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Spiritual Warfare
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amigo de christo
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temporarily lead astray perhaps . But aint no LAMB of HIS gonna stay that path for long .
JESUS GOTS THE SHEEP SISTER . And through other lambs , His spirit , correction will come quickly .
But many can claim the name and many can appear as men of rightesouness
and yet they the servants of another , of the flesh and boy do they seduce and decieve .
Many can claim i have known him from five years of age
i was baptized , i am a leader , a choir singer
i go to church . And YET STILL NOT KNOW HIM at all .
SO when i say on the DAY of the LORD that many are gonna wail , LETS JUST SAY MANY ARE GONNA WAIL .
if any preaches another other gospel than the one orginally delivered by CHRIST and the apostles
let him be accursed , SEPERATED OUT . man even but a little leaven can surely leaven and do so rather quickly too .
This lamb , his duty , TO EXPOSE ALL that is contrary to CHRIST
to POINT ONLY TO CHRIST , HIS WORDS , <HIS DOCTRINE , THE TRUTH .
And if exposing the false ones seemth ill and evil
then let me remind us of what GOD told a church .
I HAVE THIS against YOU . You ALLOW that false whore prophetess to teach and to seduce MY PEOPLE .
Notice the didnt say , OH ITS OKAY IF THEY DO SO DONT JUDGE lets just get along and hug
and find us some common ground . I am gonna expose it all sister .
And soon enough , IF GOD ALLOWS , this lamb and many other lambs will be rounded up
seen as naught but haters , as dangerous , as a scourge upon society .
AND MANY WHO DO SO , will have sat in many churches within EVEN christendom too .
I SEE what is coming and i GOT NO FEAR OF IT . JESUS is with me sister
and it aint cause i deserved it either . I was worst of the worst .
JESUS is with me sister and i shall NOT FEAR WHAT MAN can do to me .
amigo de christo
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because you misundestand me .
I was the one without works , my faith was DEAD .
i do agree with james . but james knew , just as did paul
that one can also have an appearance of works and YET they dont really BELIEVE IN or BELIEVE CHRIST .
You are misunderstanding me . AND its easy to do with internet witenssing .
Faith without works IS DEAD.
EVEN CORNELIOUS who did much good and believed in the jewish GOD
STILL had to hear the gospel and BELIEVE .
And he shall tell the WORDS whereby you shall be SAVED . read acts eleven . THEY KNEW my friend . . SEND FOR PETER and HE shall TELL YOU what YOU NEED TO DO . that is in acts ten . Exactly .
THIS phoney crap from popes and protestants about an inclusive lie from hades , WE better not buy into it .
HOW did GOD choose to save the world .
BY THE PREACHING OF THE REAL GOSPEL , so that all who do BELIEVE , notice that say BELEIVE
would be saved . ONLY i sure aint seeing that gospel getting sold to the masses at all .
IN FACT not only is it not being preached , HECK ITS GETTING ATTACKED .
amigo de christo
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No . i am understanding you . for years and years i have long exposed the lip only but not in heart camp .
This may come as a suprise to you , or maybe not . BUT
not a word spoken or written by any apostel ever contradicted another apostel OR JESUS either .
Many today have come in under a guise . and that guise
is to convince us that it dont really matter what one believes , aka if they are muslim
buddist or whateverist . IF they simply did good works they KNEW GOD .
ITS A LIE johann . AND believe you me i am gonna expose it .
The muslims DO NOT KNOW GOD . oh they can claim all day to follow moses and the law and torah .
SO Did the unbeleiving jews , and yet JESUS exposed them all .
HAD YA BELIEVED MOSES well YOU WOULD HAVE BELIEVED ME .
TORAH , the law , IT LEADS ONE TO JESUS THE CHRIST , not To some other dung pile false religoin
with the idea of loving ya neighbor crap .
NO man , not one man , can BY THE SPIRIT call JESUS accursed , BUT CAN ONLY CALL HIM LORD .
What did john say
what did JESUS say
what did paul
james and others say . WHO did they point too . was it just the notion of doing
or did they preach about the dire necessity to beleive
and then reminded the church who DID BELIEVE about BEING DOERS and not to follow another jesus or gospel .
Ritajanice
Born-Again
amigo de christo
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To the trenches , the battle rages on . Soon this life called the vapor will be over
and all lambs through all ages will be together with HE who saved and kept them .
But marvel not if it gets real rocky and hard times befall us in this world .
Its gonna get nasty sister .
with whatever time we have left , THINGS get worse in the world , a deceptoin only grows and abounds .
Now some will hear and repent but most are gonna get VERY VERY HARD hearted .
YES THE TIME IS and is coming when many
who cast us out , who would even kill us , imprison us , WILL THINK THEY DO Gods will .
many be following the WRONG GOD SISTAH . but the lambs WONT HEED THEM or that voice .
amigo de christo
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amigo de christo
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On those feet johann .
The powers of darkness and of all which is unholy rages a war in the spiritual realm
that is performed in the natural . And johann , THEY are TAKING not a moment off to decieve
the many . We take no time off to POINT to CHRIST and him crucified .
To do not as the confused , who offer up false hope
but rather to offer up THE ONLY , AND i do mean ONLY , HOPE THERE IS , TIME TO BELIEVE ON
the ONLY ONE who can justify one , make one righteous and give one a new heart wherein
dwells the LOVE of GOD . THE ONLY ONE who can save .
Let us be not as this world and offer up a strange and diverse golden image
of what it thinks saves
RATHER let us heed the ONE who was LIFTED UP that all who do BELEIVE would NOT PERISH
but have ever lasting life . Now to the trenches .
amigo de christo
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As moses lifted up the serpent
so too must the Son of man be lifted up
that all who do BELEIVE shall not perish
but have eternal life .
Let us not be as the many who lift up a false hope , a diverse and strange image
of another god who promises life without belief in JESUS the CHRIST but rather
through means of a love of this world and its version .
Time runs short and the days grow ever short .
And its not only time but its HIGH TIME
the lambs get busy pointing too and reminding all of the absolute dire necessity to beleive on JESUS the CHRIST
Now what i type next is of dire importance as well .
ONLY we had better make sure ITS THE JESUS CHRIST , HIS biblical words , HIS truth
that we be heeding .
For many now follow another image of god and of christ , and rita , IT WONT save them it will grave them all .
TO THA TRENCHES sister . Be in prayer
THIS IS war sister . WAR . and it is spiritual .
And many spirits now work as one in league with the dark one
and have come in to replace the TRUE JESUS CHRIST , the TRUE GOD
with an false hope image of another god and christ . Exposed it will be on my watch .
Ritajanice
Born-Again
We must be Born Again to have eternal life, see the Kingdom of God.
Can’t believe in the Son without his witness, witnessing that truth to our heart/ spirit.
The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children...that can only come by “ divine revelation “.
Our spirit must be Born Again of imperishable seed, that liveth and abideth forever.
Liveth and abideth forever where?
Where does that Living seed liveth and Abideth ?
Anyone can post scripture....we need that Living spirit birth, that only God can do, via His witness His Living Holy Spirit...our spirit must be Born Of God’s seed...
What ever God has delivered to the heart , it can never be denied....
We’re under attack, spiritual warfare......
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amigo de christo
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And yet we got a man amongst us teaching us that one does not have to beleive JESUS is the CHRIST .
SO WHERE IS THE HOLY SPIRIT IN that mess . IT AINT RITA .
the HOLY SPIRIT of the HOLY GOD and of HIS CHRIST , didnt come to deny JESUS is the CHRIST
and to promote ideals like its not necessary to BELIEVE ON HIM .
WHAT DO the SPIRIT DO . IT TESTIFIES OF JESUS THE CHRIST and teaches us , of all things HE did teach .
IT dont try and omit things JESUS said . men do that , NOT GOD , NOT HIS SPIRIT .
Ritajanice
Born-Again
What does he believe then?
Without the Spirit then we are none of His....just as his word says.
John 15:4-5Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me. "I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.
amigo de christo
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So then let us take heed to what paul wrote , to what john wrote .
Concerning another gospel and all things .
Whatever GOD has delivered to the heart . whatever WHO has delivered to the heart , GOD has .
Only in a lot of places i do go and see , OH i see a lot of contradictions to the oringal gospel
and yet many BELIEVING GOD has put those desires into their hearts . BUT IT WASNT GOD that did that rita .
SO my advice to all does remain the same , we had better get in the bible and learn it well .
We had better heed the Spirit and not the flesh .
There is a massively huge movment going on right now .
THis movement will not agree on its every view point and doctrines
but WHAT THEY ALL do believe , IS THERE IS NO NEED TO BELIEVE .
I dont care how they preach it , and they do so differently
if we take the time to look at the core of its heart , that message they offer up
YOU GONNA SEE one MAIN THING . Rather than teaching the DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
it teaches there is no NEED TO BELEIVE . BINGO and BULLEYES SISTER .
NOW if we are heeding a concept which says THERE IS NO NEED TO BELEIVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
Allow me to remind us of what this cometh of ,
HE who believes NOT that JESUS is the CHRIST is anti christ . And most folks now think its loving and its love .
Rita , the original one true gospel of BELIEVE YE has been replaced
with another gospel of just DO ye some good and it dont matter IF Ya beleive or not . THAT is a LIE right there .
amigo de christo
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Men beleive many things sister .
But the question is , DO THEY REALLY BELIEVE WHAT JESUS SAID .
or do they omit parts and try and rather teach us some things HE said
and yet give the impression its not necessary TO BELEIVE .
Many within christendom
can say i Believe IN Jesus the CHRIST
the only problem is , THEY SURE DONT SEEM TO BELIEVE HIM .
sounds like dead faith to me sister .
Sounds to me like at most they are trusting in another jesus
which has promised them life , but has turned around
and then said , BUT no need to BELIEVE and it also will honor their sins .
It dont take a degree to figure out WHO WOULD DO SUCH A THING as that .
The devil sister . HE can quoate too . He can preach another image of , another version of said Jesus , AND YOU are
Correct . WITHOUT the SPIRIT we are none of HIS .
Now tell me , HOW does one have the SPIRIT , if they preach contrary to the very gospel itself
I mean the last time i checked its only by the SPIRIT we call HIM LORD .
THAT MEANS WE BELEIVE IN HIM TO BE THE LORD THE CHRIST THE MESSIAH .
many can teach concepts about being dead to sin
about crucifying oneself
picking up the cross . AND YET THE whole time DENY HE WHO was on that CROSS and WHO was ressurected
three days later .
ANY man that goes around mocking at folks who remind all to FIRST BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
or its all vain , That man does all in vain . cause its nothing more than a
seek it yourself mindset . an attain to righteousness yourself apart from FAITH mindset .
Cause if our faith is not in CHRIST , ITS ALL VAIN rita . AND I mean ALL IN VAIN .
amigo de christo
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IT is only BY THE HOLY SPIRIT we can call HIM LORD .
well guess what , ONE WHO calls JESUS THE CHRIST LORD , MUST BELIEVE HE IS THE CHRIST AND LORD
otherwise THEY WOULD NOT CALL HIM LORD .
BULLSEYE folks . do not let this other gospel lead one to perdition .
REMEMBER paul once wrote
Because they rejected THE LOVE of THE TRUTH whereby they could have been saved
HE sent a DELUSION to beleive a lie . AND A LIE WONT SAVE it will preach and believe SOMETHING
CONTRARY TO THE ORIGINAL LIFE SAVING GOSPEL .
we better watch out . We better watch out and be on gaurd my friends .
well guess what , ONE WHO calls JESUS THE CHRIST LORD , MUST BELIEVE HE IS THE CHRIST AND LORD
otherwise THEY WOULD NOT CALL HIM LORD .
BULLSEYE folks . do not let this other gospel lead one to perdition .
REMEMBER paul once wrote
Because they rejected THE LOVE of THE TRUTH whereby they could have been saved
HE sent a DELUSION to beleive a lie . AND A LIE WONT SAVE it will preach and believe SOMETHING
CONTRARY TO THE ORIGINAL LIFE SAVING GOSPEL .
we better watch out . We better watch out and be on gaurd my friends .
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name? and in your name have cast out devils? and in your name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Matthew 7:21-23
King James Version
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
I know what you mean about the flesh winning in a small matter, that is what marked the endpoint of walking in the Spirit, however, my understanding of what happened was a little different.
For the entire time that I was continuously in the Spirit (about a 5 week period), there was no hint of fleshly appetite. Nothing, not a peep, not a whisper. I'm thinking that my "special state" had already ended when I saw that moment of fleshy lust appear. Though I don't know what would have happened had I denied it. I felt immediately that the battle was already lost, as the flesh as reappeared. Now, I know how to respond, and that moment wouldn't have passed into sin. I'd like to think.
I've come to think that God granted me this experience so I'd have enough faith to hold on through some extremely trying times that were about to come.
I've come to believe that this is the natural state for a child of God, and it we have consistent faith at that level, we will walk in the Spirit. But we have so many reasons to not believe to that degree, and our flesh is so corrupted that we have a real challenge on our hands.
I saw it as God showing me what it looked like, what it felt like, what my mind was like, it was a huge learning experience, and I now have come to believe this is what we are maturing into.
God can give us boosts up, He doesn't always, this is where we are all, who are in Christ, are heading. When we don't doubt, we remain there.
Much love!
Yes, I see the language used.
I see this being the effect of the Spirit coming upon Saul.
In various places, the Spirit is upon, or on someone, is with someone, and is in someone. Upon someone is for a particular purpose, which can end when the Spirit leaves.
In this case I see the Spirit comes upon Saul for that purpose of making him a different person, and when the Spirit left Saul, that purpose ended, and Saul was his old self.
So between the wording and the effect I don't see this comparable to rebirth. I do happen to believe very strongly that rebirth is forever. Otherwise clearly stated Scriptures would have to become untrue.
On very strong passage is where we are told to not greave the Holy Spirit, by whom we are sealed unto the day of redemption. If you are saying you can leave the Holy Spirit, i.e. walk away from your redemption, this would mean you are violating God's seal of ownership of you. You are bought and paid for, under seal of God's ownership until that day He come to collect His possession. To me this is as ironclad as a number of other passages which speak toward the same thing.
Romans 8 uses the same verb tense for "glorified" as it does "justified", as though it's already happened, along with called, and justified".
This "positionally", I don't speak that way. I don't see the Bible speaking that way. I think people have come to think of our "position", positional righteousness, positional sanctification, because they don't see it in their lives, or enough of it, and they are reminding themselves that the are imputed righteousness even if they don't see it.
I maintain that we are united to Jesus, to the Father, to the Holy Spirit, in that He has come to live in me, and His presence in my gives life to my otherwise dead spirit. It's the case of Jesus touching the leper. His touch heals.
I believe we have God's imputed righteousness, that we are rendered judicially righteous, all that was against us being removed by death. I also believe we have His imparted righteousness, that is, the ability to be righteous in our lives due to the fact of a new creation joined to Jesus.
That sounds right.
Each of these showed positions incompatible with Scripture.
Much love!
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