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[Josho]

@Josho

Sporting Lisbon - 31 Apps - 5 golos
Manchester United - 292 Apps - 118 golos
Real Madrid -438 Apps - 450 golos
Juventus 134 Apps - 101 golos
Manchester United 3 Apps - 4 golos
Portugal 180 Apps - 110 golos

Total appearances - 1,078
Total golos - 789
Goal scoring ration - 0.732

So its just as i said... He was a winger early in his career so you can't really decide who is the GOAT just by looking at that..

So @APAK perhaps Messi is more team oriented he has more assists. ;)

 

[Josho]

@Cristo Rei

Here we go, alright.

So

Messi's Average

Goals per game = 0.8040685225
Assists per game = 0.3372591006
Goals + Assists per game = 1.1413276231

Ronaldo's Average
Goals per game = 0.7319109462
Assists per game = 0.2096474954
Goals + Assists per game = 0.9415584416

Goals + Assists Per Game Winner = Messi

@Cristo Rei

Messi is the clear winner for Goals per game and Assists per game.

 

[Josho]

@Cristo Rei
Messi's Average

Goals per game = 0.8040685225
Assists per game = 0.3372591006
Goals + Assists per game = 1.1413276231

Ronaldo's Average
Goals per game = 0.7319109462
Assists per game = 0.2096474954
Goals + Assists per game = 0.9415584416

Goals + Assists Per Game Winner = Messi

Now let's look at some other things.

Puskas Awards
Messi - 0 - 1 - Ronaldo

Ballon d'Ors
Messi - 6 - 5 - Ronaldo

Golden Boot Awards
Messi - 6 - 4 Ronaldo

Olympic Gold Medals
Messi - 1 - 0 Ronaldo

 

[Cristo Rei]

@Josho

Can Messi do this... Header the ball 2.8 meters in the sky...

Nope

Can Messi do this... Score free kicks from 40 yards...

Nope

Can Messi do this... Score backheels into the bottom corner...

Nope

Can Messi do this... Score outrageous bicycle kicks

Nope

Messis goals are all with his left foot inside the box
Ronaldo scores all kinds of goals

 

[Josho]

@Josho

Can Messi do this... Header the ball 2.8 meters in the sky...

Nope

Can Messi do this... Score free kicks from 40 yards...

Nope

Can Messi do this... Score backheels into the bottom corner...

Nope

Can Messi do this... Score outrageous bicycle kicks

Nope

Messis goals are all with his left foot inside the box
Ronaldo scores all kinds of goals

Ronaldo wins on quality of Goals, but Messi wins as a better player, because he has more Ballon d'Ors. Lolz

 

[Josho]

An arguably Neymar Jr. is the best at nutmegging and dribbling. Better than Ronaldo..

 

[Cristo Rei]

Now let's look at some other things.

Puskas Awards
Messi - 0 - 1 - Ronaldo

Ballon d'Ors
Messi - 6 - 5 - Ronaldo

Golden Boot Awards
Messi - 6 - 4 Ronaldo

Olympic Gold Medals
Messi - 1 - 0 Ronaldo

Puskas award is just the best gol of the year. Can't believe Leo hasn't ever got one
Ballon d'or is a popularity contest. Messi should of never won 4 in a row and Iniesta should of never got one either over CR7
Golden boot... Be more specific. Is that golden boot for leagues, UCL, Europe. There are several golden boots
Olympics is worthless cos its only under 21

Ronaldo has more UCL titles and gols plus more international gols.
I think Messi has more league titles but all in Spain
Ronaldo has league titles in England, Spain and Italia

 

[Josho]

Puskas award is just the best gol of the year. Can't believe Leo hasn't ever got one
Ballon d'or is a popularity contest. Messi should of never won 4 in a row and Iniesta should of never got one either over CR7
Golden boot... Be more specific. Is that golden boot for leagues, UCL, Europe. There are several golden boots
Olympics is worthless cos its only under 21

Ronaldo has more UCL titles and gols plus more international gols.
I think Messi has more league titles but all in Spain
Ronaldo has league titles in England, Spain and Italia

I think that might be all up for Golden boots.

Oh and the most important stat.

La Liga Titles
Messi - 10 - 2 Ronaldo

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theweek.co.uk/messi-vs-ronaldo-trophies-honours-awards?amp

 

[Cristo Rei]

@Josho

Messi is the best player Barcelona has ever had

But...

Ronaldo is the best player United has ever had
The best plyer Madrid has ever had
The best player Juventus has ever had
And the best player Portugal has ever had

 

[Josho]

@Josho

Messi is the best player Barcelona has ever had

But...

Ronaldo is the best player United has ever had
The best plyer Madrid has ever had
The best player Juventus has ever had
And the best player Portugal has ever had

Messi is more loyal. ;)

 

[Cristo Rei]

So its settled... Ronaldo is the GOAT

 

[Cristo Rei]

@Josho

Then the is the ethical question about Leo's drug use...
His allowed use of growth hormones is questionable at best...
He would of never been the player he was without the use of such drugs

 

[Josho]

So its settled... Ronaldo is the GOAT

Nope there's still another comparison that must be done.

The Standard Fifa Cards 2010-2022.


Fifa 10 - Messi - 91 - 93 Ronaldo
Fifa 11 - Messi - 90 - 89 Ronaldo
Fifa 12 - Messi - 94 - 92 Ronaldo
Fifa 13 - Messi - 94 - 92 Ronaldo
Fifa 14 - Messi - 94 - 92 Ronaldo
Fifa 15 - Messi - 93 - 92 Ronaldo
Fifa 16 - Messi - 94 - 93 Ronaldo
Fifa 17 - Messi - 93 - 94 Ronaldo
Fifa 18 - Messi - 93 - 94 Ronaldo
Fifa 19 - Messi - 94 - 94 Ronaldo
Fifa 20 - Messi - 94 - 93 Ronaldo
Fifa 21 - Messi - 93 - 92 Ronaldo
Fifa 22 - Messi - 93 - 91 Ronaldo


If we did the maths I reckon Messi has definitely got a higher Fifa average card.

Messi the Goat

 

[Cristo Rei]

Nope there's still another comparison that must be done.

The Standard Fifa Cards 2010-2022.


Fifa 10 - Messi - 91 - 93 Ronaldo
Fifa 11 - Messi - 90 - 89 Ronaldo
Fifa 12 - Messi - 94 - 92 Ronaldo
Fifa 13 - Messi - 94 - 92 Ronaldo
Fifa 14 - Messi - 94 - 92 Ronaldo
Fifa 15 - Messi - 93 - 92 Ronaldo
Fifa 16 - Messi - 94 - 93 Ronaldo
Fifa 17 - Messi - 93 - 94 Ronaldo
Fifa 18 - Messi - 93 - 94 Ronaldo
Fifa 19 - Messi - 94 - 94 Ronaldo
Fifa 20 - Messi - 94 - 93 Ronaldo
Fifa 21 - Messi - 93 - 92 Ronaldo
Fifa 22 - Messi - 93 - 91 Ronaldo


If we did the maths I reckon Messi has definitely got a higher Fifa average card.

Messi the Goat

Messi is nothing without his illegal growth hormones...
His a drug cheat

 

[Cristo Rei]

No drugs No Messi

 

[Josho]

Messi is nothing without his illegal growth hormones...
His a drug cheat

Can you prove that what he has done is illegal?

And can you prove Ronaldo is clean?

 

[Cristo Rei]

Can you prove that what he has done is illegal?

And can you prove Ronaldo is clean?

Look into it yourself... See if you can refute my claim

Ronaldo has never had such charge put against him in the first place

Messi used/uses growth hormones

 

[Josho]

Look into it yourself... See if you can verify my claim

Ronaldo has never had such charge put against him in the first place

Messi used/uses growth hormones

From a quick read he had a growth hormone disorder as a child, so he is not a drug cheat....

 

[Cristo Rei]

From a quick read he had a growth hormone disorder as a child, so he is not a drug cheat....

Thats the argument but he had no disorder in his blood or anything like that he was just short
His height was average for an Argentine boy
No drugs No Messi

 

[Josho]

An arguably Neymar Jr. is the best at nutmegging and dribbling. Better than Ronaldo..

2020-2021

Top 10 dribblers in Europe. Neymar was 2nd, Messi was 4th and Ronaldo doesn't even make the list. ;)

Europe’s top 10 dribblers, 2020-21: Neymar, Ben Arfa, Messi & more - Planet Football