The Power Of God

[soul man]

1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. - Romans 13:1-4.

The power is of God. No power given but which is given of God. We don't want to recognize that power.. even if we have the ability to recognize the powers that be. Powers in this world to demonstrate the power of God. The powers of God that work in the world to bring about his purpose. Let's look at an example.

For instance - we know evil. We know good. We know the difference between the two. We see evil under the powers of God in the world. Good works the same way. In the world if you do good you can get along ok..If you do evil you fall into the power of God to judge evil. Good is the same way.. even in doing good you are still under the power of God. Now through the years of man's creation, there has been a judgement on the power of good and evil. Look at the many faults and failures of man to execute judgement on good and evil. Good and evil always at war with each other. But that power is of God. Men claiming to be falsely accused in judgement. That is correct, it happens under the power of men. But that power is of God. Why would God do that. Why would he give man power to execute judgments in the world? His purpose.

It is not his purpose for men to live by good or evil. So the power given is to execute judgment on both - good and evil. What does scripture say; he did not come to condemn man but to save the world from the condemnation.

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. - John 3:18.

Condemnation is in both good and evil. He gave powers to execute judgment on both powers.. good and evil. So the problem is not in falsely accused, but in the condemnation of the world. Have you ever lived your best life, as they say. And still had the power given.. working against you. You hear it all the time, how men are falsely accused! That is the judgement of God on the condemnation of the world.

Where does that pass away, where is the only place that does not take place - in Christ. There is therefore now no condemnation to those that are in Christ Jesus!

You can live your best life - even in Christ - and still live under condemnation .. the powers that be. It is not goodness.. good judgements, nor evil judgements. The only power given by God whereby men might be saved, is the cross. The power of God unto salvation. Every power in the world works toward his purpose for creation. The reason men and women breathe. The breath of life! under God's power for his purpose.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

For instance - we know evil. We know good. We know the difference between the two.

do we know the difference? Are you sure? Sometimes I wonder what is good and what is evil? Isaiah 5:18-24 Woe unto them that draw iniquity with cords of vanity, and sin as it were with a cart rope: [19] That say, Let him make speed, and hasten his work, that we may see it : and let the counsel of the Holy One of Israel draw nigh and come, that we may know it ! [20] Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! [21] Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! [22] Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink: [23] Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him! [24] Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the Lord of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.

 

[soul man]

do we know the difference? Are you sure? Sometimes I wonder what is good and what is evil? Isaiah 5:18-24 Woe unto them that draw iniquity with cords of vanity, and sin as it were with a cart rope: [19] That say, Let him make speed, and hasten his work, that we may see it : and let the counsel of the Holy One of Israel draw nigh and come, that we may know it ! [20] Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! [21] Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! [22] Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink: [23] Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him! [24] Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the Lord of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.

Yes.. but that is just the day we live in. People know good and evil, they are born with it.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Yes.. but that is just the day we live in. People know good and evil, they are born with it.

love the lexicon version as well
Isaiah 5:20 Lexicon: Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!


Isaiah 5:22 Lexicon: Woe to those who are heroes in drinking wine And valiant men in mixing strong drink,


heroes


Thank you for your topic. It is definitely something to keep in mind today.

 

[soul man]

Men and women know good and evil. Those that don't have become reprobate in mind. Sin has take full charge over them. No mind to war against it.

 

[soul man]

love the lexicon version as well
Isaiah 5:20 Lexicon: Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!


Isaiah 5:22 Lexicon: Woe to those who are heroes in drinking wine And valiant men in mixing strong drink,


heroes


Thank you for your topic. It is definitely something to keep in mind today.

Yes great scriptures!

 

[Robert Gwin]

1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. - Romans 13:1-4.

The power is of God. No power given but which is given of God. We don't want to recognize that power.. even if we have the ability to recognize the powers that be. Powers in this world to demonstrate the power of God. The powers of God that work in the world to bring about his purpose. Let's look at an example.

For instance - we know evil. We know good. We know the difference between the two. We see evil under the powers of God in the world. Good works the same way. In the world if you do good you can get along ok..If you do evil you fall into the power of God to judge evil. Good is the same way.. even in doing good you are still under the power of God. Now through the years of man's creation, there has been a judgement on the power of good and evil. Look at the many faults and failures of man to execute judgement on good and evil. Good and evil always at war with each other. But that power is of God. Men claiming to be falsely accused in judgement. That is correct, it happens under the power of men. But that power is of God. Why would God do that. Why would he give man power to execute judgments in the world? His purpose.

It is not his purpose for men to live by good or evil. So the power given is to execute judgment on both - good and evil. What does scripture say; he did not come to condemn man but to save the world from the condemnation.

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. - John 3:18.

Condemnation is in both good and evil. He gave powers to execute judgment on both powers.. good and evil. So the problem is not in falsely accused, but in the condemnation of the world. Have you ever lived your best life, as they say. And still had the power given.. working against you. You hear it all the time, how men are falsely accused! That is the judgement of God on the condemnation of the world.

Where does that pass away, where is the only place that does not take place - in Christ. There is therefore now no condemnation to those that are in Christ Jesus!

You can live your best life - even in Christ - and still live under condemnation .. the powers that be. It is not goodness.. good judgements, nor evil judgements. The only power given by God whereby men might be saved, is the cross. The power of God unto salvation. Every power in the world works toward his purpose for creation. The reason men and women breathe. The breath of life! under God's power for his purpose.

You know that is an interesting passage of Scripture Mike, one that has puzzled me for years. If you understand the same as I do that the higher powers are governments, then perhaps it puzzles you as well. First of all, no government on earth is God's Kingdom, in fact they all belong to satan, or at least did when Jesus was on earth Mat 4:8,9. They will all be destroyed when God's Kingdom comes Dan 2:44. Yet as you showed the Bible states very clearly that we are to obey them, and not take a stand against them, and then it goes on to tell why, as they do maintain an order in the chaos of society. One thing to keep in mind as Christians however is to render to Caesar those things that are his, but if they come between you obeying God's things to God, then we will obey God every time.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Yes great scriptures!

not to change the direction of your topic but so you know what is going through my mind…wrong or right is this. I was a stay at home mom. There was not much success in the working area for me. I have two sisters who are very dependable, they have accountability, and show great responsibility. I love them both as older more mature role models. But at the same time I always heard, even from my mother that I lack my sisters responsibility and accountability. It hurt. But then I ask what of responsibility to God? What of accountability to God. When I would feel completely like a failure for lacking accountability or responsibility…I would be encouraged that accountability and responsibility to God is not lacking accountability and responsibility…even if others say I lack those things. Maybe I do lack accountability and responsibility …but then again maybe not. This is my example of do we really know the difference?

 

[soul man]

You know that is an interesting passage of Scripture Mike, one that has puzzled me for years. If you understand the same as I do that the higher powers are governments, then perhaps it puzzles you as well. First of all, no government on earth is God's Kingdom, in fact they all belong to satan, or at least did when Jesus was on earth Mat 4:8,9. They will all be destroyed when God's Kingdom comes Dan 2:44. Yet as you showed the Bible states very clearly that we are to obey them, and not take a stand against them, and then it goes on to tell why, as they do maintain an order in the chaos of society. One thing to keep in mind as Christians however is to render to Caesar those things that are his, but if they come between you obeying God's things to God, then we will obey God every time.

Yes good word. Though of Satan.. the God of this world. No power given but of God. So we see a world in action, it is the power of God in effect. We know by scripture now.. the World is a schoolhouse. Saint and sinner alike. Non exempt.. we see the power of God in his purpose.

 

[soul man]

not to change the direction of your topic but so you know what is going through my mind…wrong or right is this. I was a stay at home mom. There was not much success in the working area for me. I have two sisters who are very dependable, they have accountability, and show great responsibility. I love them both as older more mature role models. But at the same time I always heard, even from my mother that I lack my sisters responsibility and accountability. It hurt. But then I ask what of responsibility to God? What of accountability to God. When I would feel completely like a failure for lacking accountability or responsibility…I would be encouraged that accountability and responsibility to God is not lacking accountability and responsibility…even if others say I lack those things. Maybe I do lack accountability and responsibility …but then again maybe not. This is my example of do we really know the difference?

I understand what you are saying. So many of us know what you are saying. We were judged by the world, family, ourselves. We never matched up. As we see Christ now.. it may even seem to be a strange matter for those that don't know. Jesus was judged the same way - religion, the world, even his own family said he was beside him self. Nothing wrong with self, it just had the 'wrong' applied to it in the beginning. That self (the image and likeness of God) has a new life, new way of living. The 'right' applied .. if you will. That is what we can see in the new creation .. the right way of living. It doesn't matter what people say, we don't belong to them. Do I please man.. or do I please God. The pleasing of our father.. Christ in you life.