rebuilder 454
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You may as well talk to a telephone pole as to talk with these Bible torturers.
I never seen such Bible butchery in my entire life.
Jehovah witness hamster wheel Bible butchers come to mind.
SMH.
The absurdity of Pretrib logic
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I never seen such Bible butchery in my entire life.
Jehovah witness hamster wheel Bible butchers come to mind.
SMH.
Spiritual Israelite
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How am I lying exactly? You gave 4 or 5 verses that you didn't exegete at all. What good is that? That is useless and contributes nothing to the discussion. Anyone can just list some verses without any commentary on them. What does that prove? Nothing. The fact that you don't even attempt to exegete any scripture and show exactly how and why you interpret it the way you do says it all about you. You can't be taken seriously because of that.
Spiritual Israelite
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Yet, you do NOTHING to show how we are supposedly butchering the Bible. You do NOTHING to back up your claims. And you think you should be taken seriously? Think again. LOL. Such a joke.
He said "I see a lot of insults, put-downs, name-calling" and you respond with calling us "Bible torturers" and compare us to the Jehovah's witnesses cult. LOL. You have no self awareness whatsoever.
Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christians. Do you believe Amils are not Christians then? Even though we believe Jesus Christ is our Great God and Savior?
rebuilder 454
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To Everyone talking to the Amil tag team here, this is THE mess you are talking to
From google
"Amillennialism is a Christian eschatological view that rejects the idea of a thousand-year reign of the righteous on Earth before or after Jesus Christ's second coming. Instead, it interprets the "thousand years" in Revelation 20 as a symbol for a long, undefined period of time, such as the age of the New Testament church. Amillennialists believe that the "binding of Satan" took place during Jesus' ministry on Earth, when God restrained Satan so that the good news of salvation could be spread. They also believe that this "restraining order" is still in effect today as the gospel continues to be shared. "
So much for trusting the ancient dead church fathers.
They are amil robots mindlessly trolling all that challenge them.
Post verses that challenge their deal.
The response is blatant lying. " You don't backup anything with verses"
SMH
From google
"Amillennialism is a Christian eschatological view that rejects the idea of a thousand-year reign of the righteous on Earth before or after Jesus Christ's second coming. Instead, it interprets the "thousand years" in Revelation 20 as a symbol for a long, undefined period of time, such as the age of the New Testament church. Amillennialists believe that the "binding of Satan" took place during Jesus' ministry on Earth, when God restrained Satan so that the good news of salvation could be spread. They also believe that this "restraining order" is still in effect today as the gospel continues to be shared. "
So much for trusting the ancient dead church fathers.
They are amil robots mindlessly trolling all that challenge them.
Post verses that challenge their deal.
The response is blatant lying. " You don't backup anything with verses"
SMH
rebuilder 454
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You have to wonder, how in the world can anybody screw up the placement of the millennium. Of all the things to get wrong , that seems like the most awkward thing in the world to screw up
Spiritual Israelite
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More lies. We don't say that you don't reference any verses, we say that you don't back up your doctrine by exegeting scripture, which is true. You don't show how and why you interpret the verses you reference the way you do. Why not? Just referencing verses proves nothing. You are embarrassing yourself with this nonsense and your constant lies.
Amillennialism emphasizes the CURRENT kingship of our King, the Great God and Savior of the world. But, you act like we are some kind of cult. What cult tries to emphasize the current kingship of Jesus Christ as the God and King of the universe? The King of kings and Lord of lords! We simply believe what Jesus said about Himself.
Matthew 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. 17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. 18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Since Jesus Himself said He was reigning as King over all of heaven and earth after His resurrection, we should understand that any scripture which talks about Him reigning relates to what He has been doing since His resurrection.
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Spiritual Israelite
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You have to wonder, how in the world can anybody screw up the timing of the reign of Jesus Christ as King when scripture explicitly tells us that He has been reigning since His resurrection from the dead.
Matthew 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. 17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. 18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Ephesians 1:19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, 20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, 21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: 22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, 23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
Colossians 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: 13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
Revelation 1:5 and from Jesus Christ, who IS the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, 6 and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father—to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.
You normally make Pretrib statements. That is the foundation of your position. When you quote Scripture and force a false meaning on it, you cannot address the rebuttals.
You have nothing biblical to prove your error, thus your frustration and ad hominem.
When you fail to see the recaps in Revelation we will not grasp Revelation 20. When you throw out biblical corroborate, you can easily embrace Premil.
rebuilder 454
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Pretribbers, Living rent free in amil adherents minds.
We inflict torment, just by them reading what we believe.
Ok
Got it.
We inflict torment, just by them reading what we believe.
Ok
Got it.
rebuilder 454
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From
Foundationoflife.com
"The only way Amillennialism can be accepted and perpetuated is by persuading Christian disciples through indoctrination in church or cemetery, I mean seminary. I repeat, believers would never see Amillennialism or accept it by merely reading/studying their Bibles. However, once disciples accept the idea that Amillennialism is unquestionable orthodoxy their studies of the scriptures will naturally be tainted and biased by their acceptance of this false doctrine; in other words, they’ll read the scriptures pre-supposing Amillennialism to be true, not freely or at face value, as is natural."
We can see the futility of any meaninful or thoughtful conversation with those indoctrinated in their amil doctrine.
Lord have mercy.
Foundationoflife.com
"The only way Amillennialism can be accepted and perpetuated is by persuading Christian disciples through indoctrination in church or cemetery, I mean seminary. I repeat, believers would never see Amillennialism or accept it by merely reading/studying their Bibles. However, once disciples accept the idea that Amillennialism is unquestionable orthodoxy their studies of the scriptures will naturally be tainted and biased by their acceptance of this false doctrine; in other words, they’ll read the scriptures pre-supposing Amillennialism to be true, not freely or at face value, as is natural."
We can see the futility of any meaninful or thoughtful conversation with those indoctrinated in their amil doctrine.
Lord have mercy.
LOL. More projection. The opposite is the truth.
We are seeing the death throes of Pretrib here. It has been solidly dismantled. You have no defence!
rebuilder 454
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When I got saved back in 1976 it was into an amil Fellowship. I knew basically zero about the Bible. After talking to them concerning eschatology I started studying the Bible on my own. I am so thankful that I did not end up like these amils. What a horrible trap and the torment that they go through just by us believing something different.
Yaa-dee-daa-dee-daa. You have clearly run out of arguments when you have to run to Pretrib to support your ad hominem.
Really? And you are yet to show one prooftext for Pretrib. I rest my case!
In Revelation 12:7-12, Satan is cast down to earth as the seventh trumpet third woe to the inhabiters of the earth having great wrath knowing his time is short - the time/times/half time of Revelation 12:17.
So how can Satan currently be in the bottomless pit, if he is cast down to earth in Revelation 12:7-12 ?
Also, that Satan is not presently imprisoned in the bottomless pit is proved by....
1Perter5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
CadyandZoe
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I am here to challenge your assumptions. I see nothing wrong with that.
This is called hijacking the thread.
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