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What Spirit is in you and where does this spirit of yours reside?

What does being Born Again of imperishable seed mean?

Very easy to answer?
Yes it is very easy to answer, Christ in you, the hope of glory, Jesus dwells in Christians hearts

Being Born again of imperishable seed would involve being born again of something that cannot perish, now your turn.....

Is Jesus in you?
 

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Yes it is very easy to answer, Christ in you, the hope of glory, Jesus dwells in Christians hearts
That is not biblical @Seethat ....the seed indwells us my lovely....it was a gift from God....whose imperishable seed do you think we are Born Again of? @Seethat
Being Born again of imperishable seed would involve being born again of something that cannot perish, now your turn.....

Is Jesus in you?

Back up your post using scripture please.

Something that cannot perish?...what/ who can’t perish?

Not biblical....scripture please?

Opinions don’t count

Scripture please .i have asked so many times and still you dodge?
 
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Back up your post using scripture please.

Something that cannot perish?

Not biblical....scripture please?

Opinions don’t count
John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

So you have to believe and faith comes by hearing the word of God, Then you have to be born again and receive Christ, have either of those things happened to you?
 

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Spiritual power comes from within ,it has nothing to do with any power we have, because we have NONE!!

Thats true.

As a matter of fact... when the Born again believer tries to "DO Christianity", they can't..... as Christianity is built on God, and not on self effort.

So, as Paul teaches... "I can, (we can) do ALL things..... through Christ"., and that is spiritual power within us, that is our power to live the holy life, and receive from God, all that God has for us.
 

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John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

So you have to believe and faith comes by hearing the word of God,
Definitely not faith is a gift from God.
Then you have to be born again and receive Christ, have either of those things happened to you?
Un - truth.....I’m still waiting for you to post Born Again scripture.

You can’t believe in Jesus without the Spirit of truth entering into your heart, that is why we must be Born Again of imperishable seed...that is the Living witness to Gods truth.....he testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children.

I think you believe in freewill that you chose God?
I don’t believe in freewill.

I don’t discuss my faith on this board anymore..causes to much arguing...a servant of God should not keep going over the same ground day in day out.
 

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Christ in you, the hope of glory, Jesus dwells in Christians hearts
That is not biblical @Seethat ....the seed indwells us my lovely....it was a gift from God....whose imperishable seed do you think we are Born Again of? @Seethat
Colossians 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory

Ephesians 3:17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love
 

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Colossians 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory

Ephesians 3:17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love
Indeed, once we have become Born Again of imperishable seed.

The seed who is Gods witness to Gods truth, Christ dwells in our hearts/ spirit, via His Living Holy Spirit.

You can’t know anything without being Born Again of imperishable seed....unless you have been Born Again of imperishable seed.

He is our Living witness who indwells our heart/spirit...we need him to understand scripture as we are spiritual children.

Only the Living Holy Spirit can make our spirit Born Again.

The written word can’t do that I’m afraid.

Regardless of how well one is versed in scripture.
 
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I don’t believe in freewill.

Free Will is the right to choose....its the ability to make a choice, vs, another choice.

Are you posting on My Thread?
Did you choose to Post on MY Thread.
Will you choose to do this again and again...

This is your FREE Will... You are CHOOSING to do it..

CHOICE = making a CHOICE.....is using your FREE Will.
 
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Free Will is the right to choose....its the ability to make a choice, vs, another choice.

Are you posting on My Thread?
Did you choose to Post on MY Thread.
Will you choose to do this again and again...

This is your FREE Will... You are CHOOSING to do it..

CHOICE = making a CHOICE.....is using your FREE Will.
Listen, stop forcing your belief onto me, I’ve explained to you I’m not going down that road with you again....therefore respect my wishes!
 

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Listen, stop forcing your belief onto me, I’ve explained to you I’m not going down that road with you again....therefore respect my wishes!

Can you stop posting on my Threads?
I dont want you on them, ever again.

So, will you tell me..>"its not your forum behold, so, you can't make me stay off your Threads".

But i can ask you to "respect" what i want you to do, as you are asking me.

Isn't that FAIR? ????

So, if you will stay off my THREADS......all of them, then i will respect your request, also, and you can count on it.

A.) You'll never do it, as you are obsessed to teach Calvinism, and then deny you are doing it.... @Ritajanice .


So, if you want "respect" then stay off my Threads, and you can rest assured that we are finished corresponding.


Whats that?

You can't do it?

Ok, well, thats your FREE WILL......= so, chose to do what YOU want, instead, as i told you that you will CHOOSE.
 

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Can you stop posting on my Threads?
I dont want you on them, ever again.

Are you telling me to not post on your threads ever again?
So, will you tell me..>"its not your forum behold, so, you can't make me stay off your Threads".

But i can ask you to "respect" what i want you to do, as you are asking me.

So, if you will stay off my THREADS......all of them, then i will respect your request, also.

A.) You'll never do it, as you are obsessed to teach Calvinism, and then deny you are doing it....
I’ve done no such thing.
@Ritajanice .


So, if you want "respect" then stay off my Threads, and you can rest assured that we are finished corresponding.
I asked you not to force your belief onto me....I don’t believe in freewill you do...therefore you should respect the belief of another.
Whats that?

You can't do it?

Ok, well, that yours FREE WILL......... so, chose to do what YOU want, instead.
Have no idea what you are saying here?

Please confirm.

Are you telling me to stay off your threads/ topics?
 

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Ok well you said "That is not biblical" when I quoted the same thing in a sentence

The written word can’t do that I’m afraid.
John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

The simple question was have you received Jesus? or have you believed in Jesus, it should be obvious to others you are not going to answer.

1 Peter 1:23 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
 

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Are you telling me to not post on your threads ever again?

Was i not clear?

See, you tell people...(while you are agitating and abusing them) that they are "forcing their belief's on you"..

So, im happy to not have you do that on My Threads, and so, can you stay off them....ALL?

All of them?

Forever?

Am i clear?
Do you want me to send you a RED BALOON that says the same thing?

If i send you some of these..... xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Will you get the message?
xx
xx
xx
xx
xx

Did you get it?
Would you like me to ask Epi or St Steven, or Brightframe to explain to you, what im asking you @Ritajanice ?

Now use your FREE WILL and do what ive asked you to do, and then you wont have be concerned that "behold" is going to try to force you to stop teaching Calvinism\, on BEHOLDS's THREADS.

see it?

Am i clear?


Thats a promise.

Take me up on it.
Today.
ASAP
 

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Ok well you said "That is not biblical" when I quoted the same thing in a sentence
I said no such thing, I said your words aren’t biblical.
John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
Indeed the scriptures don’t give you eternal life, only being Born Again of imperishable seed can give you eternal life.
The simple question was have you received Jesus? or have you believed in Jesus, it should be obvious to others you are not going to answer.

1 Peter 1:23 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
Indeed, examine yourself are you/ we sure we have been Born Again of imperishable seed?
 

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Was i not clear?

See, you tell people...(while you are agitating and abusing them) that they are "forcing their belief's on you"..
You are forcing me to believe in freewill..constantly?

Agitating and abusing them.... @Behold ...please show me where I have done this?
So, im happy to not have you do that on My Threads, and so, can you stay off them....

All of them?

Forever?

Am i clear?
Do you want me to send you a BALOON that says the same thing?
Would you like me to ask Epi or St Steven, or Brightframe to explain to you, what im asking you @Ritajanice ?
Not making any sense here?
Now use your FREE WILL and do what ive asked you to do, and then you wont have be concerned that "behold" is going to try to force you to stop teaching Calvinism.

Thats a promise.

Take me up on it.
Today.
ASAP
Once again you are telling me to use my freewill...

I’m not a freewiller ...you are...
 
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Free Will is the right to choose....its the ability to make a choice, vs, another choice.

Are you posting on My Thread?
Did you choose to Post on MY Thread.
Will you choose to do this again and again...

This is your FREE Will... You are CHOOSING to do it..

CHOICE = making a CHOICE.....is using your FREE Will.
I haven’t chosen to post on your thread. The Holy Spirit is leading me to do so.

I don’t want to post on your thread, but, I must be obedient to what I believe the Holy Spirit is leading me to do...I can’t stop his leading...sorry it upsets you so very much.

Whatever he wants me to say, I’m afraid it just comes out ...when I type...I just check what is being said to my heart/ spirit, after I’ve finished typing....making sure it’s inline with his word, then Bobs your uncle, I hit that submit button.
 

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So, will you tell me..>"its not your forum behold, so, you can't make me stay off your Threads".
Where have I said this on this thread?

I thought this thread was about the power within us?

The power to live it you say.

Yes, but when the power in me ( The Holy Spirit) prompts me to speak his words , I don’t have the freewill to say no...did Jesus have freewill to tell God,NO?
 

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I haven’t chosen to post on your thread. The Holy Spirit is leading me to do so.


You could not even control yourself for 30 mins.
See, I told you that you would not be able to stop.
As That's what Calvin does to people, he takes over their mind and has them believing that God is in charge.

Paul teaches this as being "BEWITCHED"...

You are the living proof regarding what a...Hebrews 13:9 "" doctrine of devil's""" does, regarding how it takes over their behavior.

= Completely.
 

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I told you that you would not be able to stop.

That's what Calvin does to people, he takes over their mind and has them believing that God is in charge.

You are the living proof.
How can he take over my mind, when I have never ever read any of his books.

How can he take my mind over?

Can you please explain that to me?

I am led by the Spirit,..I know in my spirit/ heart when to post, I can’t stop it and I don’t want to, I love being obedient and submitting my will over to God..I believe I am in full submission and I can’t get enough,xx
 

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You could not even control yourself for 30 mins.
See, I told you that you would not be able to stop.
As That's what Calvin does to people, he takes over their mind and has them believing that God is in charge.

Paul teaches this as being "BEWITCHED"...

You are the living proof regarding what a...Hebrews 13:9 "" doctrine of devil's""" does, regarding how it takes over their behavior.

= Completely.
John 14:26
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New International Version
But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.

New Living Translation
But when the Father sends the Advocate as my representative—that is, the Holy Spirit—he will teach you everything and will remind you of everything I have told you.

English Standard Version
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

Berean Standard Bible
But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have told you.

Berean Literal Bible
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things and will bring to your remembrance all things that I have said to you.