The Resurrection Parallel Accounts

[IndianaRob]

Nope. Scripture never talks about resurrecting Old Testament saints separately from New Testament saints. No, John 6:39-40 are referring to the same people.

John 6:39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

In verse 40, Jesus simply expanded on what He said in verse 39 by indicating that those who the Father gives Him are "everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him". Those are the ones who will be resurrected at the last day when Jesus returns in the future. You are sadly mistaken.

I must be mistaken but I thought you agreed earlier that the tabernacle of David was the Old Testament body of Christ. Did I misunderstand you?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I must be mistaken but I thought you agreed earlier that the tabernacle of David was the Old Testament body of Christ. Did I misunderstand you?

No, you didn't misunderstand me. Are you somehow not reading what I'm saying about John 6:39-40? The last day will be the day that Jesus returns in the future. John 6:39-40 go hand in hand, as I said. It refers to the bodily resurrection of all believers on the last day when Jesus returns in the future. I'm not saying any more about this. If you don't understand what I'm saying by now, then so be it. I can't explain my view any clearer to you. To suggest that the last day occurred already in the past is just ridiculous and I don't want to waste any more of my time on this nonsense.

 

[IndianaRob]

No, you didn't misunderstand me. Are you somehow not reading what I'm saying about John 6:39-40? The last day will be the day that Jesus returns in the future. John 6:39-40 go hand in hand, as I said. It refers to the bodily resurrection of all believers on the last day when Jesus returns in the future. I'm not saying any more about this. If you don't understand what I'm saying by now, then so be it. I can't explain my view any clearer to you. To suggest that the last day occurred already in the past is just ridiculous and I don't want to waste any more of my time on this nonsense.

Hold your horses on John because you’ve got to understand the tabernacle of David which you said were the Old Testament saints.

In Amos 8 the tabernacle of David (the Old Testament saints) are RAISED UP.

Amo 9:11 In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:

In Acts 15:15-16 we are told Amos 9:11 was fulfilled.

Act 15:15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,

Act 15:16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:

Were the Old Testament saints raised or not?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Hold your horses on John because you’ve got to understand the tabernacle of David which you said were the Old Testament saints.

In Amos 8 the tabernacle of David (the Old Testament saints) are RAISED UP.

Amo 9:11 In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:

In Acts 15:15-16 we are told Amos 9:11 was fulfilled.

Act 15:15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,

Act 15:16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:

Were the Old Testament saints raised or not?

This is just ridiculous. The context of John 6:39 is the bodily resurrection of the dead. No one will be resurrected from the dead until Jesus returns in the future. You have no idea of what you're talking about whatsoever.

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.

 

[IndianaRob]

This is just ridiculous. The context of John 6:39 is the bodily resurrection of the dead. No one will be resurrected from the dead until Jesus returns in the future. You have no idea of what you're talking about whatsoever.

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.

There’s nothing ridiculous about it. The book of Acts said the tabernacle of David was raised, the tabernacle of David was the Old Testament saints and there’s no such thing as a “double resurrection”.

The ridiculous part is that it’s right there in front of your face, spelled out in black and white and yet you still won’t believe because it goes against YOUR version of the resurrection.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

There’s nothing ridiculous about it. The book of Acts said the tabernacle of David was raised, the tabernacle of David was the Old Testament saints and there’s no such thing as a “double resurrection”.

That has nothing to do with anyone being bodily resurrected unto bodily immortality.

The ridiculous part is that it’s right there in front of your face, spelled out in black and white and yet you still won’t believe because it goes against YOUR version of the resurrection.

Your interpretation goes against Paul saying that the order of resurrections is Christ's first and then next those who are His at His future second coming (1 Cor 15:22-23). So, I'm not going to read any more of your ridiculous nonsense acting as if anyone besides Christ has been resurrected unto bodily immortality yet.

 

[IndianaRob]

That has nothing to do with anyone being bodily resurrected unto bodily immortality.


Your interpretation goes against Paul saying that the order of resurrections is Christ's first and then next those who are His at His future second coming (1 Cor 15:22-23). So, I'm not going to read any more of your ridiculous nonsense acting as if anyone besides Christ has been resurrected unto bodily immortality yet.

Thank you.