SUMMARY OF DIFFERENCES BETWEEN PETER AND PAUL

[Doug]

That's false doctrine... hang in there, you'll get it someday

The gospel was to the Jew first and then to the gentile (Romans 1:16) which ironically the Lord said this thru Paul

If you study Hebrews, you'll see the gentiles were grafted in to the same Tree and the only reason the Jews aren't saved as a nation is because as a nation they rejected Jesus... because they did not understand the OT scriptures teaching that the Messiah would come first as a suffering servant and become an offering for sin... and then later return as the King of the earth setting up His earthly kingdom.

Here is my post on Bible gospels if you care to read
MORE THAN ONE BIBLE GOSPEL

Yes as a nation they will be redeemed in the future

Here's another verse explaining what the Kingdom of God is right now...

Romans 14:17
For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.





That's not now... that come later in case you have not noticed Jesus is not yet King over this world

We see in the Book of Hebrews that Jesus has not assumed full control over this world yet:

Hebrews 2:8
Thou hast put all things in subjection under His feet. for in that
He put all in subjection under Him, He left nothing that is not put
under Him. But now we see not yet all things put under Him

And, we also see that the devil is called the god of this world which
will not change until Jesus returns to start His 1000 year reign and
throws the devil and his demons in to hell.

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which
believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who
is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Jesus speaking of the devil, says he is the prince of this world.

The kingdom for Israel is future

Too bad you have not seen and believed this portion of scripture... which is for Real Christians right now!

Romans 14:17
For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

Thats speaks abouth the heavenly kingdom not the Davidic kingdom

 

[Doug]

Too bad you have not seen and believed this portion of scripture... which is for Real Christians right now!

Romans 14:17
For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

That the heavenly kingdom not the Davidic

 

[Behold]

You’ve cut yourself off from the Messiah’s preaching. That’s not sound thinking.

Paul's Gospel, is ....... The Cross of Christ.

Now, why didnt Jesus have this message?

A.) Because He was not crucified when He was dealing with the Jews, his entire ministry.

Do you really not understand that Christ didn't tell anyone about the Cross, because there was no Cross?

This is too difficult for you to understand ? @Matthias ?

And if you did, you would realize that Paul was able to preach "The Cross" because There WAS ONE... when He was preaching.


A.) Think

You’re teaching newbies to cut themselves off from the Messiah’s preaching. That’s not sound teaching.

You are speaking babble to yourself that has no meaning to anyone but you.

 

[Matthias]

Paul's Gospel, is ....... The Cross of Christ.

Now, why didnt Jesus have this message?

A.) Because He was not crucified when He was dealing with the Jews, his entire ministry.

Do you really not understand that Christ didn't tell anyone about the Cross, because there was no Cross?

This is too difficult for you to understand ? @Matthias ?

And if you did, you would realize that Paul was able to preach "The Cross" because There WAS ONE... when He was preaching.


A.) Think





You are speaking babble to yourself that has no meaning to anyone but you.

There is only one gospel.

 

[Behold]

There is only one gospel.

Galatians 1:8

read it carefully.

 

[Matthias]

Galatians 1:8

read it carefully.

My message to newbies is listen to Jesus preaching. His preaching is for you; it’s for everyone.

 

[Behold]

My message to newbies is listen to Jesus preaching. His preaching is for you; it’s for everyone.

Do this instead and then you are obeying correctly.

Philippians 3:17

Berean Literal Bible
Be imitators together of me brothers, and consider those walking thus, as you have us for a pattern.

King James Bible
Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.

New King James Version
Brethren, join in following my example, and note those who so walk, as you have us for a pattern.

New American Standard Bible
Brothers and sisters, join in following my example, and observe those who walk according to the pattern you have in us.

NASB 1995
Brethren, join in following my example, and observe those who walk according to the pattern you have in us.

NASB 1977
Brethren, join in following my example, and observe those who walk according to the pattern you have in us.

 

[Matthias]

Do this instead and then you are obeying correctly.

Philippians 3:17

Berean Literal Bible
Be imitators together of me brothers, and consider those walking thus, as you have us for a pattern.

King James Bible
Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.

New King James Version
Brethren, join in following my example, and note those who so walk, as you have us for a pattern.

New American Standard Bible
Brothers and sisters, join in following my example, and observe those who walk according to the pattern you have in us.

NASB 1995
Brethren, join in following my example, and observe those who walk according to the pattern you have in us.

NASB 1977
Brethren, join in following my example, and observe those who walk according to the pattern you have in us.

Your message to newbies isn’t my message to newbies. Matthew 24:14 is the only way to go, and you haven’t.

Newbies will have to decide which message is correct.

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Don’t pit the apostles against one another. They all preach the same gospel, and they all preach the gospel that the Messiah preached.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

if you care to read

I can read just fine... but have no interest in using my reading skills to read doctrines of demons.

But, thank you for thinking of me! That was nice.

Thats speaks abouth the heavenly kingdom not the Davidic kingdom

This is for Real Christians... right now! It's too bad you are missing out homie!

Romans 14:17
For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

Right now, in this life... Real Christians have right standing, peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost as long as they abiding IN CHRIST

Maybe someday you can get born again and be translated from darkness in to the Kingdom of God's Dear Son! Maybe!

Colossians 1:13
Who HAS delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son

Don’t pit the apostles against one another. They all preach the same gospel, and they all preach the gospel that the Messiah preached.

 

[Doug]

I can read just fine

I didnt mean it like that I meant if you cared to read it...my fault

 

[Doug]

I can read just fine... but have no interest in using my reading skills to read doctrines of demons.

But, thank you for thinking of me! That was nice.





This is for Real Christians... right now! It's too bad you are missing out homie! View attachment 55462

Romans 14:17
For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

Right now, in this life... Real Christians have right standing, peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost as long as they abiding IN CHRIST

Maybe someday you can get born again and be translated from darkness in to the Kingdom of God's Dear Son! Maybe!

Colossians 1:13
Who HAS delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son




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[1Ch 29:11 KJV] 11 Thine, O LORD, [is] the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all [that is] in the heaven and in the earth [is thine]; thine [is] the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all.

The kingdom includes heaven and earth

 

[Doug]

I can read just fine... but have no interest in using my reading skills to read doctrines of demons.

Doctrine of demons would not be found in my citing supporting scripture

 

[Dan Clarkston]

The kingdom includes heaven and earth

Keep in mind that we see in the Book of Hebrews that Jesus has not assumed full control over this world yet:

Hebrews 2:8
Thou hast put all things in subjection under His feet. for in that
He put all in subjection under Him, He left nothing that is not put
under Him. But now we see not yet all things put under Him

And, we also see that the devil is called the god of this world which
will not change until Jesus returns to start His 1000 year reign and
throws the devil and his demons in to hell.

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which
believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who
is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Jesus speaking of the devil, says he is the prince of this world.

John 14:30
the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

Doctrine of demons would not be found in my citing supporting scripture

Any claim that God is literally controlling all things in this world in which we live... is in fact teaching that does not come from the Holy Ghost and is not scriptural.

This is how and why many claim God is the One that kills their loved ones, gives people cancer, causing car wrecks, etc, etc, etc

That's a trick of the devil to get people to believe God is causing all the bad things in people's lives which tricks them in to becoming adversaries of the Lord... just like satan is.

 

[Doug]

Any claim that God is literally controlling all things in this world in which we live... is in fact teaching that does not come from the Holy Ghost and is not scriptural.

This is how and why many claim God is the One that kills their loved ones, gives people cancer, causing car wrecks, etc, etc, etc

That's a trick of the devil to get people to believe God is causing all the bad things in people's lives which tricks them in to becoming adversaries of the Lord... just like satan is.

I do not recall saying any of this

 

[Dan Clarkston]

[1Ch 29:11 KJV] 11 Thine, O LORD, [is] the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all [that is] in the heaven and in the earth [is thine]; thine [is] the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all.

The kingdom includes heaven and earth

And yet we see we see in the Book of Hebrews that Jesus has not assumed full control over this world yet:

Hebrews 2:8
Thou hast put all things in subjection under His feet. for in that
He put all in subjection under Him, He left nothing that is not put
under Him. But now we see not yet all things put under Him

It's going to be tough explaining that away

 

[Doug]

And yet we see we see in the Book of Hebrews that Jesus has not assumed full control over this world yet:

Hebrews 2:8
Thou hast put all things in subjection under His feet. for in that
He put all in subjection under Him, He left nothing that is not put
under Him. But now we see not yet all things put under Him

It's going to be tough explaining that away View attachment 55713

Yes but I dont see your point

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Peter and Paul did not preach the same gospel messages. Below are the differences between the gospels and apostleship's of Peter and Paul.

Peter's apostleship:
He was chosen by Jesus Christ to be an apostle along with the other eleven disciples before Paul. Peter was primarily the apostle to Israel (Galatians 2:8). Peter's apostleship was diminishing after Paul was converted.

Paul's apostleship:
Paul was persecuting the church of God before being converted. After his conversion Paul was given revelations from the Lord Jesus Christ; Paul did not learn from any man including the twelve apostles (Galatians 1:12). Paul was primarily the apostle to Gentiles (Romans 11:13 2 Timothy 1:11).

Peter's Justification:
Peter and the other eleven apostles taught justification unto eternal life by believing on the name of Jesus; by believing Jesus is Christ, the Son of God (Acts 10:43 Matthew 16:16 Acts 4:12 Acts 2:36 John 20:31).

Peter preached that Israel under the old covenant was redeemed and cleansed by the crucifixion and shed blood of Jesus (Matthew 26:28 Hebrews 9:15 1 Peter 1:2 1 Peter 1:18-19 1 Peter 2:24). Peter preached forgiveness of sin for the nation of Israel at the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 3:19).

Paul's Justification:
Paul taught justification unto eternal life by the cross (1 Corinthians 1:18 Galatians 6:14 Colossians 1:20). Justification by faith believing that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again for complete salvation unto eternal life (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Colossians 2:10). Paul taught forgiveness of all sin now by the blood of Jesus (Ephesians 1:7 Colossians 2:13).

Peter's gospel:
Peter preached remission of sins in the name of Jesus (Acts 10:43). Peter taught the gospel of the kingdom (Luke 9:2 Luke 9:6 2 Peter 1:11). Israel would inherit the promise of the Davidic kingdom on earth (Luke 1:32 Genesis 13:15 Ezekiel 37:24-28). Israel would rule and reign with Jesus for a thousand year period (Revelation 20:6 Revelation 5:10).

Paul's gospel:
Paul taught the gospel of the uncircumcision (Galatians 2:7). Paul taught salvation to all freely by faith in Christ apart from the covenants of Israel, and apart from keeping the law (Romans 9:4 Romans 3:28 Galatians 2:19).

Peter and the resurrection:
Peter preached the gospel of the circumcision (Galatians 2:7). Israel under the old covenant promises was promised to be a holy nation, a kingdom of kings and priests to rule over the Gentile nations with Christ (1 Peter 2:9 Revelation 1:6 Exodus 19:6 Revelation 5:10). Peter preached that the resurrection of Christ gave Israel assurance of that coming kingdom because Christ was raised to sit on the throne of David in that prophetic kingdom (1 Peter 1:3 Acts 3:25 Acts 2:30). Peter preached the receiving of the Holy Ghost to empower Israel to enter the kingdom (Luke 24:49 Acts 1:8 Acts 2:33 Acts 2:38).

Paul and the resurrection:
Paul taught that Christ was risen for our justification (Romans 4:25).

Peter and works:
Peter preached works as necessary for salvation in order to enter the kingdom (Acts 10:35 1 Peter 1:15 1 Peter 2:9 2 Peter 1:10-11). Peter preached to Israel repentance and baptism for the remission of sins (Acts 2:38). Peter preached holiness, and to remain steadfast unto the coming of Jesus and his kingdom (2 Peter 3:17).

Paul and works:
Paul taught salvation without works (Titus 3:5 Romans 4:6 Ephesians 2:8-9).

Peter and the church:
Peter preached to Israel (Acts 3:12). Gentiles had to come through Israel and it's covenants to be added to the church (Exodus 12:48 Acts 11:1); Gentiles had to believe the preaching of the word delivered to Israel as preached by Peter (Acts 13:48).

Paul and the church:
Paul taught the church as the body of Christ, a new creature where there was neither Jew or Gentile (Galatians 6:15 Galatians 3:28 Ephesians 2:14).

Peter and heaven:
Peter taught that Israel would receive the kingdom on earth (Matthew 10:7 Luke 9:2 Luke 9:6 2 Peter 1:11 Acts 2:30). He taught their reward was stored in heaven but not in heaven (1 Peter 1:4).

Paul and heaven:
Paul taught the church seated with Christ in heavenly places (Ephesians 2:6).

Both Peter and Paul were ordained of God to preach the gospel. Those who believed their gospels are in Christ. Peter's gospel faded away as Israel was diminished, and is not the gospel that is preached today. Paul preaches the gospel by which we are saved today. Paul in his epistles reveal the mysteries and doctrine for the church today.

If you define the Gospel correctly, you must agree that both Peter and Paul taught the same gospel.
1 Corinthians 15:3-4. For I handed on to you as of first importance what I in turn had received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures, 4and that he was buried, and that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the scriptures.

Obviously a message to the gentiles ( who knew scarcely about the Old Testament), had to be approached differently; whereas a message to the Jews as Peter, Matthew and James gave, must be relative to Old Testament and touch more on familiar passages from their Law and the Messianic prophecies.
God's overall message to humanity came from some 40 prophets over 1600 years. It is all God's word. There are no contradictions.

 

[Doug]

If you define the Gospel correctly, you must agree that both Peter and Paul taught the same gospel.
1 Corinthians 15:3–15:41. For I handed on to you as of first importance what I in turn had received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures, 4and that he was buried, and that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the scriptures.

The gospel above from Paul

[Mat 10:5-7 KJV] 5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into [any] city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

This is what the twelve preached.....not the same

[Act 2:38 KJV] 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

This is what Peter preached....not the same

 

[Doug]

Obviously a message to the gentiles ( who knew scarcely about the Old Testament), had to be approached differently;

The verses I shewed you do not contain anything about Christ's death for sin of all nor the blood

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Yes but I dont see your point

Obviously

This is what the twelve preached.....not the same

This is what Peter preached....not the same

If what you are saying is actually true... then either Peter or the twelve are in hell right now for not obeying the Lord.

Which one do you think it is?