance"

They were all baptized into Moses, and in the sea, to the giving of the Law.

Joshua brought them across the Jordan at flood, the waters stood in a heap as they crossed, being baptized, as it were, into Joshua, and into the promised land.

But consider that they could only possess the promised land by remaining under the Law, and in obedience to it. The more we try to form doctrines from extending these types beyond what we're told, the more we have to pick which details we will be using.

I find many NT truths illustrated in OT narratives, but we have to be careful that we are using the plain parts to interpret the less than plain parts.

Just some of my thoughts.

:-)

Much love!

Praise our Lord Jesus Christ for blessing you with the guidance of anointed pastors throughout your life and for your own diligent study of the Scriptures!

 

[marks]

I understand that every time the same word or term is used doesn't necessarily mean they are all connected...agree with that! What got my attention here was the circumstance.....Abraham's situation there mirrors what we are to do to receive or walk in the same blessing he was blessed with. (though ours is on a spiritual level)

I understand. Abraham gave over Isaac and his hopes for the future, but still with hope, knowing God would raise Isaac from the dead. Was Abraham's faith and walk somehow lacking before God spoke to him a second time? Considering he was about to offer his only son, whom he loved?

Abraham brought his cherished son to offer to God, showing the proof of Abraham's faith, that God would raise him again from the dead. And rather than raise him after Abraham endured the trauma of killing him, God raised him in a figure. The first time God spoke was to stop him from killing Isaac, but He doesn't stop us from dying with Christ on the cross.

The second time God spoke was to reiterate the promises already given to Abraham when he had believed, and God justified Him. God wasn't adding something Abraham didn't already have, or enabling Abraham to be more than he had been.

There are lots of ways we can look at these histories, depending on what parts we focus on, which is why I am very careful about using them as foundations for doctrines. And the more so as I see these various doctrines plainly taught in many places. So I look for the illustrations in these histories which align with the teaching passages, and there I find much harmony.

It's like parables, the more that people drill into the details, the more individualized their interpretations tend to be.

Much love!

 

[marks]

Like the second coming of Christ being applied on an individual level would not have to nullify that it can be speaking of an historical application as well.

It shows a very different kind of salvation to me.

Jesus was physically in the world, and He left, and promised to return, His second coming.

When we receive Jesus, He comes to live in our hearts, does He leave again? Hebrews says, "I will never leave you nor forsake you", in a generalized promise. That's true, right?

What then is His "second spiritual coming"? Does He come to us more than before?

Aren't we trying to answer for ourselves, that question we've been mentioning, Why are older Christians still not mature? And the Theosis answer, the second blessing answer, is, they cannot be more mature until they receive that something extra. And they haven't, so they can't.

Jesus was with the disciples, and He went away . . . into death . . . and returned to them again. I will come to you, and you will see me, but not the others . . . But where in this is the support for Theosis? Does Jesus come to us and then die? That makes no sense, and I know that's not what you are saying, but I'm hoping you will see my objection here.

Much love!

 

[Lizbeth]

As we look at this, Joshua had to be the one to lead them into the promised land. The Law came through Moses, grace and truth through Jesus Christ . . . Joshua. Moses struck the rock because he was angry, the Law only brings wrath.

"We have only known the baptism of John, of repentance"

They were all baptized into Moses, and in the sea, to the giving of the Law.

Joshua brought them across the Jordan at flood, the waters stood in a heap as they crossed, being baptized, as it were, into Joshua, and into the promised land.

But consider that they could only possess the promised land by remaining under the Law, and in obedience to it. The more we try to form doctrines from extending these types beyond what we're told, the more we have to pick which details we will be using.

I find many NT truths illustrated in OT narratives, but we have to be careful that we are using the plain parts to interpret the less than plain parts.

Just some of my thoughts.

:-)

Much love!

By "entering the Promised land" I meant in the sense of the gospel, entering the spiritual land of promise, ie, kingdom of God (edited my post on brackets to try and clarify). Can't be in the gospel and under the Law at the same time and those who remained under the Law persecuted those under the gospel. Yes agree that allegories and types are not to be taken any further than God intends them as hints or clues or pictures of truth. We need the Holy Spirit to help us see what He is showing us, and He may use different scripture to convey the same truth to different people.

 

[Lizbeth]

It shows a very different kind of salvation to me.

Jesus was physically in the world, and He left, and promised to return, His second coming.

When we receive Jesus, He comes to live in our hearts, does He leave again? Hebrews says, "I will never leave you nor forsake you", in a generalized promise. That's true, right?

What then is His "second spiritual coming"? Does He come to us more than before?

Aren't we trying to answer for ourselves, that question we've been mentioning, Why are older Christians still not mature? And the Theosis answer, the second blessing answer, is, they cannot be more mature until they receive that something extra. And they haven't, so they can't.

Jesus was with the disciples, and He went away . . . into death . . . and returned to them again. I will come to you, and you will see me, but not the others . . . But where in this is the support for Theosis? Does Jesus come to us and then die? That makes no sense, and I know that's not what you are saying, but I'm hoping you will see my objection here.

Much love!

Think it's about Him coming in a manner of speaking to take us up into Himself as it were...."rapture". And myself I believe it is a manifesting in fullness of what He has already given us. And He has given a different measure to different people. As per the parable of the talents. Notice each one gained or increased in the exact amount (measure) that they had been given. "Stars" differ in their glory.....just like how we see in life generally there are greater and lesser in the kingdom of God. Everyone has their own calling.

 

[Johann]

Think it's about Him coming in a manner of speaking to take us up into Himself as it were...."rapture". And myself I believe it is a manifesting in fullness of what He has already given us. And He has given a different measure to different people. As per the parable of the talents. Notice each one gained or increased in the exact amount (measure) that they had been given. "Stars" differ in their glory.....just like how we see in life generally there are greater and lesser in the kingdom of God. Everyone has their own calling.

Matthew 24:30-31 (NKJV):

"Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."
Matthew 24:36-44 (NKJV):

"But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be... Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect."
Acts 1:11 (NKJV):

"Who also said, 'Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.'"
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 (NKJV):

"For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord."
Revelation 1:7 (NKJV):

"Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen."
Revelation 19:11-16 (NKJV):

"Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war... And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS."
2 Peter 3:10 (NKJV):

"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up."
Mark 13:26-27 (NKJV):

"Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. And then He will send His angels, and gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest part of earth to the farthest part of heaven."
John 14:3 (NKJV):

"And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also."
1 Corinthians 15:52 (NKJV):

"In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."
These verses collectively provide a clear scriptural foundation for the doctrine of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

 

[Johann]

Matthew 24:30-31 (NKJV):

"Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."
Matthew 24:36-44 (NKJV):

"But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be... Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect."
Acts 1:11 (NKJV):

"Who also said, 'Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.'"
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 (NKJV):

"For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord."
Revelation 1:7 (NKJV):

"Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen."
Revelation 19:11-16 (NKJV):

"Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war... And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS."
2 Peter 3:10 (NKJV):

"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up."
Mark 13:26-27 (NKJV):

"Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. And then He will send His angels, and gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest part of earth to the farthest part of heaven."
John 14:3 (NKJV):

"And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also."
1 Corinthians 15:52 (NKJV):

"In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."
These verses collectively provide a clear scriptural foundation for the doctrine of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

Edit: Sorry-poor reading comprehension.

 

[amigo de christo]

I think the point was that God spoke a second time, not on their actions specifically.

GODTESTS . HE will test and try all who are his .
the flesh tempts as do satan , it will try and seduce .
Abraham was tested . abraham passed the test .

 

[amigo de christo]

GODTESTS . HE will test and try all who are his .
the flesh tempts as do satan , it will try and seduce .
Abraham was tested . abraham passed the test .