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Do you mean that God spoke through Jesus?..Wherefore why would Jesus have needed to prepare a speech?

As he already knew that his Father was going to speak through him..
He could have. Like he told us to do when taken before the authorities. As he could depend on the Spirit to help for anything.

"But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost"

Or God could have spoken to him in advance and depended on him to remember exactly what to say. Either way what is written in John 12:49-50 would be satisfied.
 

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To keep it real, some prayers are answered ‘No.’
It was a big deal in the Bible, that Jesus healed everyone. No one left out.

Imagine for a moment . . . an ancient land with very limited medical care. Thousands sick and dying, crippled, Jesus healed the all! No one could deny the works Jesus did, because He healed them all.

But, maybe some don't care about this amazing truth, and will feel free to tell it differently.

Be it on their own heads.

Much love!
 

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To keep it real, some prayers are answered ‘No.’
God, doesn’t heal everyone today does he?

I am walking in faith that he will heal my AF....he hasn’t Of yet, I do believe he will either heal it....or show me what can trigger it and bring it on..

He has sent me to quite a few doctors/ specialists.....it could be caused by medication...were trying that out at the moment.
 

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God, doesn’t heal everyone today does he?

I am walking in faith that he will heal my AF....he hasn’t Of yet, I do believe he will either heal it....or show me what can trigger it and bring it on..

He has sent me to quite a few doctors/ specialists.....it could be caused by medication...were trying that out at the moment.

Not everyone who claims to be a Christian, is going to tell you that God still heals.
Many Christians who can't pray, dont pray.. or dont believe in it.. will try to put restrictions on God.
But the fact is, God wants to heal.....its His Joy...........to heal and help His Children......and in fact its God's own will that He answers our prayers.

Just keep holding unto God, and keep your faith alive.

God is good all the time.
 
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It's more like Jesus used Matthew to help him organize his thoughts and consider how certain words would make the impact intended.
Matthew, the Holy-Spirit-Helper. No, Jesus didn't speak as His Father commanded Him, Jesus had Matthew to help.

The more I hear, the more I dislike this show.

Much love!
 

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Right, but you contradict Scripture in saying God cannot prepare a speech.
He never said that! That's a false characterization of what actually happened.

Hmm.

Where have I heard that before?

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Where is the scripture that God wrights' speeches?
John 12:49 KJV
For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

God told Jesus what to say. Which means they didn't "work it out beforehand" between Jesus and the guys.

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Matthew, the Holy-Spirit-Helper. No, Jesus didn't speak as His Father commanded Him, Jesus had Matthew to help.

The more I hear, the more I dislike this show.

Much love!

Ive personally never watched an episode.
But the best Christian i personally have ever known.. a sister in the Lord....loved this show, and sat through season 4, even tho it was making them very sad, to realize that Hyper Calvinism had taken over "The Chosen".

What they told me, is that the 1st 2 Seasons, are amazing......and have none of this false doctrine in it.......so, those are safe to enjoy.....but once Jesus refuses to heal the cripple...(Little James) in Season 3.. then .. just stop watching it, as it went to hell, theologically.... from that point.
 

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The issue is that Jesus was writing and revising the speech in the Chosen. But he was told exactly what to say, like is mentioned in John 12:49-50, so revisions should not have been necessary.

The way I imagine it happened in real life is Jesus was completely unprepared for the speech. The disciples had no clue what he was going to say until he said it. He might not have even known what he was going to say in advance.
The complete total walk of faith.

Much love!
 

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John 12:49 KJV
For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

God told Jesus what to say. Which means they didn't "work it out beforehand" between Jesus and the guys.

Much love!
I posted that on #47
 
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My sister, she wouldn't watch any movies at all about Jesus, choosing instead that her understanding of Jesus come straight from the Bible, Bible only.

It really is a narrow way, how best do we stay on that way?

Much love!
stay in the bible and learn it well . There is nothing in that bible that leads one astray .
TRUTH is loaded in them pages .
Its men and their thoughts that must be tested .
The bible itself is a pure and lovely book . I cant stress enough the importance for all to learn it well .
 
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What do you think Dallas Jenkins' goal is? What is he doing? His dad did the same thing, introduced changes to the Bible story, even to the point of portraying someone being forgiven for receiving the mark of the beast, the mark disappearing.

Do you know the saying, "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree"?

Much love!
What they do is a try and put a humanistic view upon it .
They will even humanize JESUS wrong . They do this to down tone things .
And as you well said stuff just gets worse and worse .
If anyone has really read the gospels and scrips well
They would see a whole other image of JESUS and even often of the apostels and prophets .
What we see many doing is trying to down tone things , alter things
change things to create a different image of the aposetls , OF EVEN JESUS and of THE FATHER HIMSELF .
The apple dont far very far at all from the tree .
 

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John 12:49 KJV
For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

God told Jesus what to say. Which means they didn't "work it out beforehand" between Jesus and the guys.

Much love!
I have heard some outright blasphemies in my lifetime .
I heard a man trying to say that JESUS and the FATHER even argued and talked it out about
HOW they would do things . God dont argue with himself , with HIS word , with HIS SPIRIT .
GOD IS HIS WORD , IS HIS SPIRIT , HE IS TRUTH , HE IS LIFE
As is the SON , as is the SPIRIT .
I am the LIFE
I AM the ressurection .
I AM the TRUTH
People act like JESUS had to save GOD from himself . Things are totally nuts these days .
 

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The complete total walk of faith.

Much love!
YES . very true my friend . so allow me a few questions and reminders .
HOW can one have FAITH if they BELEIVE NOT what GOD says .
CAUSE , well the last time i checked when GOD SPOKE , Abraham BELIEVED .
TIS impossible to have FAITH IN GOD
if one beleives NOT the TESTMONY that HE GAVE OF THE SON . in fact john says THEY CALL GOD A LIAR .
so good bye all other religoins cause THEY DONT BELIEVE THE TESTIMONY GOD gave OF THE SON .
Number two .
HOW can a man have faith IN JESUS
IF a man believes NOT HIS WORDS . and again , THEY DONT . now i am very very worried for this generation .
My desire is ONLY GOOD for the peoples . WE must return as a child to the FAITH one had at first
to the LOVE one had at first . PUT GOD CHRIST FIRST , loving THE TRUTH of HIS EVERY WORD .
BEIEVING HIM and not men who twist HIS words .
JUST a child BELEIVE . understanding cometh in time . BUT FIRST WE MUST BLEIEVE HIS WORDS . if not
ONLY WRONG understanding shall come .
 
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Didn't Thaddeus have a limp, Paul a thorn in his side, Timothy have an upset stomach?
they did . paul had that thorn to keep him humble . he explains it well .
Timothy did have infirmites and etc .
AND this is very very important as well , always keep in mind interfaith is of anti christ .
 

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Didn't Thaddeus have a limp, Paul a thorn in his side, Timothy have an upset stomach?
I'll repeat myself for your benefit. According to the Bible, forget about the chosen, we're talking about what really happened, Jesus healed all who came to Him. This communicated something about Him, and The Chosen puts that on the chopping block, because Dallas Jenkins felt like it.

Much love!
 
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