Spiritual Warfare

[amigo de christo]

Spiritual attacks are designed to turn you away from what God wants to do in your life.

Never take our eyes and ears off of God!...that has to be learnt in our spirit....it sure don’t come easy, we’re in a spiritual battle!.....it’s gets easier as we mature and grow in Christ....who brings it all to our understanding...in “ HIS” timing......I didn’t even know what spiritual warfare was as a newly birthed spirit child...only the Spirit can teach us such spiritual matters.


Short commentary.

. Prayer is personal dependence on God, and every part of armor that we've talked about must be interwoven with prayer. Turning to God is personal, dependent prayer at the beginning of each day and in the intervals between your daily situationsis crucial to effective spiritual warfare.

Test the spirits in all places for many false teachings and teachers do abound in about every place
we do visist . general reminder is what this is .
What is the Spirit of anti christ . We better know this very well .
For even in johns day many anti christs were already at work to seduce and to decieve .
So .
Lets take note and do remember this .
This is a general reminder to all of us here .
WHO is a liar but he who DENIES that JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
remember that all other religoins DO THIS . they might teach some aspects about loving their neighbor
but they DO DENY That JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
now if any one , EVEN ME SISTER , even an angel sister , anyone
preaches any other gospel than the one the church had recieved , i do believe that says let him be accursed .
I was on another site for about a month . Its all over that site as well .
Did you miss me dear sister . You were missed . But man there be only ONE
, ONE NAME that this lamb is gonna point to and remind all of the dire need to BELIEVE ON HIM .
That name , JESUS THE CHRIST . and then i remind THE BELIEVERS to do as HE said to do in all things .
I aint seeing this from certain folks . Now if any cometh and presents an idea
contrary to HAVING to believe on CHRIST JESUS but then preaches perhaps asepcts about things HE taught .
HEED not that person . We must preach THE DIRE NEED TO First BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
and all things HE did teach .
Many seem to have quickly forgotten something
THEY go about preaching ideas about the golden rule
or ideas about the cross
But seem to have forgotten its all VAIN if we DONT BELIEVE ON HIM that said those things
and was crucified on that cross .

 

[Hepzibah]

So okay John you want to invalidate me because I called you out on something ie the manner in which you handle disagreements by putting others down and not by showing love and patience. Well it is on your conscience.

ES was the calling of the early church, and most of them were probably walking in it (but not all hence the encouragement) but because of the time they were in, they considered martyrdom something particular or the high calling. Read again:

10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;

11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.

12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.

13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,

14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

15 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

16 Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing.

Paul is talking about his death here which he knew was going to be martyrdom.

 

[Ritajanice]

Test the spirits in all places for many false teachings and teachers do abound in about every place
we do visist . general reminder is what this is .
What is the Spirit of anti christ . We better know this very well .
For even in johns day many anti christs were already at work to seduce and to decieve .
So .
Lets take note and do remember this .
This is a general reminder to all of us here .
WHO is a liar but he who DENIES that JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
remember that all other religoins DO THIS . they might teach some aspects about loving their neighbor
but they DO DENY That JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
now if any one , EVEN ME SISTER , even an angel sister , anyone
preaches any other gospel than the one the church had recieved , i do believe that says let him be accursed .
I was on another site for about a month . Its all over that site as well .
Did you miss me dear sister . You were missed . But man there be only ONE
, ONE NAME that this lamb is gonna point to and remind all of the dire need to BELIEVE ON HIM .
That name , JESUS THE CHRIST . and then i remind THE BELIEVERS to do as HE said to do in all things .
I aint seeing this from certain folks . Now if any cometh and presents an idea
contrary to HAVING to believe on CHRIST JESUS but then preaches perhaps asepcts about things HE taught .
HEED not that person . We must preach THE DIRE NEED TO First BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
and all things HE did teach .
Many seem to have quickly forgotten something
THEY go about preaching ideas about the golden rule
or ideas about the cross
But seem to have forgotten its all VAIN if we DONT BELIEVE ON HIM that said those things
and was crucified on that cross .

Amen!!....Brother!!...Amen!

 

[Behold]

spirits of just men made perfect

""Just men made perfect."" "Spirits".

That would be a sinner having received "The Gift of Salvation", and their Spirit is "born again".

 

[Episkopos]

So okay John you want to invalidate me because I called you out on something ie the manner in which you handle disagreements by putting others down and not by showing love and patience. Well it is on your conscience.

I'm neither validating or invalidating...this is a discussion forum where we remain in the sphere of ideas. Maybe your name isn't really hepzibah? ;)

Don't take yourself so seriously. :)

ES was the calling of the early church, and most of them were probably walking in it (but not all hence the encouragement) but because of the time they were in, they considered martyrdom something particular or the high calling. Read again:

10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;

11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.

12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.

13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,

14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

15 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

16 Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing.

Paul is talking about his death here which he knew was going to be martyrdom.

Maybe you didn't read my post. Paul was not in the habit of exhorting dead people. Read it again.

 

[amigo de christo]

But ye have come unto Mount Zion and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn, who are written in Heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

Again is the author writing to dead people? You have come....

no , he was writing to those , HOWEVER , who DID actually BELIEVE ON JESUS as THE CHRIST
This coming to mout zion , yeah it dont apply to UNBELIEVERS . to them we gotta preach the DIRE need to BELIEVE ON HIM .
NOW as far as having come to MOUNT ZION
lets not forget something else . While TRUE believers , AND ONLY BELIEVERS IN JESUS CHRIST , have come unto
this mount zion , still we look for this city TO COME . we simply are connected BY THE SPIRIT .
but aint no man , no pope , no religion gonna usher in this kingdom .
IT cometh WHEN JESUS DO . and when HECOMETH
two things shall occur . The old heaven and old earth GONE , destrroyed and all evil within
as well as those who praticed said evil and beleive NOT on JESUS THE CHRIST .
Eradicated . Gone . Only the believers will dwell in the new heavens and the new earth .
FOR NOW , we are surrouned in this old earth and old heavens by many who pratice evil
and still love a lie . a lie namely that says YE DONT NEED to BELIEVE on JESUS THE CHRIST
or a lie that might say you need to but then led them to a SIN accepting jesus . AND do understand
why i absolutely, and no man can make me , CAPTILIZE that jesus , or its inclusive false gospel either .
JESUS dont kiss korans and blow incense to other gods .
JESUS dont unify with MUHAMMED or any other false religoin .
SO on that note , lets be sure we dont either .

 

[amigo de christo]

This verse you posted.... is Moses and Jews........in the Old Testament.

Is that the Bride of Christ in the NT?

It is not.

please read the above statment about testing the spirits . Behold , did ya miss me .
I was on , a temp vacation i suppose for about a month . NOW HIT THEM TRENCHES my friend .
DURING my so called vacation , I GOT FIRED UP DOUBLE TIME
and now return with more urgency , more fire than ever before , more zeal
for preaching the ONE TRUE GOSPEL . you know the one that says ONE MUST BELIEVE .
On this other site i was on , my goodness my friend the other gosple which is no gospel at all
IS big time infiltrated it . here is still much smaller in measure . but we better watch out
cause it can grow and grow fast if its not kept in serious check and the truth in scripture is not continually taught .
This reminder is a general reminder to all , even to me . not an accusation but just a reminder .

 

[Hepzibah]

I'm neither validating or invalidating...this is a discussion forum where we remain in the sphere of ideas. Maybe your name isn't really hepzibah? ;)

Don't take yourself so seriously. :)

Your manner is at fault. You have been chided a few times even by one who agrees with you on ES.

Maybe you didn't read my post. Paul was not in the habit of exhorting dead people. Read it again.

 

[Episkopos]

This verse you posted.... is Moses and Jews........in the Old Testament.

Is that the Bride of Christ in the NT?

It is not.

LOL....can you be honest for a minute?

The author says...BUT YOU. He is not talking to dead people...as maybe some here seem to think you should do?

2 But ye have come unto Mount Zion and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn, who are written in Heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
24 and to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

If someone wishes to remain ignorant let him be ignorant...I have no issue with that.

 

[Behold]

If that was the case then speaking to those who are already perfected...he would be speaking to dead corpses.

There is a "predestined" that happens after the born again die, or it happens to them in the Rapture.

"Conformed into the image of Christ".


But down here, there is this..

"as many as be PERFECT">.. Paul teaches, and that is to become "the fullness of the Stature of Christ".. on THIS Earth.

And that final maturing, is not self effort, its gaining full maturing within the Knowledge of God.

" Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded:

So, here you contradicted your first post to me, that said...>>>"the perfected would be dead corpses"..

Yet you just posted the verse that says that "as many as be perfect be thus minded".. ."Not thus Corpses".

In your view Paul wants dead people to have a certain mind? And then this...

Paul's view is what i teach.
That the believer is to leave Hebrews 6:1, and become "as many as be perfect""" = "thus Minded". or having the renewed mind, which is the perfect understanding regarding what it means to have become "One with God", "in Christ".

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Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing.

This means... "but regarding what we know, and have learned".. "Let us be conscious to keep it always and not lose it".

This is "Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves.'""" 2 Corin 13

Where as verse 11, In Phil 3, says that He has not yet "attained", to the "RESURRECTION">

 

[Behold]

LOL....can you be honest for a minute?

The most deceptive person on this forum, has falsely implied that im not.... "honest"..
Thats rich...

The author says...BUT YOU. He is not talking to dead people...as maybe some here seem to think you should do?

He's not talking to grave stones..... Paul is talking to believers.... Paul says......>>"as many as be thus minded".. ."as many as be perfect"..

2 But ye have come unto Mount Zion and unto the city of the living God,

That is an Old Testament verse, talking to Moses and the Jews.

There are no CHRISTIANS found in your verse... @Episkopos

You should burn your commentary set, as its a throne of LIES.

 

[amigo de christo]

Amen!!....Brother!!...Amen!

This brother is back with an huge zeal , bigger than ever before
to remind all of and to continue to remind all of , THE DIRE NEED to FIRST BELEIVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
cause if one believeth not , heck tis all in vain .
I am more fired up now than ever before . We are running out of time
and i am watching another gospel , which is no gospel take over SITES now .
I make my final stand in this last hour . AND YOU CAN BET ITS GONNA BE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
to contend and to defend the true faith , that one true gospel that was first deliverd by JESUS
and then the apostels to every creature and site that has breath .
Folks can do to me as they will . and no matter how hated my message will be
or i will be for reminding about it , I DONT DESIRE the death of even those who hate me
and will accuse me . BUT RATHER LIFE . so JESUS BE THE ONE I AM GONNA BE POITING TOO and all things HE did teach
and later the apostels did . THIS brother IS FIRED UP HUGE , big time , more than ever before .
And no storm , no threat , no nada can stop the TRUTH that i so dearly love and embrace
from being uttered out my lips or from my fingers as i type .
GOD is gonna get glorified on my watch , honored on my watch .
and if the SON be dishonored , THEN THAT MEANS the Father who sent him was dishonored .
HIT the trenches , grab hold sister , this train ride of encouraging and exhorting about the dire
need to FIRST BELEIVE ON JESUS is about to ROLL through as fire on a dry grass prairie with white gas as its fuel .
JESUS BE THE ONLY HOPE , so that IS WHOM I point too , HE is whom i point too . and folks better learn this real fast .
As i am sure YOU already do agree .

 

[Ritajanice]

This brother is back with an huge zeal , bigger than ever before
to remind all of and to continue to remind all of , THE DIRE NEED to FIRST BELEIVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
cause if one believeth not , heck tis all in vain .
I am more fired up now than ever before . We are running out of time
and i am watching another gospel , which is no gospel take over SITES now .
I make my final stand in this last hour . AND YOU CAN BET ITS GONNA BE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
to contend and to defend the true faith , that one true gospel that was first deliverd by JESUS
and then the apostels to every creature and site that has breath .
Folks can do to me as they will . and no matter how hated my message will be
or i will be for reminding about it , I DONT DESIRE the death of even those who hate me
and will accuse me . BUT RATHER LIFE . so JESUS BE THE ONE I AM GONNA BE POITING TOO and all things HE did teach
and later the apostels did . THIS brother IS FIRED UP HUGE , big time , more than ever before .
And no storm , no threat , no nada can stop the TRUTH that i so dearly love and embrace
from being uttered out my lips or from my fingers as i type .
GOD is gonna get glorified on my watch , honored on my watch .
and if the SON be dishonored , THEN THAT MEANS the Father who sent him was dishonored .
HIT the trenches , grab hold sister , this train ride of encouraging and exhorting about the dire
need to FIRST BELEIVE ON JESUS is about to ROLL through as fire on a dry grass prairie with white gas as its fuel .
JESUS BE THE ONLY HOPE , so that IS WHOM I point too , HE is whom i point too . and folks better learn this real fast .
As i am sure YOU already do agree .

So lovely to see our Brother back, I spotted our Brother before our Sister . @Marvelloustime

 

[amigo de christo]

So lovely to see our Brother back, I spotted our Brother before our Sister .

our sister will , LORD willing be here soon . she was helping me on another site . sister was encouraging me at another site .
The mission i am on dear sister , will be a mission that more and more will see as hate .
BUT ITS NOT . remember I POINT too and REMIND all about THE DIRE NECESSITY TO FIRST HAVE TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
I , by the SPIRIT do testify OF HIM . many no longer do
they rather testify about maybe doing some good works and loving your neighbor
or carrying your cross , BUT FAIL to remind anyone WE HAVE TO BELIEVE ON THAT ONE , aka JESUS THE CHRIST .
AND sister , THIS I WILL NOT DO or allow on my watch . Be encouraged .
and be fired up for the glorious LORD , this train ride might be bumpy
and you can bet folks will come against it , BUT ITS THE TRAIN RIDE FOR JESUS THE CHRIST . now hit them trenches sister .

 

[Episkopos]

I feel the chill of an ill wind in the air. But alas I stand on my rock Jesus Christ in face of all adversity and corruption. And it just so happens that this thread is about confronting the enemy and his counterfeits.

 

[Arthur81]

The most deceptive person on this forum, has falsely implied that im not.... "honest"..
Thats rich...




He's not talking to grave stones..... Paul is talking to believers.... Paul says......>>"as many as be thus minded".. ."as many as be perfect"..




That is an Old Testament verse, talking to Moses and the Jews.

There are no CHRISTIANS found in your verse... @Episkopos

You should burn your commentary set, as its a throne of LIES.

You write "Paul is talking to believers"; so, is that believers in Moses and the Old Covenant, or believers in Jesus and the New Covenant?

"Therefore, brothers, holy partners in a heavenly calling, consider that Jesus, the apostle and high priest of our confession, was faithful to the one who appointed him, just as Moses also “was faithful in all God’s house.” Yet Jesus is worthy of more glory than Moses, just as the builder of a house has more honor than the house itself." (Heb 3:1-3 NRSV)

"...looking to Jesus the pioneer and perfecter of our faith, who for the sake of the joy that was set before him endured the cross, disregarding its shame, and has taken his seat at the right hand of the throne of God." (Heb 12:2 NRSV)

"But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, and to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel." (Heb 12:22-24 NRSV)

To say that is an OT verse talking to Moses and the Jews is just plain moronic!

 

[Episkopos]

You write "Paul is talking to believers"; so, is that believers in Moses and the Old Covenant, or believers in Jesus and the New Covenant?

"Therefore, brothers, holy partners in a heavenly calling, consider that Jesus, the apostle and high priest of our confession, was faithful to the one who appointed him, just as Moses also “was faithful in all God’s house.” Yet Jesus is worthy of more glory than Moses, just as the builder of a house has more honor than the house itself." (Heb 3:1-3 NRSV)

"...looking to Jesus the pioneer and perfecter of our faith, who for the sake of the joy that was set before him endured the cross, disregarding its shame, and has taken his seat at the right hand of the throne of God." (Heb 12:2 NRSV)

"But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, and to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel." (Heb 12:22-24 NRSV)

To say that is an OT verse talking to Moses and the Jews is just plain moronic!

Who says there aren't any free thinking people on the forum anymore? Happy for your contribution.

Those who want to be deceived can indulge in twisting the meaning of scripture. It's almost a sport now.

But one wonders if the poster knows he is wrong or is just that muddled?

 

[Episkopos]

What kind of people seek to diminish or destroy the higher walk that is IN Christ? These people will seek to overturn the bible to have Paul speaking to dead people about dead people and wanting to be a dead person himself. Either that or they would have to admit that there is a kingdom of God realm that we are being called into....before we physically die.

Can a dead religion deviate many from the path of life? It's already happening...

 

[amigo de christo]

What kind of people seek to diminish or to destroy the orignal gospel that made darn sure
one had to FIRST believe on JESUS the CHRIST .
that be the far better question for all to have asked .
Trying to teach aspects to false religions or anyone
about what JESUS taught without TELLING them they must FIRST BELIEVE ON HIM
is all in vain . Its like trying to glue a tail onto a man and then claiming the man be a monkey .
Its in vain . that is but a man with a glued tail .
SO too is teaching the idea about a picking up a cross etc to those who believe not .
Its but a false religoin trying to attain its own way to heaven , its own method of picking up a cross
ITS VAIN my friend . Time to preach and to remind all about that dire need TO , the absolute dire need
to FIRST BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
teaching concepts JESUS and or later the apostels taught
but giving the idea this can be done or attained without FAITH , without FAITH in CHRIST
well , lets just say it didnt bode too well for the jews who too sought to attain
YET DID NOT DO SO THROUGH FAITH . theys got rooted out of their own tree .
THUS , its just not gonna bode well for those who do such a thing .

 

[Oneoff]