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You believe in the death of the Lord Jesus and you believe in the death of the thieves with Him. Now what about your own death? Your crucifixion is more intimate than theirs. They were crucified at the same time as the Lord but on different crosses, whereas you were crucified on the selfsame cross as He, for you were in Him when He died. How can you know? You can know for the one sufficient reason that God said so. It does not depend on your feelings. If you feel that Christ has died, He has died; and if you do not feel that He has died, He had died. If you feel that you have died, you have died; and if you do not feel that you have died, you have nevertheless just as surely died. These are divine facts. That Christ has died is a fact, that the two thieves have died is a fact, and that you have died is a fact also. Let me tell you, You have died! You are done with! You are ruled out! The self you loathe is on the Cross of Christ. And "he that is dead is freed from sin" (Romans 6:7 Amplified). This is the Gospel for Christians.

Our crucifixion can never be made effective by will or by effort, but only by accepting what the Lord Jesus did on the Cross. Our eyes must be opened to see the finished work of Calvary. Some of you, prior to your salvation, may have tried to save yourselves. You read the Bible, prayed, went to church, gave alms. Then one day your eyes were opened and you saw that a full salvation had already been provided for you on the Cross. You just accepted that and thanked God, and peace and joy flowed into your heart. And now the good news is that sanctification is made possible for you on exactly the same basis as that initial salvation. You are offered deliverance from sin as no less a gift of God's grace than was the forgiveness of sins.

For God's way of deliverance is altogether different from man's way. Man's way is to try to suppress sin by seeking to overcome it; God's way is to remove the sinner. Many Christians mourn over their weakness, thinking that if only they were stronger all would be well. . . If we are preoccupied with the power of sin and with our inability to meet it, then we naturally conclude that to gain the victory over sin we must have more power. . .

But this is altogether a fallacy; it is not Christianity. God's means of delivering us from sin is not by making us stronger and stronger, but by making us weaker and weaker. That is surely rather a peculiar way of victory, you say; but it is the divine way. God sets us free from the dominion of sin, not by strengthening our old man but by crucifying him; not by helping him to do anything, but by removing him from the scene of action.


For years, maybe, you have tried fruitlessly to exercise control over yourself, and perhaps this is still your experience; but when once you see the truth you will recognize that you are indeed powerless to do anything, but that in setting you aside altogether God has done it all. Such discovery brings human striving and self-effort to an end (The Normal Christian Life, pp. 35-37).

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You believe in the death of the Lord Jesus and you believe in the death of the thieves with Him. Now what about your own death? Your crucifixion is more intimate than theirs. They were crucified at the same time as the Lord but on different crosses, whereas you were crucified on the selfsame cross as He, for you were in Him when He died. How can you know? You can know for the one sufficient reason that God said so. It does not depend on your feelings. If you feel that Christ has died, He has died; and if you do not feel that He has died, He had died. If you feel that you have died, you have died; and if you do not feel that you have died, you have nevertheless just as surely died. These are divine facts. That Christ has died is a fact, that the two thieves have died is a fact, and that you have died is a fact also. Let me tell you, You have died! You are done with! You are ruled out! The self you loathe is on the Cross of Christ. And "he that is dead is freed from sin" (Romans 6:7 Amplified). This is the Gospel for Christians.

Our crucifixion can never be made effective by will or by effort, but only by accepting what the Lord Jesus did on the Cross. Our eyes must be opened to see the finished work of Calvary. Some of you, prior to your salvation, may have tried to save yourselves. You read the Bible, prayed, went to church, gave alms. Then one day your eyes were opened and you saw that a full salvation had already been provided for you on the Cross. You just accepted that and thanked God, and peace and joy flowed into your heart. And now the good news is that sanctification is made possible for you on exactly the same basis as that initial salvation. You are offered deliverance from sin as no less a gift of God's grace than was the forgiveness of sins.

For God's way of deliverance is altogether different from man's way. Man's way is to try to suppress sin by seeking to overcome it; God's way is to remove the sinner. Many Christians mourn over their weakness, thinking that if only they were stronger all would be well. . . If we are preoccupied with the power of sin and with our inability to meet it, then we naturally conclude that to gain the victory over sin we must have more power. . .

But this is altogether a fallacy; it is not Christianity. God's means of delivering us from sin is not by making us stronger and stronger, but by making us weaker and weaker. That is surely rather a peculiar way of victory, you say; but it is the divine way. God sets us free from the dominion of sin, not by strengthening our old man but by crucifying him; not by helping him to do anything, but by removing him from the scene of action.


For years, maybe, you have tried fruitlessly to exercise control over yourself, and perhaps this is still your experience; but when once you see the truth you will recognize that you are indeed powerless to do anything, but that in setting you aside altogether God has done it all. Such discovery brings human striving and self-effort to an end (The Normal Christian Life, pp. 35-37).

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This truth being put forth is the truth of truth for being made free from sin… This truth once opened does all that the heart could possibly want concerning being made free from sin…..

Blessings and may we all drink deeply from this well…

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This truth being put forth is the truth of truth for being made free from sin… This truth once opened does all that the heart could possibly want concerning being made free from sin…..

Blessings and may we all drink deeply from this well…

Amen! Deliverance from sin is a gift of God's grace. He does the work in us.
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. (Ephesians 2:10)
 
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Amen! Deliverance from sin is a gift of God's grace. He does the work in us.
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. (Ephesians 2:10)

For sure!! :)

To the praise of His glory may we experience the more…

Be so very blessed in your relationship with Him, Not me
 

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God's means of delivering us from sin is not by making us stronger and stronger, but by making us weaker and weaker.
Not by making us weaker, but by making us dead, and giving us a new life, and then training us to believe that this death was real, and that our new life is also real.

You just accepted that and thanked God, and peace and joy flowed into your heart. And now the good news is that sanctification is made possible for you on exactly the same basis as that initial salvation.

Just so!

Romans 5:1-2 KJV
1) Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
2) By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

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Not by making us weaker, but by making us dead,

Each person is different. As someone raised in the church, God had to make me weaker and weaker before I could crucify the fleshly man. You see for me the biggest hang up was my mental hubris, that aspect of the human will and strength that has it all figured out... theology, philosophy, politics, etc., that keeps people arguing to and fro between two opinions of men (Ephesians 4:13)... I had to come to the point of death in this regard, by saying with Ezekiel "LORD, thou knowest", which is state of mind of being teachable.

Others who come to faith later in life reach this brokenness before they are saved, and their act of salvation incorporates this crucifying of the Old man immediately, which has in many cases led them to hit rock bottom. Many of those "old sins" leaving them for good upon being born again. But even they will have to go through the valley of doubt at some point.

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Each person is different. As someone raised in the church, God had to make me weaker and weaker before I could crucify the fleshly man. You see for me the biggest hang up was my mental hubris, that aspect of the human will and strength that has it all figured out... theology, philosophy, politics, etc., that keeps people arguing to and fro between two opinions of men (Ephesians 4:13)... I had to come to the point of death in this regard, by saying with Ezekiel "LORD, thou knowest", which is state of mind of being teachable.
God does indeed use many means to bring us to the point of trusting in Him to be reborn. And then will use many means to train us in our faith.

And if you remain stubborn, that chastening can be lengthy and grievous!

Certainly that stubbornness shows itself as people want to follow their own ways instead of God's ways. Even that, though reflects the need for the renewing of the mind, as stubbornness is fleshy, and yielding to God is spirit.

The sooner we can come to believe in the reality of our death and resurrection the sooner we can mature in the Lord.

Much love!
 
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God does indeed use many means to bring us to the point of trusting in Him to be reborn. And then will use many means to train us in our faith.

And if you remain stubborn, that chastening can be lengthy and grievous!

Certainly that stubbornness shows itself as people want to follow their own ways instead of God's ways. Even that, though reflects the need for the renewing of the mind, as stubbornness is fleshy, and yielding to God is spirit.

The sooner we can come to believe in the reality of our death and resurrection the sooner we can mature in the Lord.

Much love!

Experience being the best teacher, be blessed in being taught by experience….

Howdy Marks!… :)

To Him be our all, Not me
 
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Experience being the best teacher, be blessed in being taught by experience….

Howdy Marks!… :)

To Him be our all, Not me
I think it's better to learn from other people's experiences sometimes! But best of all is when we can believe the Bible, and not have to be corrected.

Much love!
 

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I think it's better to learn from other people's experiences sometimes! But best of all is when we can believe the Bible, and not have to be corrected.

Much love!

I hope and wish the best for you in your learning from other’s, unfortunately, I, to often have to learn the hard way…. (sad but true)… :)

Be blessed in learning the easy way, Not me
 

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I hope and wish the best for you in your learning from other’s, unfortunately, I, to often have to learn the hard way…. (sad but true)… :)

Be blessed in learning the easy way, Not me

Me too! But sometimes I can get it right! I am certain sometimes you do also.

Much love!