The slander against the faithful apostle Paul

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Law of Christ
(Galatians 6:2, 1 Corinthians 9:21, James 2:12, James 1:25, Romans 8:2)

In the New Testament, many mentions of “the law” is actually referring to Law of Christ (aka the Law of Liberty) and is not talking about the old testament law. Christians are NOT called to keep or live under the old testament law, but we ARE called to live under the Law of Christ.

Ultimately this means we are called to abide In Christ which is living after the Spirit and not after the flesh, or to be spiritually minded and not carnally minded (see Romans 8). As we see in Romans 8, to be spiritually minded is life and peace but to be carnally minded is death which is separation from the Lord.

Galatians 6:2
Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

1 Corinthians 9:21
To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.

James 2:12
So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

James 1:25
But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
*Free as in no longer being a slave to sin, as in stop doing sinful things!

2 Peter 1:4-10
Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:

1 Thessalonians 4:3-8
For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour; Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God: That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified. For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness. He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit. (*Notice what Paul said about his own body in 1 Corinthians 9:27)

Colossians 3:6-10
For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them. But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: Those that do not put on the New Man and quit walking after the flesh, the wrath of God comes upon them for their disobedience because God is NOT mocked, if we sow to the flesh we shall of the flesh reap corruption (Gal 6:7,8)

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; Things end very badly for those that do not obey the gospel.

Romans 11:19-25
Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Law of Christ
The phrase "the law of Christ" appears only in Galatians 6:2, although it is implied by the wording of 1 Corinthians 9:21 as well. In both places, its precise meaning is difficult to fix. In Galatians, Paul argues vigorously that the law given at Sinai makes no claim on those who believe in Christ, whether Gentile or Jew ( 2:15-21 ; Galatians 3:10-14 Galatians 3:23-26 ; 4:4-5 ; 4:21-5:6).

He then appeals to the Galatians to engage in ethical behavior by walking in the Spirit ( 5:16 Galatians 16 ), being lead by the Spirit ( 5:18 ), and fulfilling "the law of Christ" (ho nomos tou Christou) through bearing one another's burdens ( 6:2 ). In 1 Corinthians 9 Paul demonstrates how Christians should, out of love for the weaker brother or sister, refrain from demanding their rights.

By way of illustration Paul says in verses 19-23 that he adopts certain Jewish customs when among Jews, although he is not under the Jewish law, and that he adopts some Gentile customs when among Gentiles, although he is not without the law of God but rather "in the law of Christ" (ennomos Christou).

It seems fairly clear from these two texts that Paul uses the phrase to mean something other than the law given to Israel at Sinai and considered by most Jews to be their special possession.

Help is found in the prophets. In Isaiah 42:1-4 we read that God's chosen servant will one day establish justice throughout the earth and that "the coastlands will wait expectantly for His law" (NASB). If we take this passage to refer to the Messiah, then we could paraphrase it by saying that the Christ, when he comes, will teach God's law to the Gentiles ("the coastlands"). Jeremiah 31:31-34 similarly predicts the coming of a time in which disobedient Israel will receive a new covenant, consisting of a law written on the heart and therefore obeyed (cf. Ezek 36:26-27 ).

Jesus' teaching, although standing in continuity with the law given at Sinai, nevertheless sovereignly fashions a new law. In some instances Jesus sharpens commandments ( Matt 5:17-48 ) and in others considers them obsolete ( Mark 7:17-19 ). On one occasion, having been asked to identify the greatest commandment, Jesus concurs with the Jewish wisdom of his time ( Mark 12:32-33 ) that the greatest commandments are to love God supremely and to love one's neighbor as oneself ( Mark 12:28-31 ). He breaks with tradition, however, by defining the term "neighbor" to mean even the despised Samaritan ( Luke 10:29-37 ).

Paul believed that the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ marked the beginning point of God's new covenant ( 2 Cor 3:1-18 ; Gal 4:21-31 ; cf. Rom 8:2 ). Like Isaiah, he believed that this covenant included the Gentiles ( Gal 3:7-20 ), and like Jeremiah he believed that it offered Israel a remedy for the curse that the old Sinaitic covenant pronounced on Israel's disobedience ( Gal 3:10-13 ).

In light of this, Paul understood the teaching of Christ as a new law. If so, then the correspondence between the ethical teaching of Jesus and Paul on many points (e.g., 1 Cor 7:10-11 / Mark 10:2-9 ; 1 Cor 9:14 / Luke 10:7 ; Rom 14:1-23 / Mark 7:18-19 ) is a matter of Paul's intention rather than happy accident. Paul's own admonition to fulfill the law of Christ by bearing one another's burdens provides both a pithy restatement of Jesus' summary of the law and an indication that Jesus' teaching fulfills prophetic expectations.

Galatians 5:4
Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
 

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You are picking and choosing.
No I am not

That letter was written to the Corinth church

It is a known fact that women were looked down on in that city. It is a known fact that if a woman tried to speak. it would offend many a men

It is a known fact it would hinder the spread of the gospel if they were not asked to be silent.

It is a known fact we do not have this issue in our churches today (well like I said, in most. sadly we still have churches that think women should be second class citizens)

part of studying the bible is to get historical context.
 

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Rather odd that peter even implies this .
And paul didnt just think it up .
Try reading , after writing what he was writing to the church about women
HE said IF ANY man think himself to be a prophet or spiritual
LET HIM KNOW these are the commandments of GOD . YOU saying paul was lying about that .
Sorry you pick and choose what you want to beleive . that is a problem too .
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If the Bible says it, we believe it. And this is coming from someone of the female species. sml
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amigo de christo

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Peter believed the same thing. I think they were both wrong.
of course you do , that is known as the gospel according to BOB , or the book of BOB .
believe me when i say You aint alone either
many men have their own books which contain some truths and omit other truths .
PS while books like that can be best sellers and even give the person a false sense of peace
Believe me it was PNC , pick n choose , and on that train ride it dont end well .
 
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So you admit that you believe God did not lead biblical writers to write what they wrote?

Those engaging in the view point are deceived and will be getting more and more deceived as they go...






So, you have now rejected ALL of Paul's writings?






So, you have now rejected ALL of Peter's writings?





There certainly is when one is thinking the thoughts the devil is telling
them to think.... such as God's Word is not really God's Word.





What other portions of scripture did God decide is not for us today?

Murdering innocent little babies (abortion), or teaching children to be perverts (LGBBQ)

Yeah, let us know when the Lord decided He did not mean what He said

Those that cannot see and understand this is all a trick of the devil... are being blinded and that ends badly for all eternity
You already know why people do this .
They create an image of GOD and what truth it is they follow . NOW any TRUTH that gets in the way
of what they love to hear , THEY disregaurd as not truth . This is a total recipe of disaster for them .
 
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So you admit that you believe God did not lead biblical writers to write what they wrote?

Those engaging in the view point are deceived and will be getting more and more deceived as they go...






So, you have now rejected ALL of Paul's writings?






So, you have now rejected ALL of Peter's writings?





There certainly is when one is thinking the thoughts the devil is telling
them to think.... such as God's Word is not really God's Word.





What other portions of scripture did God decide is not for us today?

Murdering innocent little babies (abortion), or teaching children to be perverts (LGBBQ)

Yeah, let us know when the Lord decided He did not mean what He said

Those that cannot see and understand this is all a trick of the devil... are being blinded and that ends badly for all eternity
I wasn't there and I can't read the Lord's mind. I think the apostles were good men. I suspect the Lord wanted them to write letters. They did write letters. I don't think the Lord would have agreed with Paul when Paul said women can't speak when they are in a church.
 

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None of the men were perfect, Except Jesus
But the word of God is inspired. So it is perfect.

When you read pauls letters. Your reading what God told him to write.
You treat the Bible as if it were God. It contains many quotes from God and Jesus, but I don't think you should treat it as if it were God.
 

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No I am not

That letter was written to the Corinth church

It is a known fact that women were looked down on in that city. It is a known fact that if a woman tried to speak. it would offend many a men

It is a known fact it would hinder the spread of the gospel if they were not asked to be silent.

It is a known fact we do not have this issue in our churches today (well like I said, in most. sadly we still have churches that think women should be second class citizens)

part of studying the bible is to get historical context.
Yes you are. You say the Bible is the Word of God, but you ignore what Paul said about women speaking in church.
 

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of course you do , that is known as the gospel according to BOB , or the book of BOB .
believe me when i say You aint alone either
many men have their own books which contain some truths and omit other truths .
PS while books like that can be best sellers and even give the person a false sense of peace
Believe me it was PNC , pick n choose , and on that train ride it dont end well .
Paul and Peter weren't God.
 
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You treat the Bible as if it were God. It contains many quotes from God and Jesus, but I don't think you should treat it as if it were God.
yea rather many treat the bible as though its a second hand book
and their own doctrines and words as though THEY BE THE WORD of GOD .
Here is a reminder for you , for me and for all .
ME is NOT GOD and thus i have no right to MAKE TRUTH As i desire it to be .
NOR DOES YOU , or any .
Now , lets bible up and actually START beleiving TRUTH rather than trying to omit truth and find a
way to be accepted by this ever changing society and churches .
 
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of course you do , that is known as the gospel according to BOB , or the book of BOB .
believe me when i say You aint alone either
many men have their own books which contain some truths and omit other truths .
PS while books like that can be best sellers and even give the person a false sense of peace
Believe me it was PNC , pick n choose , and on that train ride it dont end well .
You treat the Bible as if it were God. It isn't God. God and Jesus are quoted many times in the Bible, and we should do what they told us to do, but the Bible isn't God.
 

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You treat the Bible as if it were God. It isn't God. God and Jesus are quoted many times in the Bible, and we should do what they told us to do, but the Bible isn't God.
I HONOR HIS TRUTH , you DISHONOR it .
that is what is really going on my friend . And all you and others like you , WHO BEND truth to fit what they like ,
can say is OH YALL TREAT THE BIBLE AS THOUGH ITS GOD .
FRIEND , HE INSPIRED THEM WORDS . so my advice is
rather than kicking TRUTH in HIS FACE and saying , YOU LIE GOD
try beleiving what the SPIRIT inspired these men to write .
 
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I HONOR HIS TRUTH , you DISHONOR it .
that is what is really going on my friend . And all you and others like you , WHO BEND truth to fit what they like ,
can say is OH YALL TREAT THE BIBLE AS THOUGH ITS GOD .
FRIEND , HE INSPIRED THEM WORDS . so my advice is
rather than kicking TRUTH in HIS FACE and saying , YOU LIE GOD
try beleiving what the SPIRIT inspired these men to write .
You have placed the Bible at the same level as you have place the Lord. NOTHING belongs at the same level as the Lord. If you need something to hang onto, find the times God and Jesus are quoted in the Bible, and hang onto those things.
 

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It's spoken by PERMISSION of the Lord... so it's still God's Word.

If it was not God's Word, then the Lord would not have given him PERMISSION

The key here is... the Lord granted PERMISSION
What we're talking about here is Paul saying that it's better NOT to marry... and even Paul recognizes that this is NOT something he's inspired to say, so he's putting a footnote on it. Essentially he's saying "this one is from me, not God."
 

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You already know why people do this .
They create an image of GOD and what truth it is they follow . NOW any TRUTH that gets in the way
of what they love to hear , THEY disregaurd as not truth . This is a total recipe of disaster for them .

Yep, those with itching ears seek to have their ears tickled.



I wasn't there and I can't read the Lord's mind

1 Corinthians 2:16
For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

God's Word... contains God's view point so we can know what He's thinking

Those that reject God's Word... are now seeing things from the devil's point of view being in agreement with the devil.



I don't think the Lord would have agreed with Paul when Paul said women can't speak when they are in a church.

Yeah, there's lots of people that think the Lord does not honor His Word... they been listening to the devil.



this is NOT something he's inspired to say

But you missed the fact that God gave him PERMISSION to say that meaning God is in agreement with the statement.

If God was not agreement with the statement. then He would not have given PERMISSION for this statement to be put in to His Word.
 
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Yep, those with itching ears seek to have their ears tickled.





1 Corinthians 2:16
For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

God's Word... contains God's view point so we can know what He's thinking

Those that reject God's Word... are now seeing things from the devil's point of view being in agreement with the devil.





Yeah, there's lots of people that think the Lord does not honor His Word... they been listening to the devil.





But you missed the fact that God gave him PERMISSION to say that meaning God is in agreement with the statement.

If God was not agreement with the statement. then He would not have given PERMISSION for this statement to be put in to His Word.
You can't put the Bible at the same level as the Lord. What you can do is find the times Jesus and the Father are quoted in the Bible and take those words to heart.
 
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You treat the Bible as if it were God. It contains many quotes from God and Jesus, but I don't think you should treat it as if it were God.
lol

The bible is Gods love letter to us

You act as if it is nothing.

It is of God It is god breathed.. Men did not just write whatever they wanted and God allowed it into his word.
 

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Yes you are. You say the Bible is the Word of God, but you ignore what Paul said about women speaking in church.
No I do not. I just take what Paul said in context.

but whatever.

You say the word of God is words of men, now you say we should take it at face value because you said so.

contradiction