The cycle of abuse
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How would I know such thing's stunnedbydesire. What I do know is that I really know nothing of the more and more.
I agree. The more I come to know God, the more I become aware of the less and less I know. It sounds crazy, but it's true. It's like...He empties me...in order to fill me. But what He fills me with is not what I expected.
The first time I read St John of the Cross, I was puzzled at one of his pictures and writings. He kept saying the way TO God was to know nothing, to desire nothing, to be nothing. It took me years to understand it. The picture and words were in...Ascent To Mt. Carmel.
Ah the holy spirit.
There one day, gone the next. If I ever run into my holy spirit, I'll just melt.
Funny you should say that - there one day, gone the next - because the first book I read by John is about that. At least the first part of the book is about it. How He disappears to our senses.
And it's kind of crazy because I looked and looked for a man to tell me what the heck was going on with me, but I found no such man. Then, I did find him, though he's been gone from earth for centuries. Its too weird!
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Ah, I apologize, with answers I'm not so great I guess. I tried to be as clear as possible there, I became a soul, I do not have a soul.
But I guess what happens after we have literally died is not going to change based upon anyone's beliefs anyway, right? No matter how many scribes change faith to belief, I don't think a judgement for beliefs can be manufactured, except possibly from the one parable, and even then youd have to go LALALA at a lot of other Scripture I think.
But fwiw I'm finding that reflecting on our baptism ritual kind of makes the point for many believers, the...more seeking ones anyway, seems like; what died that day, when you came up out of the water?Who died? Bc there is no Testament without a death, right.
Of course we all start with "Jesus died," and we take that and our New Standing and our ego star to a little celebration at Lubys or whatever, a dirge is sung and we do not mourn, all you gotta do is think back and try to recall any ego-diminishing going on at all then? In my experience it was all ego-building stuff, which of course after a lifetime of being neglected and basically ignored I was starved for, so I just took their word that something had just died, even though no one could tell me what and everyone looked kind of uncomfortable whenever I asked
And Bbyrd, yes, they HAVE changed faith to belief. Faith has become this (and ONLY this): believe you will live forever.
You have made sad (taken away hope) from those I didn't want to be sad and you have cried peace to those you shouldn't have.
That's my paraphrase. I can't seem to find the verse.
That's my paraphrase. I can't seem to find the verse.
“Because with lies ye have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, by promising him life: Therefore ye shall see no more vanity, nor divine divinations: for I will deliver my people out of your hand: and ye shall know that I am the Lord.” (Ezekiel 13:22–23) ????
Yes, ezekiel 13, thank you Dave!
It chills you to the bone to read it. You see it is repeating and that in deceiving, men deceive themselves ALSO, and they don't even know it.
And then I remember the prophet said, you have cheated Him by bringing blind sacrifices to the altar...should I be pleased with that?
“And if ye offer the blind for sacrifice, is it not evil? And if ye offer the lame and sick, is it not evil? Offer it now unto thy governor; Will he be pleased with thee, or accept thy person? saith the Lord of hosts.” (Malachi 1:8)
“Ye said also, Behold, what a weariness is it! And ye have snuffed at it, saith the Lord of hosts; And ye brought that which was torn, and the lame, and the sick; Thus ye brought an offering: Should I accept this of your hand? saith the Lord.” (Malachi 1:13)
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