THE CHURCH

[David kilmer]

I like caramel or chocolate e vape.

 

[David kilmer]

Just bought one.

 

[David kilmer]

The wild berry tastes like chocolate pie.

 

[Bobby Jo]

You are probably no more of an 'expert' than Butterfly or myself or many others on here.

John Walvoord, of Dallas Theological Seminary wrote the BEST book available on the Book of Daniel, titled "Daniel, The Key To Prophetic Revelation". And what makes this book stand out from all the others is that Walvoord cites the best scholars available for a comprehensive analysis from every perspective. Now, one would think that where Deuteronomy 18:22 requires that the words of prophet have an historical fulfillment to be TRUE, this is not the case for ANY of Daniel's prophecies. In fact, the scholars offer insights into the literal text, but they can't resolve the significance. And Walvoord has all this at his fingertips, but throws it way in his conclusions.

So a simple question should come from a simple text, as proposed in Post #51. -- Does Scripture and History support and defend a FOUR or a FIVE world empire scenario?

Apparently we all have the same "giftings" and you're as much as an expert as anyone, -- including Walvoord, Young, Kiel, Kliefoth, & Montgomery (among others) so what's your answer? FOUR or FIVE? :)


Bobby Jo

 

[marksman]

The Church

Many people interpreted the scriptures to have different meanings. This is why there are so many different church denominations and doctrines.

Is Christ divided? NO. Is the "SPIRITUAL CHURCH" divided? NO.

Is man's understanding divided? YES. Are church denominations, organized by men, divided? YES.

What is Religion? It is organized groups of people professing certain religious beliefs and having a hierarchy of leadership. The leadership determines their religious beliefs based upon their interpretation of their reference book writings (the Bible or similar book) and doctrine studies.

The Jewish religion consisted of ceremonies and rituals that people performed. The people had faith (trust) that by performing these ceremonies and rituals they were doing what God wanted them to do.

But there was/is a problem with this; ** ANYONE COULD (CAN) DO THEM **. They don't require a personal commitment of the heart. They don't require a repentant, humble heart. In fact, if you think about it, most all religions in the world teach ceremonies and rituals that people must perform in order to be right with God.

Jesus taught us that God is not pleased with ceremonies and rituals.
(Ps 40:6, Ps 51:16-17, Heb 10:5-6, Heb 10:10-12) God is pleased with a humble, repentant, trusting heart (like a child). Jesus taught us that He, Jesus, wants us to know that He is alive and sits at the right hand of God ready and wanting to hear our prayers (our conversation with Him in our hearts). We must come to Him in a spirit of humility, repentance, and faith (trust), in His love and His promises. He taught us that we must worship Him in the spirit (from the heart). He taught us that if we worship in the spirit He is faithful and will hear and keep us.

There are still those that teach ceremonies and rituals and there are still those that trust in them. However, people must have a personal relationship with Jesus so that, in the Day of Judgment, Jesus will not say depart from me, I never knew you. (John 10:14 "I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own, NKJ). He will say this if they trusted in what they thought they could do in ceremonies and rituals to save them instead of going to Jesus in a personal relationship so that He can know and save them. But there are those that think a person can trust in both God and in what they can do. The Jewish nation was carried off into captivity because of this idea.

What is a Christian? A person who is personally trusting that God loves him and sent his son, Jesus Christ, into the world to die on a cross for his sins. A person that trusts God to save and keep him just as Abraham did. (Read Romans 4:1-8) A Christian is a person that has been reborn (filled) with God's Spirit "by God."

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And what is more ritualistic than the Sunday morning meeting?

"Let's do something different."

"What for? We have been doing things this way for a 100 years so there is no need to change."

 

[David kilmer]

I'm sick of this mental system. The Jews, the jews, the Jews. They're going to have a lot to learn to be in there. Whatever spirit got me to masterbate at age 12 was sick because is that a thing you do with a child? Making me do drugs in the modern time is okay kinda when your a teeb but you have to choose later on. By teen I mean about 18. You should quit it. I'm not going to hell for past sins and everything isn't rent based. If you do something know it's your fault. Quit m.

 

[David kilmer]

And what is more ritualistic than the Sunday morning meeting?

"Let's do something different."

"What for? We have been doing things this way for a 100 years so there is no need to change."

Because it's wrong.

 

[David kilmer]

John Walvoord, of Dallas Theological Seminary wrote the BEST book available on the Book of Daniel, titled "Daniel, The Key To Prophetic Revelation". And what makes this book stand out from all the others is that Walvoord cites the best scholars available for a comprehensive analysis from every perspective. Now, one would think that where Deuteronomy 18:22 requires that the words of prophet have an historical fulfillment to be TRUE, this is not the case for ANY of Daniel's prophecies. In fact, the scholars offer insights into the literal text, but they can't resolve the significance. And Walvoord has all this at his fingertips, but throws it way in his conclusions.

So a simple question should come from a simple text, as proposed in Post #51. -- Does Scripture and History support and defend a FOUR or a FIVE world empire scenario?

Apparently we all have the same "giftings" and you're as much as an expert as anyone, -- including Walvoord, Young, Kiel, Kliefoth, & Montgomery (among others) so what's your answer? FOUR or FIVE? :)


Bobby Jo

Four.

 

[David kilmer]

I'm sick of this mental system. The Jews, the jews, the Jews. They're going to have a lot to learn to be in there. Whatever spirit got me to masterbate at age 12 was sick because is that a thing you do with a child? Making me do drugs in the modern time is okay kinda when your a teeb but you have to choose later on. You should quit it. I'm not going to hell for past sins and everything isn't rent based. If you do something know it's your fault. Quit m and screw the Pulitzer prize, quit judging as your directed not to do as you too have sins sworsethan mine.

 

[David kilmer]

John Walvoord, of Dallas Theological Seminary wrote the BEST book available on the Book of Daniel, titled "Daniel, The Key To Prophetic Revelation". And what makes this book stand out from all the others is that Walvoord cites the best scholars available for a comprehensive analysis from every perspective. Now, one would think that where Deuteronomy 18:22 requires that the words of prophet have an historical fulfillment to be TRUE, this is not the case for ANY of Daniel's prophecies. In fact, the scholars offer insights into the literal text, but they can't resolve the significance. And Walvoord has all this at his fingertips, but throws it way in his conclusions.

So a simple question should come from a simple text, as proposed in Post #51. -- Does Scripture and History support and defend a FOUR or a FIVE world empire scenario?

Apparently we all have the same "giftings" and you're as much as an expert as anyone, -- including Walvoord, Young, Kiel, Kliefoth, & Montgomery (among others) so what's your answer? FOUR or FIVE? :)


Bobby Jo

I'm tired of the trolls and manipulators liars and meddlers. If your world is really that good STAY in it. Leave me the HELL alone for a change. You know I'm liking GOD.

 

[David kilmer]

Quit bearing false witness and making me in a way to act certain ways. Mischief? NO. That's discrimination

 

[David kilmer]

But you don't any more, right? We all have broken some of the ten commandments before we were saved but God doesn't count that against us now.

There's alot of things I won't do anymore. I'm more sane or at least older. I did embarrassing things as a kid and i regret it. Did I mention my nature was changed and I was like a boy at 20 god######!?

 

[David kilmer]

alone

All they do is troll me and their meetings are FALSE. Why should I love them?

 

[David kilmer]

I don't skip from being good to myselfalsely as they accuse me of. It's not blasphemy it's a balance. I love myself and God.

 

[Davy]

All this Church defining and they can't even understand what Apostle Paul was teaching in Galatians 3 about the Faith of Abraham that was 430 years before the law!

Gal 3:6-7
6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.

7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
KJV

 

[Bobby Jo]

Re-Post:

You are probably no more of an 'expert' than Butterfly or myself or many others on here.

John Walvoord, of Dallas Theological Seminary wrote the BEST book available on the Book of Daniel, titled "Daniel, The Key To Prophetic Revelation". And what makes this book stand out from all the others is that Walvoord cites the best scholars available for a comprehensive analysis from every perspective. Now, one would think that where Deuteronomy 18:22 requires that the words of prophet have an historical fulfillment to be TRUE, this is not the case for ANY of Daniel's prophecies. In fact, the scholars offer insights into the literal text, but they can't resolve the significance. And Walvoord has all this at his fingertips, but throws it way in his conclusions.

So a simple question should come from a simple text, as proposed in Post #51. -- Does Scripture and History support and defend a FOUR or a FIVE world empire scenario?

Apparently we all have the same "giftings" and you're as much as an expert as anyone, -- including Walvoord, Young, Kiel, Kliefoth, & Montgomery (among others) so what's your answer? FOUR or FIVE? :)


Bobby Jo

 

[Bobby Jo]

.. Leave me the HELL ...

You got it. And ain't nobody gonna deny that which you WANT! :)

Bobby Jo

 

[David kilmer]

You got it. And ain't nobody gonna deny that which you WANT! :)

Bobby Jo

Jo reason to go there, pal. Not much reason at all. Name some reasons then chicken.

 

[David kilmer]

I was basically planned in the beginning. Anyway I earned heaven already. Nuff said.

 

[Bobby Jo]

.. Nuff said.

Whew. I was waiting for this moment. I wonder how long it will last ...