The Mother is the origin of the harlots

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

tailgator

Well-Known Member
Jun 23, 2024
2,845
221
63
61
North Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
The Seven Hills of Rome lie in the east to the Tiber River.
The Roman church retains the blood and body parts of the dead. They're known as relics.
The word of God never fails.

37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
 

tailgator

Well-Known Member
Jun 23, 2024
2,845
221
63
61
North Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
The word of God never fails.

37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
The Lord comes on the day of Jerusalems desolation.
 

BlessedPeace

Well-Known Member
Aug 22, 2023
5,917
4,612
113
Bend
youtube.com
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
The word of God never fails.

37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
True. God is The Word.The Bible is mans book.

 

Stewardofthemystery

Well-Known Member
Jul 22, 2024
1,412
317
83
62
Tennessee
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
The city has a king who rules his kingdom and subjects who follow his orders.

Jesus is never wrong.You should pay attention to his words.


37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
Hebrews 13:14
For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.
 

tailgator

Well-Known Member
Jun 23, 2024
2,845
221
63
61
North Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Hebrews 13:14
For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.
It has not come yet
It comes after the millinium .Long after Babylon the great has been destroyed.

Revelation 21
21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.



new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven,
 

Stewardofthemystery

Well-Known Member
Jul 22, 2024
1,412
317
83
62
Tennessee
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
after Babylon the great has been destroyed.
Babylon was destroyed long ago, and is to be desolate forever per the words of the Lord.

Jeremiah 51:24-26
King James Version

24 And I will render unto Babylon and to all the inhabitants of Chaldea all their evil that they have done in Zion in your sight, saith the Lord.
25 Behold, I am against thee, O destroying mountain, saith the Lord, which destroyest all the earth: and I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and roll thee down from the rocks, and will make thee a burnt mountain.
26 And they shall not take of thee a stone for a corner, nor a stone for foundations; but thou shalt be desolate for ever, saith the Lord.
 

Spiritual Israelite

Well-Known Member
Apr 13, 2022
10,734
4,438
113
Midwest
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
What city did Jesus say was responsible for ALL of the righteous blood shed upon earth?


Hint
It sits on seven peeks called mountains.
You are continuing to think carnally and not spiritually. Can a symbolic woman sit on literal things? No.

Revelation 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

This requires spiritual wisdom to understand, of which you have none. To think it's talking about literal mountains requires no wisdom whatsoever. The symbolic woman does not sit on literal things.

Revelation 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

Is this talking about the woman sitting on literal waters? No.

Revelation 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

The mountains she sits on are no more literal than the many waters she sits on or the scarlet colored seven-headed, ten-horned beast that she sits on. In scripture, mountains symbolically represent kingdoms.
 

tailgator

Well-Known Member
Jun 23, 2024
2,845
221
63
61
North Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Babylon was destroyed long ago, and is to be desolate forever per the words of the Lord.

Jeremiah 51:24-26​

King James Version​

24 And I will render unto Babylon and to all the inhabitants of Chaldea all their evil that they have done in Zion in your sight, saith the Lord.
25 Behold, I am against thee, O destroying mountain, saith the Lord, which destroyest all the earth: and I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and roll thee down from the rocks, and will make thee a burnt mountain.
26 And they shall not take of thee a stone for a corner, nor a stone for foundations; but thou shalt be desolate for ever, saith the Lord.
You believe Babylon the great was destroyed before the book of revelation was written?

Really?



Revelation 16
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
 

Ronald Nolette

Well-Known Member
Aug 24, 2020
15,012
4,467
113
70
South Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Mystery Babylon is the Mother of the harlots. Meaning she is the origin of this harlot mentality.

Here is a clue I think a lot of people miss when trying to understand this mystery…

Revelation 18:24
And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Where is the place that ALL the blood of every one that has ever been slain is found?

Here it is…
Genesis 4:11
And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;

It is this earth/ world that produces the harlot mentality.

Notice what James says…
James 4:4
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

Think about it. Peace
True but when a woman is called a harlot it means one who has fallen from the truth and is playing like a harlot or a false religious system

Mystery Babylon the Great, the MOTHER of all harlots and abominations on teh earth is the clue it is talking false religion.

False religion experienced its great birth in ancient Babylon and Nimrod and Semiramis. When you study teh MYSTERY religious system they established, you find that those mystery abominations are present in all false religious systems including many apostate churches within christendom.

False religious believers will have a friendshhip with the world, but their friendship with the world is not the reason they are adulterers and adulteresses. It is they hold a differing religion than the true faith in Scripture that makes them adulterers and adulteresses.

Some of the mystery religions today and some of the acts they do

Masons
Christian SCience
Illuminati
New Age
Hinduism
Buddhism
Daoism
Luciferianism (not Satanism)
Penances
secret confessional booths
ancient secrets
mystic revelations
Sacred stones
 

tailgator

Well-Known Member
Jun 23, 2024
2,845
221
63
61
North Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Babylon was destroyed long ago, and is to be desolate forever per the words of the Lord.

Jeremiah 51:24-26​

King James Version​

24 And I will render unto Babylon and to all the inhabitants of Chaldea all their evil that they have done in Zion in your sight, saith the Lord.
25 Behold, I am against thee, O destroying mountain, saith the Lord, which destroyest all the earth: and I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and roll thee down from the rocks, and will make thee a burnt mountain.
26 And they shall not take of thee a stone for a corner, nor a stone for foundations; but thou shalt be desolate for ever, saith the Lord.
The king of Babylon says he will stand against the Medes.He doesnt understand the end game .He doesn't understand the word of God pronounced against him.

 

Stewardofthemystery

Well-Known Member
Jul 22, 2024
1,412
317
83
62
Tennessee
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
The king of Babylon says he will stand against the Medes.He doesnt understand the end game .He doesn't understand the word of God pronounced against him.

Lol. So you think BIBI is the King of Babylon and Trump is the man of sin? I told you to stop drinking that frog flavored Kool Aid.
 

tailgator

Well-Known Member
Jun 23, 2024
2,845
221
63
61
North Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Lol. So you think BIBI is the King of Babylon and Trump is the man of sin? I told you to stop drinking that frog flavored Kool Aid.
Tell me this,who has been smiting palestinia with his rod?

Isaiah 14
29 Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent's root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.


This is speaking of the people in Gaza rejoicing after the rod of the king who smote them is broken.After Babylon the great has been defeated by the Medes.
It's an end time prophecy which takes place before the founding of Zion.
You know who the king of Zion is dont you?

Isaiah 14
31 Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times.

32 What shall one then answer the messengers of the nation? That the Lord hath founded Zion, and the poor of his people shall trust in it.
 

tailgator

Well-Known Member
Jun 23, 2024
2,845
221
63
61
North Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Babylon was destroyed long ago, and is to be desolate forever per the words of the Lord.

Jeremiah 51:24-26​

King James Version​

24 And I will render unto Babylon and to all the inhabitants of Chaldea all their evil that they have done in Zion in your sight, saith the Lord.
25 Behold, I am against thee, O destroying mountain, saith the Lord, which destroyest all the earth: and I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and roll thee down from the rocks, and will make thee a burnt mountain.
26 And they shall not take of thee a stone for a corner, nor a stone for foundations; but thou shalt be desolate for ever, saith the Lord.
What year do you believe Babylon the great was destroyed?When was the war of armegeddon Israel?


Revelation 16
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
 

Spiritual Israelite

Well-Known Member
Apr 13, 2022
10,734
4,438
113
Midwest
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Lol. So you think BIBI is the King of Babylon and Trump is the man of sin? I told you to stop drinking that frog flavored Kool Aid.
Keep in mind that he is a person who undermines the teachings of Paul, so he can't be trusted at all about anything. I showed him something about the order of the resurrections of the dead unto bodily immortality by referencing 1 Corinthians 15:22-23 and he completely dismissed it because he said Paul didn't have the full revelation of Bible prophecy. So, basically, he said Paul's writings about Bible prophecy can't be trusted. That's the kind of person he is.
 

Phoneman777

Well-Known Member
Jan 14, 2015
8,121
2,764
113
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Mystery Babylon is the Mother of the harlots. Meaning she is the origin of this harlot mentality.

Here is a clue I think a lot of people miss when trying to understand this mystery…

Revelation 18:24
And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Where is the place that ALL the blood of every one that has ever been slain is found?

Here it is…
Genesis 4:11
And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;

It is this earth/ world that produces the harlot mentality.

Notice what James says…
James 4:4
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

Think about it. Peace
A "woman" in prophecy represents a "church" (yes, even the OT "church that was in the wilderness").

The Pure Woman "keeps the commandments of God and has the testimony of Jesus Christ" aka "the spirit of prophecy" (Revelation 12:17 KJV; Revelation 19:10 KJV).

The Mystery Babylon Harlot commits fornication - she runs after other "gods" and delights in sin.

The Daughters (apostate Protestantism) do just as the Harlot Mother (the papal apostate "Mother Church") do because they share the same whore mentality. They both embrace satanic lies, such as Innate Immortality of the Soul, Eternal Torment, Sunday sacredness, Primacy of Church Tradition, Christmas/Easter/Lent, unBiblical Lingual Ecstatics, etc.
 
Last edited:

Stewardofthemystery

Well-Known Member
Jul 22, 2024
1,412
317
83
62
Tennessee
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
A "woman" in prophecy represents a "church" (yes, even the OT "church that was in the wilderness").

The Pure Woman "keeps the commandments of God and has the testimony of Jesus Christ" aka "the spirit of prophecy" (Revelation 12:17 KJV; Revelation 19:10 KJV).

The Mystery Babylon Harlot commits fornication - she runs after other "gods" and delights in sin.

The Daughters (apostate Protestantism) do just as the Harlot Mother (the papal apostate "Mother Church") do because they share the same whore mentality. They both embrace satanic lies, such as Innate Immortality of the Soul, Eternal Torment, Sunday sacredness, Primacy of Church Tradition, Christmas/Easter/Lent, unBiblical Lingual Ecstatics, etc.
Mystery Babylon is the Mother of “the harlots.” Meaning she is the origin of this harlot mentality.

Here is a clue I think a lot of people miss when trying to understand this mystery…

Revelation 18:24
And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of “all“that were slain upon the earth.

Where is the place that ALL the blood of every one that has ever been slain is found?

Here it is…
Genesis 4:11
And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's bloodfrom thy hand;

It is this earth/ world that produces the harlot mentality.

Notice what James says…
James 4:4
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

1 John 2:16
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Think about it. Peace
 

Phoneman777

Well-Known Member
Jan 14, 2015
8,121
2,764
113
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Mystery Babylon is the Mother of “the harlots.” Meaning she is the origin of this harlot mentality.
Yes, she (the "Whore that rides the Beast" aka the papal "church/state union") is the "mother" of Christian apostasy, like "harlot" Israel which turned her back on God to "play the harlot" with Baal, Dagon, etc.
Where is the place that ALL the blood of every one that has ever been slain is found?
Yes, "all" - but in reference to what?
Certainly not every martyred prophet and saint throughout history.
Proof?

Because it's a prophecy of "things which must shortly come to pass" aka future events, not past.

It's talking about the papal power aka "Mystery Babylon the Great, the Mother of Harlots" that arose in Rome and would go on to slaughter between 75 - 150 MILLION saints and prophets of Christianity (yes, there were prophets in the NT).
 

Stewardofthemystery

Well-Known Member
Jul 22, 2024
1,412
317
83
62
Tennessee
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Yes, she (the "Whore that rides the Beast" aka the papal "church/state union") is the "mother" of Christian apostasy, like "harlot" Israel which turned her back on God to "play the harlot" with Baal, Dagon, etc.
The woman has the name written on her forehead
Revelation 17:5
And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth

The saints have the name of God written on their foreheads but that does not make them God. The name signifies to whom they belong and what kind of heart/mind/spirit they have.
Yes, "all" - but in reference to what?
It says ALL that were slain upon the earth…
Revelation 18:24
And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of “all“that were slain upon the earth.
It's talking about the papal power aka "Mystery Babylon the Great, the Mother of Harlots" that arose in Rome and would go on to slaughter between 75 - 150 MILLION saints and prophets of Christianity (yes, there were prophets in the NT).
The RCC may have played the harlot with the ways of the world, but so too have many other denominations. Those religions who are “of the world” are also of their Mother.

The saints of God are not of this world.
 

Phoneman777

Well-Known Member
Jan 14, 2015
8,121
2,764
113
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
The saints have the name of God written on their foreheads but that does not make them God.
I didn't say it did make them God - I think you responded to the wrong post.
It says ALL that were slain upon the earth…
Revelation 18:24
So, you're just going to ignore what I said about how "things which must shortly come to pass" in Revelation 1 qualifies the "all" that is written in Revelation 18?

That "all" is referring to a future death toll which must "come to pass" and not "all of Earth's history"?

You're just going to ignore that?
 

Stewardofthemystery

Well-Known Member
Jul 22, 2024
1,412
317
83
62
Tennessee
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I didn't say it did make them God - I think you responded to the wrong post.
And SO the name written on the woman’s forehead does not make her the Mother either.
So, you're just going to ignore what I said about how "things which must shortly come to pass" in Revelation 1 qualifies the "all" that is written in Revelation 18?

That "all" is referring to a future death toll which must "come to pass" and not "all of Earth's history"?

You're just going to ignore that?
Jesus started with the blood of Abel, that is referring to ALL the saints…
Matthew 23:35
That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

So your point mute.