The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

[Moriah's Song]

he sheep and goats are nations divided on earth by the Lord to begin His reign. They are not the wheat and tares divided in the resurrection of the church.

I believe the sheep are the neighborly unbelievers that do not persecute the saints on earth, nor gather with the armies to fight with the Lord.

They will replenish the earth one last time for a thousand years in the blessed kingdom of King Jesus' reign with His saints over the earth:

You too should read some of the above post of mine and Gen2REV's and other AMILLS.

 

[robert derrick]

Wrong, it has plenty of support elsewhere.

Here are corroborations of the Premill interpretation of Rev 20's "a thousand years":




Rev 2:25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

Christ speaks of them holding fast until he returns, his second coming.

Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

After the end there will be saints who have power over the nations/gentiles!


Rev 2:27 And he (each overcoming saint) shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.


So after the second coming, and after saints overcoming, and after "the end" there will be power given to the overcomers over the nations/gentiles in conjunction with a rule with a rod of iron (which breaks their organizations apart).

And of course there still needs to be a judgment day for the unsaved after this period of overcomers having "power over the nations" where there is "rule with a rod of iron".

Exactly what is found in chapters 19 and 20 of Revelation.

Same scriptures using some colored comments:


Rev 2:25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come. (Christ speaks of the second coming, also seen in Rev 19)
Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: (after the second coming the saints become overcomers, and AFTER THE END they are given power and rule over the nations/gentiles)
Rev 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

Again, proof that "the end" is not the end. There is rule over the gentile nations AFTER the second coming and AFTER the "end".




Dan 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame. (as seen in Rev 19 the second coming)
Dan 7:12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time. (as seen in Rev 20 where some of the unsaved and satan live for a period of TIME, the thousand years)


Here also is corroboration of the Millennium where after the beast is destroyed by fire (same as in Rev 19 just prior to the Millennium) there are some beasts left alive to have their lives prolonged (for a thousand years no less), which is why satan and a large number of unsaved gentiles live through the 1000 years.

Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Dan 7:26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

The beast even has 3.5 years to reign over the saints, we see the same in Rev 13 about the beast overcoming the saints and having 42 months which is the same time length.




Isa 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
Isa 2:3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
Isa 2:4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.



This predicts a period of time in this age, before the NHNE, where there shall be no more wars. This is another verse that corroborates Premill and the idea of a future period of time (the Millennium) before the NHNE that is peaceful and without war. Where in Amill can this war-less period of time exist within the latter days? Answer is, there is no room in Amill to have these verses fulfilled.


Isa 24:21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.
Isa 24:22 And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.
Isa 24:23 Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.

Again, after the second coming, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion and in Jerusalem, we see a period of time where the unsaved wicked are alive before receiving their punishment. This is again a small glimpse of the Millennium period corroborating the Premill understanding of Rev 20.

A good review of many OT prophesies that can be placed during the millennium promised in NT Scripture.

Another simple one is: The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake.

All prophesy of Scripture has spiritual teaching and fulfillment, but that does not take away from it's physical fulfillment on earth. Whether it is an historical account of the Red Sea parting, or the future fact of the Lord Himself roaring out of Zion, one was first physical and is now spiritual in deliverance from sins, and the other is first spiritual in the Lord speaking from heaven by the gospel, and will be physical on earth by Himself.

The accusation that all of millennialism is based upon one single Scripture is false, and can only be done by 'spiritualizing' Scripture away from any physical fulfillment.

To say that all the prophesies of a physical reign of Christ on earth is only spiritually fulfilled in the gospel, is the same as salvation being only spiritual within the heart, but not physically seen in the lives of believers: Being spiritually minded but no earthly good.

Just because the unbelieving Jews rejected the spiritual kingdom of Christ on earth, looking only for the promised physical reign of Messiah, does not mean there is no physical reign at all.

The verses in Rev 2 and 19 are only two Scriptures that perfectly refute any argument against Christ's reign on earth with His saints. They are not the only two Scriptures prophesying it.

It's like John 1:1 denouncing once for all any falsely created christ. But it is not the only Scripture that proves the Word, Jesus Christ was God and is the only true God, and eternal life.

The JWs tried to answer John 1:1 and failed, even as they have tried to answer Rev 19:15 here and have failed.

 

[robert derrick]

1- "You are wise not to interpret Scripture yourself." I would say that it would be wise for you to learn something about hermeneutics yourself Tim. The 144,000 is in no way those who are going to be on earth after the second coming. The ONLY time you see 144,000 mentioned is the 144,000 that are "in heaven".

The text:
Rev 14:1...Then I looked, and lo, on Mount Zion stood the Lamb, and with him[Christ] a hundred and forty-four thousand who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads. (Who are those 144,000? They are those whose name were written in the lambs book of life)

Rev 14:2...And I heard a voice from heaven like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder; the voice I heard was like the sound of harpers playing on their harps, ("from heaven" makes it clear that this scene is a heavelny scene)

Rev 14:3...and they sing a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and before the elders. No one could learn that song except the hundred and forty-four thousand ...who had been redeemed from the earth.

a) before the throne...the throne can only mean the throne that is in heaven - not on earth. (Jesus never sat on a throne on earth. Heaven is where his throne will always be.)
b) the 144,000 clearly are those who were on earth but had been redeemed from the earth and are with the Lord. (The 144,000 is a figurative number that represents the OT believers and the NT believers that are/will be "in heaven" ---- the 12 tribes + 12 apostles x 1,000 = 144,000)
c) from the earth...the redeemed "from" the earth are those "in heaven" who now sing a new song of rejoicing before the throne that is in heaven.​

Rev 14:4...It is these who have not defiled themselves with women, for they are chaste; it is these who follow the Lamb wherever he goes; these have been redeemed from mankind as first fruits for God and the Lamb,

d) the "redeemed" in heaven that follow the Lamb (Christ) are still "in heaven" and follow him wherever he goes "in heaven.​

Rev 14:5...and in their mouth no lie was found, for they are spotless. (these can only be those whose sins have been forgiven by the blood of Jesus sacrifice on the cross.) No Tim - as seen above, they are NOT the wheat or the tares that wil "be on earth during any 1,000 year millennium!

I would suggest that "You are wise not to interpret Scripture yourself. Since you have nothing to add from God's Word. Therefore, I will stick with the reading of God's Word instead of (your) human interpretation and opinion.

The 144,000 is in no way those who are going to be on earth after the second coming.

There is always one or two Scriptures that prove every doctrine of Christ, including exactly who the 144,000 are:

But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant.

They are the whole number of Old and New testament saints perfected in heaven (Heb 12:23), and they will return with the Lord to earth from the air (Rev 2).

That number cannot be numbered by man from all the tribes and churches of the Israel of God:

After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands.

But God can give them a number, which he does so in Scripture: 144,000.

The ONLY time you see 144,000 mentioned is the 144,000 that are "in heaven".

We see in Scripture how they are sealed in heaven and how they partake of the divine nature on earth.

The 144,000 are all the children of faith, beginning with righteous Abel, and concluding with them of the faith of Abraham alive and remaining at the Lord's return and resurrection of the dead in Christ.

The all have sung the new song of God as new creatures on earth (Rev 14), which song is both that of Moses and of the Lamb (Rev 15).

They are all the kind of firstfruits to God ever begotten by His Word (James 1), which He preaches on earth from heaven (Heb 12) (Rev 14), and preached to the spirits of just men in prison under the earth (1 Peter 3).

Their number is being added daily by the gospel (Acts 2) and will cease at the resurrection of the church at the last trump (1 Cor 15) (Rev 11).

The dead in Christ from Old and New Testaments are present with the Lord before His throne, and them alive on earth sit in heavenly places with them now, and in one moment they all will bodily resurrect together to meet Him in the air, and come down with Him mightily on earth to rule with rod of iron.

Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up: Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong.

Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O LORD.

Rev 7 shows how the Spirit seals the saint on earth at His command:

And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.... Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

It is during the still and quiet time of having perfect peace in the Lord, that all saints on earth are sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise:

He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.

The name of that seal of the Spirit in the forehead of the saint, is the name of the Father, the God of the Son (Rev 3), and is the circumcision of Christ, which takes away the foreskin of the heart (Rom 2).

Every elect saint in Christ Jesus follows the Lamb and true Shepherd whithersoever He goeth without guile (John 10) (1 Peter 3), and in the end is presented faultless as a chaste virgin to God in heaven (Jude 24) (2 Cor 11).

Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

Being a physical virgin has no more honor and commendation to God than being a faithfully married husband and wife, nor does being a male as opposed to being a female:

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

When all Scripture is accounted for and applied together in one teaching, it becomes simple:

The 144,000 are all the tribes and churches of God present in heaven and alive on earth, that ever live by his faith:

For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named.

Part are present with the Lord in heaven now, and part sit with them in heavenly places while yet on earth, and they all will have part in the resurrection of the blessed at the moment of the Lord's return to earth, to come down with His might and power to reign for a thousand years with rod of iron.

There is only one body of Christ, whether from days of old or new, and each member in particular is equally the same as any other, with no distinction of God nor division by God made between any one or the other: they will all be the Israel of God together at one time in the air and then on earth, and finally forever in the new heaven and new earth.

 

[Truth7t7]

A good review of many OT prophesies that can be placed during the millennium promised in NT Scripture.

Another simple one is: The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake.

All prophesy of Scripture has spiritual teaching and fulfillment, but that does not take away from it's physical fulfillment on earth. Whether it is an historical account of the Red Sea parting, or the future fact of the Lord Himself roaring out of Zion, one was first physical and is now spiritual in deliverance from sins, and the other is first spiritual in the Lord speaking from heaven by the gospel, and will be physical on earth by Himself.

The accusation that all of millennialism is based upon one single Scripture is false, and can only be done by 'spiritualizing' Scripture away from any physical fulfillment.

To say that all the prophesies of a physical reign of Christ on earth is only spiritually fulfilled in the gospel, is the same as salvation being only spiritual within the heart, but not physically seen in the lives of believers: Being spiritually minded but no earthly good.

Just because the unbelieving Jews rejected the spiritual kingdom of Christ on earth, looking only for the promised physical reign of Messiah, does not mean there is no physical reign at all.

The verses in Rev 2 and 19 are only two Scriptures that perfectly refute any argument against Christ's reign on earth with His saints. They are not the only two Scriptures prophesying it.

It's like John 1:1 denouncing once for all any falsely created christ. But it is not the only Scripture that proves the Word, Jesus Christ was God and is the only true God, and eternal life.

The JWs tried to answer John 1:1 and failed, even as they have tried to answer Rev 19:15 here and have failed.

Fact is, a Millennial Kingdom on this earth is found no place in scripture, it's a fabricated fairy tale of man

Jesus Christ returns In fire and final judgement, dissolving this earth by fire (The End)

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

 

[Moriah's Song]

at the moment of the Lord's return to earth, to come down with His might and power to reign for a thousand years

There is no space for a thousand year reign on this earth or any of the other events which are speculated to occur on or around the judgment. Time does not have the same meaning to us as it does to the eternal God.

1. Jesus' second coming could be at any time and we should always be ready for it.
2. Jesus' imminent physical recognition (presence) will be signaled by the voice of an archangel and the trumpet of heaven. It will be an event that is obvious to all people on the earth.
3. Jesus will appear in the clouds.
4. This will be followed almost immediately by a general resurrection of both the just and the unjust.
5. The righteous dead will be caught up with Jesus in the air, after which those saved who are still alive will also be caught up; this, by definition, will be a separation of the saved from the lost, who will remain on the earth.
6. The righteous will live with Jesus, His father and the Holy Spirit forever in heaven.
7. The lost will be cast alive into the lake of fire where they will ever be doomed with the devil and his angels.

Here Paul addresses their misperceptions with regard to the timing of the coming of the Lord (2 Thes. 2:1-12):

"Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth [will let], until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."​

Consider the following points with regard to this passage:

1. Paul was concerned that they would be "shaken in mind" and "troubled" because of the delay in Jesus' coming that they were not anticipating.
2. Prior to Jesus' coming there would be "a falling away first..." Paul goes on to describe the apostasy in detail. It is clear that events which coincide with these details occurred during the dark ages. The reformation was an attempt to overcome the domination of this evil.
3. The evil that produced the falling away was already beginning to take its toll. There seems to be a withholding by God to allow the entire New Testament to be revealed. After that the falling away would come.
4. "And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming ..." This is the same single coming that has been described in all of the scriptures that we have cited in this chapter.
5. The verses that follow are quite enlightening, and they explain much about our current situation. He states that the evil one "... is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish ..." The fact that powers, signs and wonders (the three words used to describe miracles in the New Testament) might exist is no guarantee that the one who performs them is from God. Why would God allow such powerful deception? ...

"... because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."​

If this is not frightening to you, you should be gravely concerned. It was Paul's intent to instill within them the knowledge that just because a person is totally convinced of something does not make it reality. The only reliable standard is the eternal word of God.

"And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming ..." ​

This is the same single coming that has been described in all of the scriptures that we have cited in this chapter.

One last thought about "a thousand." In Psa 50:10 God says...

"For every beast of the forest is mine, the cattle on a thousand hills."​

Now, do you really take God literally when he says that he has cattle "on a thousand hills" somewhere in Israel?

 

[ewq1938]

Fact is, a Millennial Kingdom on this earth is found no place in scripture, it's a fabricated fairy tale of man

Wrong. It's in Revelation 20 and elsewhere as has been shown. You also don't seem to know your own doctrine. Amillennialists often say things like there is no Millennium or there is no thousand years or that there is no such thing as an Earthly rule. That's isn't actually what Amillennialism teaches. Amillennialists believe in a thousand years on the Earth. They believe it's happening now and has been for a long time. They believe Christ rules the Earth from heaven with the dead saints, and living saints are ruling with Christ now upon the Earth. The truth is they aren't actually ruling at all, it's 100 percent imaginary and Christ is also not ruling the Earth. Wicked men rule this world helped by satan whether they realize it or not. Christ will return and literally rule, a real rule, over the people of this world. We are still waiting for that glorious day.

 

[ewq1938]

Jesus' second coming could be at any time and we should always be ready for it.

Wrong. Paul said the apostasy and the revealing of the man of sin have to happen first.

This will be followed almost immediately by a general resurrection of both the just and the unjust.

Also wrong. Revelation 20 says the dead saints will live again first and the rest of the dead live not again until the thousand years were finished so there is a thousand years inbetween the two resurrections.

The righteous dead will be caught up with Jesus in the air, after which those saved who are still alive will also be caught up; this, by definition, will be a separation of the saved from the lost, who will remain on the earth.
The righteous will live with Jesus, His father and the Holy Spirit forever in heaven.

This is also wrong. the righteous live on the Earth with the Father and Son. No one is taken to heaven at the rapture.

 

[Moriah's Song]

Also wrong. Revelation 20 says the dead saints will live again first and the rest of the dead live not again until the thousand years were finished so there is a thousand years inbetween the two resurrections.

Rev 20:4...Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom judgment was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony to Jesus and for the word of God, and who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life, and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Rev 20:5...The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection.

Mat 27:52...the tombs also were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised,
Mat 27:53...and coming out of the tombs after his resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many.
​

52 is definitely a literal resurrection of dead saints.
53 - Where did they go? Many say "into Jerusalem." However, that cannot be because of the term "the holy city." The "holy city is a reference to the "heavenly Jerusalem."
Also, although it does not specifically say what happened to them after Christ resurrected them from their graves, it is realistic to say that they went to heaven after Jesus was raised from the dead and ascended into heaven.

This is a magnificent example of what will happen on Judgment Day.

 

[ewq1938]

52 is definitely a literal resurrection of dead saints.
53 - Where did they go? Many say "into Jerusalem." However, that cannot be because of the term "the holy city." The "holy city is a reference to the "heavenly Jerusalem."

No, it's a reference to Earthly Jerusalem. Other people saw them in the city.

 

[Moriah's Song]

No, it's a reference to Earthly Jerusalem. Other people saw them in the city.

WRONG!!!! I did an extensive study on Matthew 27. key words point to the Holy City / the New Jerusalem.

Earthy Jerusalem was by no means a Holy City at the time of Christ or he would not have it demolished in 70 a.D.

 

[Truth7t7]

Wrong. It's in Revelation 20 and elsewhere as has been shown. You also don't seem to know your own doctrine. Amillennialists often say things like there is no Millennium or there is no thousand years or that there is no such thing as an Earthly rule. That's isn't actually what Amillennialism teaches. Amillennialists believe in a thousand years on the Earth. They believe it's happening now and has been for a long time. They believe Christ rules the Earth from heaven with the dead saints, and living saints are ruling with Christ now upon the Earth. The truth is they aren't actually ruling at all, it's 100 percent imaginary and Christ is also not ruling the Earth. Wicked men rule this world helped by satan whether they realize it or not. Christ will return and literally rule, a real rule, over the people of this world. We are still waiting for that glorious day.

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

[Truth7t7]

Wrong. It's in Revelation 20 and elsewhere as has been shown. You also don't seem to know your own doctrine. Amillennialists often say things like there is no Millennium or there is no thousand years or that there is no such thing as an Earthly rule. That's isn't actually what Amillennialism teaches. Amillennialists believe in a thousand years on the Earth. They believe it's happening now and has been for a long time. They believe Christ rules the Earth from heaven with the dead saints, and living saints are ruling with Christ now upon the Earth. The truth is they aren't actually ruling at all, it's 100 percent imaginary and Christ is also not ruling the Earth. Wicked men rule this world helped by satan whether they realize it or not. Christ will return and literally rule, a real rule, over the people of this world. We are still waiting for that glorious day.

Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming

If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign

Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.

Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle

(Revelation) 20:1-9KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

(Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event

(Revelation) 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

 

[Truth7t7]

Wrong. It's in Revelation 20 and elsewhere as has been shown. You also don't seem to know your own doctrine. Amillennialists often say things like there is no Millennium or there is no thousand years or that there is no such thing as an Earthly rule. That's isn't actually what Amillennialism teaches. Amillennialists believe in a thousand years on the Earth. They believe it's happening now and has been for a long time. They believe Christ rules the Earth from heaven with the dead saints, and living saints are ruling with Christ now upon the Earth. The truth is they aren't actually ruling at all, it's 100 percent imaginary and Christ is also not ruling the Earth. Wicked men rule this world helped by satan whether they realize it or not. Christ will return and literally rule, a real rule, over the people of this world. We are still waiting for that glorious day.

There are (Two) resurrections on this (Last Day) the righteous are blessed to be in the (First Resurrection) to eternal life, on such the (Second Death) resurrection has no power.

1.) (First Resurrection) To Life
2.) (Second Death) Resurrection To Damnation

Revelation 20:6KJV
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

The (Last Day) Resurrection And Final Judgement Of All Below

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The (Last Day) Judgement

John 12:48KJV
48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

 

[ewq1938]

WRONG!!!! I did an extensive study on Matthew 27. key words point to the Holy City / the New Jerusalem.

You are the one who is wrong.

Mat_4:5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,

The bible calls Jerusalem the holy city at the time Christ was there.

 

[ewq1938]

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived

Yes there is. Don't be deceived.

 

[ewq1938]

There are (Two) resurrections on this (Last Day) the righteous are blessed to be in the (First Resurrection) to eternal life, on such the (Second Death) resurrection has no power.

1.) (First Resurrection) To Life
2.) (Second Death) Resurrection To Damnation

Revelation 20 says there is a thousand years inbetween the two resurrection days.

 

[Truth7t7]

WRONG!!!! I did an extensive study on Matthew 27. key words point to the Holy City / the New Jerusalem.

Earthy Jerusalem was by no means a Holy City at the time of Christ or he would not have it demolished in 70 a.D.

Dont get frustrated, there are posters that disregard clear scripture

 

[ewq1938]

Earthy Jerusalem was by no means a Holy City at the time of Christ or he would not have it demolished in 70 a.D.

Wrong. The Romans had it destroyed, not Jesus.

 

[Moriah's Song]

Wrong. The Romans had it destroyed, not Jesus.

To put it simply, Rome destroyed the Temple (and ransacked Jerusalem) in A.D. 70 because Jesus prophesied that the Temple would be destroyed. As Jesus was coming into Jerusalem shortly before He was to be betrayed and sent to trial, Luke writes that:

Now as He drew near, He saw the city and wept over it, saying, “If you had known, even you, especially in this your day, the things that make for your peace! But now they are hidden from your eyes. For days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment around you, surround you and close you in on every side, and level you, and your children within you, to the ground; and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not know the time of your visitation” (Luke 19:41-44.

Luke 19:41-44...And when he drew near and saw the city he wept over it, saying, "Would that even today you knew the things that make for peace! But now they are hid from your eyes. For the days shall come upon you, when your enemies will cast up a bank about you and surround you, and hem you in on every side, and dash you to the ground, you and your children within you, and they will not leave one stone upon another in you; because you did not know the time of your visitation."​

While it is true that Jesus did not specifically say that Rome would destroy the Temple, He didn’t need to. The Jewish scholars attributed the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem as punishment from God for the “baseless” hatred that pervaded Jewish society at the time. Many Jews in despair are thought to have abandoned Judaism for some version of paganism, many others sided with the growing Christian sect within Judaism.

 

[Moriah's Song]

Dont get frustrated, there are posters that disregard clear scripture

People end up twisting scripture because they went to scripture to find verses that support their pre-conceived views on pre-millennialism or dispensationalism rather than taking God's Word for what it actually says. One word for it though is "indoctrination."

2 Timothy 4:3-4 - For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

2 Peter 3:16 - As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Romans 16:17-20 - Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.​

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 - And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.​

1 Timothy 4:1 - Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;​

Revelation 22:18-19 - For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:​