The Chosen

[marks]

@marks be like: nothing in the Bible says Jesus will return with wings to give stigmata. Or nothing in the Bible says cherubs have beards or take on stigmata to give to others. This makes it a lie and poison, etc. LOL

There's no need to tag me for this sort of post. I think we're at the point where you are going to have both sides of the conversation, so I'll hand it over to you. Enjoy!

Much love!

 

[quietthinker]

There is no trial, no jury, no witnesses and lawyers and charges. Just stand face to face with Him. I like CS Lewis' idea, something like, Either you will shrink from Him in horror or rush to Him enrapt in love.

And everyone will in fact stand face to face with Him. All that will matter are His charges against those whom He is judging.

God already showed between Himself and Satan through Job. God proved He knew man, not Satan, that God was right, not Satan.

This isn't a legal thriller, it's a love story.

Much love!

Here's something to consider marks....
A third of the angels sided with Lucifer and so did the inhabitants of Earth.....God allowed them , he didn't resist.
What do you think would have happened had all the angels and other Worlds sided with Lucifer?

 

[marks]

Here's something to consider marks....
A third of the angels sided with Lucifer and so did the inhabitants of Earth.....God allowed them , he didn't resist.
What do you think would have happened had all the angels and other Worlds sided with Lucifer?

Yes, that's really interesting, and amazing, 1/3 (or so it seems) fell with Satan, while the remainder didn't. We ask the same thing as the Calvinists, why this one, and not that one? How can this be? We can only speculate.

As for other worlds I believe we are the one world of people whom God created.

The inhabitants of the earth? All in Adam died. Humanity disobeyed God when Humanity existed in two people. Nonetheless we all in Adam die. Just as when we become 'in Christ' we are all made alive.

God allowed Adam to fall. Have you ever wondered why? Since we're speculating and all, right?

And it's my thread! ;-)

Only God is intrinsically and fully good. All that is not God is less than God. Any goodness is imparted to us, and not intrinsic to us, in the way that goodness is intrinsic to God.

God could stabilize His creation, preventing Adam's fall, by determining all that will occur within it. But if I'm right, and what God is really doing is gathering a family who love Him because they want to, then He has to allow them to choose that or not.

So He gives alternatives, and allows us to choose. But that means there is opportunity to make the wrong choice and make a mess of it all. How long before the fall? To me, it seems it would be inevitable.

God, knowing all things, knowing what would be every outcome of every manner of creation, created this creation, knowing what it would mean. Allowing real choice means to allow real consequence. God knew that in order to secure His family within such a context, that He'd have to provide for that real consequence, while rescuing His family away from that.

And so He came into the earth, the One Who cannot be hurt by death, the only One with immortal life in and of Himself. He took on a body that could die, and He picked the time and place when it would be inevitable that in this body He would be nailed to a cross to die.

He did this because the consequences of those wrong choices were death, and God did not want us dead. So He died a death but survived unscathed, because He has life in Himself.

And by sharing in that death, we have the consequence of our sin - we've died. But it's a death we can survive, because we are carried through it in Christ, our Ark. Our new life is His life living in us.

In our resurrection, and in the new creation, He will have His family who loves Him because they want to, and His creation will be stabilized, His Spirit in us preserving us forever in all righteousness and holiness.

Much love!

 

[quietthinker]

God allowed Adam to fall. Have you ever wondered why? Since we're speculating and all, right?

Didn't you say it's a love story? Love doesn't coerce.

 

[marks]

Didn't you say it's a love story? Love doesn't coerce.

Right. That was my point.

Much love!

 

[quietthinker]

There is no trial, no jury, no witnesses and lawyers and charges

The inhabitants of the Universe are witnesses singing 'you are worthy' (Revelation 4:11, 5:9-10, 7:11-12)
Why do they sing this? What is the backdrop that motivates this exuberance?

 

[quietthinker]

Right. That was my point.

Much love!

In that case I would ask you to join the dots well.

 

[Hepzibah]

I don't know. I came back after a weekend and he was gone. Profile gone, nothing. I tried emailing him but no answer. He's very dear to me, I'm certain I've failed to express to him how much. As are you, just saying, that is, dear to me.

Much love!

I .miss him too. I logged in one morning to see he had registered a new account with his full name, asking why his old account had disappeared. Then next thing l knew, he was gone, as you say, with nothing, no profile. I think he knew marks, and that he thought the same about you.

 

[marks]

I .miss him too. I logged in one morning to see he had registered a new account with his full name, asking why his old account had disappeared. Then next thing l knew, he was gone, as you say, with nothing, no profile. I think he knew marks, and that he thought the same about you.

Then I think he was banned for reasons I don't know. That's distressing to think! They'd ban him and allow those they do?
SMH

Much love!

 

[marks]

In that case I would ask you to join the dots well.

Just to say, if you ever decide to share what's on your mind, feel free. Communicate at will. :-)

Much love!

 

[NotTheRock]

What do you perceive the 'mission' of Jesus to ultimately be?

To figure out who exactly he's going to torture forever in Hell.

 

[NotTheRock]

What do you think the reason is that God made man?

To forever torture those that he is incapable of persuading to follow him.

 

[NotTheRock]

I just finished watching season 4. I enjoy the program but I very much dislike many of the "artistic liberties" that they take. For example (SPOILER ALERT) they invested a lot of time on a relationship between Thomas and a girlfriend follower of Jesus who is subsequently killed and whom Jesus refuses to save and then it goes into Thomas's anger and bitterness. And then they have detailed discussions between Jesus and religious leaders that are nowhere in the scriptures. Essentially they have created SIGNIFICANT events that never occurred.

Overall, however, I have enjoyed the series but it could have been done even better.

 

[marks]

To forever torture those that he is incapable of persuading to follow him.

I guess you're a "glass half empty" kind of person?

Much love!

 

[marks]

I just finished watching season 4. I enjoy the program but I very much dislike many of the "artistic liberties" that they take. For example (SPOILER ALERT) they invested a lot of time on a relationship between Thomas and a girlfriend follower of Jesus who is subsequently killed and whom Jesus refuses to save and then it goes into Thomas's anger and bitterness. And then they have detailed discussions between Jesus and religious leaders that are nowhere in the scriptures. Essentially they have created SIGNIFICANT events that never occurred.

Overall, however, I have enjoyed the series but it could have been done even better.

My problem with this storyline is that it expressly states that Jesus heal ALL who came to Him for healing, and to present a "Jesus" who refuses to heal, to me that is foundation level. That's a different "Jesus".

Much love!

 

[quietthinker]

To figure out who exactly he's going to torture forever in Hell.

Oh nooo, is this the message you have been exposed to under the name of Saviour?

 

[AngelicArcher]

I've come across various people who have ended up with mistaken ideas after watching The Chosen.

One person I know thought that Peter had ongoing tax issues with Rome. Scripture makes mention of Peter paying taxes, and no mention of him not.

Another person I know that that Nicodemas tried and failed to cast 7 demons out of Mary Magdeline. No, nothing in the Bible about that.

Another thought that the Samaritan leper regrew his missing fingers, while the other 9 did not. Scripture says all were cleansed, and adds nothing more than that.

One of the episodes I happened to see a small portion of portrayed the wedding in Cana as Jesus turns the water into wine, after His mother talks Him into it, after the show Thomas to be doubtful. There is all this back and forth, Leave the room, and Jesus dips His hand into the water become wine, letting it spill through His fingers.

John 2:5-9 KJV
5) His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it.
6) And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece.
7) Jesus saith unto them, Fill the waterpots with water. And they filled them up to the brim.
8) And he saith unto them, Draw out now, and bear unto the governor of the feast. And they bare it.
9) When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew;) the governor of the feast called the bridegroom,

These stories sit in people's minds, affecting what they think the Bible says.

A little leaven leavens the whole lump. And The Chosen demonstrates this truth.

I've not watched much of this show at all, only to get a sense of what it is. It's fiction couched in Biblical frames, and poisons the mind. Do you think God is pleased when people tell lies about His Son, and the things He did?

Are there other scenes in this series that are unbiblical? What are they?

Much love!

I've only watched a brief snippet ,a short, on You Tube. There's also a thread here that talks about the Chosen abrogating scripture so to portray a Disciple experiencing a wet dream. Ostensibly based on scripture relating the spilling of a man's seed.

For me,it's just another effort to corrupt the image of the teachings in Scripture.

Just as with the Russell Crowe movie,Noah. Extra Biblical nonsense was added to that as well.

Christian Bale starred as Moses in the Ridley Scott film, Exodus: Gods and Kings.
It culminated in telling viewers Moses,who had fallen while seeking out a lost sheep in the rocks,after his departure from his position as Prince of Egypt, and suffered brain damage.

Everything after this, his journey to Pharaoh demanding he let God's people go,and so forth,was implied to be a delusion. God didn't ask this of Moses. His brain damage led him to hallucinate and imagine this was all God's leading.

It was all foretold in Scripture though.

2Peter 2:1
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.


It's not unique,what's happening with the LDS screenplay of The Chosen. It is just another example of the Enemy leading people from God's truth.

The, He Gets Us campaign, is another such example.

We thwart this demonic effort by not being its consumers.

Especially important with regard to the LDS project, The Chosen. Because the whole series is crowd funded. If the public doesn't donated the money the series folds.