Since more children and people have been killed by Israel than in the terrorist attack, should they stop?

[Wrangler]

We will disagree. I see this as possibly the worst terrorism in human history.

It's war. Hamas started the war. Israel will finish it.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

So you want to destroy say half the people for the wrong vote?

I don't, they aren't attacking me. I'm at peace, retired, walking my dog, loving my wife and family ... life is good. But soon terrorists will bring their Jihad over here. Then we must defend oursleves. They will meet the wrath of Americans, gun owners, militia who have been waiting and training for this sort of thing.

Maybe Israel should not fence them in?

Israel has and will respond appropriately. You can fly over there and help them if you'd like. ??? Maybe offer a home for them, an extra room? You talk as if you have a heart for them but how far will that go? As far as Obama, Biden or Pelosi goes, just talk. Would they take refugees in their big mansions, take money out of their pockets? NO. I think I recall Obama's average annual charitble contributions of 1%. And if course Biden is a grifter, a thief who makes quid pro quo deals and has tens of million in dozens of foreign accounts. They don't want anything to do with them, don't want to live anywhere near them. And you ... you are just more talk and fuel for the antisemitic flame that is spreading.
Watch out ... Curse them and you will be cursed.

I think He is allowing the heart of unsaved Israel to be seen and will be justified in the things coming on that nation in the tribulation

Sure, God will punish them and 2/3 of the 16 million Jews will die for their unbelief, but a remnant will see the LIGHT. When? Likely when every eye sees Him coming in the clouds, they will realize that Jesus is the Messiah whom they waited on for all this time and they will mourn. Imagine the guilt. Or maybe these Two Witnesses will show and evangelize them? I'm not exactly sure how, but they will be enlightened. Rev. 7 speaks of the 144k from 12 tribes ( whom apparently God has reserved and sustained unbeknownst to the rest of us or even their records).

 

[Jack]

I don't, they aren't attacking me. I'm at peace, retired, walking my dog, loving my wife and family ... life is good. But soon terrorists will bring their Jihad over here. Then we must defend oursleves. They will meet the wrath of Americans, gun owners, militia who have been waiting and training for this sort of thing.

Kind of makes me wonder how many terrorists have poured into the US with the Dems open border policies.

 

[bluedragon]

Nothing to look up, you like many don’t know who Israel is. Light years ahead huh, the Bible declares Israel’s new home is north west of Palestine. Mr Buzz light year can’t read a map.

My point exactly! If you can't then do something else

BOMB THEM SO THE SHOOTERS DON"T EXIST ....

 

[dad]

The guilty could separate themselves from the innocent. But this is not how evil works. It is Hamas who uses human shields. It is dispicable and Hamas will not get away with it.

Not a realistic demand. So you have to face reality and leave the families alone

 

[dad]

It's war. Hamas started the war. Israel will finish it.

The world sees the heart of Israel now. Let's not be so sure of who will be finished.

 

[dad]

BOMB THEM SO THE SHOOTERS DON"T EXIST ....

You seem to be saying kill everyone?

 

[dad]

Kind of makes me wonder how many terrorists have poured into the US with the Dems open border policies.

Great excuse for marshal law

 

[dad]

I don't, they aren't attacking me. I'm at peace, retired, walking my dog, loving my wife and family ... life is good. But soon terrorists will bring their Jihad over here. Then we must defend oursleves. They will meet the wrath of Americans, gun owners, militia who have been waiting and training for this sort of thing.

If the militias exist where they attack and get there in time. Sounds like a false hope.

Israel has and will respond appropriately. You can fly over there and help them if you'd like. ???

Why would I help terrorism?

Maybe offer a home for them, an extra room? You talk as if you have a heart for them but how far will that go?

For who? I suspect it may not be the people you think that need to leave there.

As far as Obama, Biden or Pelosi goes, just talk. Would they take refugees in their big mansions, take money out of their pockets? NO.

Maybe if some Satanists ran into problems they might?

I think I recall Obama's average annual charitble contributions of 1%. And if course Biden is a grifter, a thief who makes quid pro quo deals and has tens of million in dozens of foreign accounts. They don't want anything to do with them, don't want to live anywhere near them. And you ... you are just more talk and fuel for the antisemitic flame that is spreading.
Watch out ... Curse them and you will be cursed.

False! First of all I am not cursing anyone, but pointing out that the terrorism inflicted on a huge population is a bad thing. Secondly Israel today is not saved and not believers and not eligible for the promises of God for land or protection etc. In fact anyone justifying the murder of innocents by them will have to answer to God about it.

Sure, God will punish them and 2/3 of the 16 million Jews will die for their unbelief, but a remnant will see the LIGHT. When? Likely when every eye sees Him coming in the clouds

I agree

, they will realize that Jesus is the Messiah whom they waited on for all this time and they will mourn. Imagine the guilt. Or maybe these Two Witnesses will show and evangelize them? I'm not exactly sure how, but they will be enlightened. Rev. 7 speaks of the 144k from 12 tribes ( whom apparently God has reserved and sustained unbeknownst to the rest of us or even their records).

Yes, one day they will come home to God and live happily ever after.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

In fact anyone justifying the murder of innocents by them will have to answer to God about it.

"Thou shalt not kill". Wait a minute, that is not correct. The correct translation should be, "Thou shalt not murder!"
There is a difference. The Hamas murdered people for selfish, religious, ideological or finacial reasons that were grounded in hate. Israel is killing people, not for selfish, religious, ideological or financial reasons. They are killing their enemies in a general act of war, in self defense. It's existential in scope and just in cause. Likely they have grown to hate their enemies ... well - who wouldn't. But their restraint over the last 75 years has been beyond merciful. In fact no other nation in history has been so merciful, maybe the USA comes in 2nd. Israel, if they had the heart of a Muslim terrorist, would wipe out most of the Muslim population on the planet in one hour. They have hundreds of nukes that they could target 50 Muslim countries. Iran wants to do that to Israel and they likely have 5 nukes, no match for Israel though. But they are cowards with their proxy wars, not directly attacking but supply other groups to do their evil deeds. Iran just sent missiles to Syria. Israel in turn destroyed a Syrian airport and so they are on to their moves. But a few nuclear tipped missiles may make their way through - then you will see a war, with no restraint.

 

[dad]

"Thou shalt not kill". Wait a minute, that is not correct. The correct translation should be, "Thou shalt not murder!"
There is a difference. The Hamas murdered people for selfish, religious, ideological or finacial reasons that were grounded in hate. Israel is killing people, not for selfish, religious, ideological or financial reasons. They are killing their enemies in a general act of war, in self defense. It's existential in scope and just in cause. Likely they have grown to hate their enemies ... well - who wouldn't. But their restraint over the last 75 years has been beyond merciful. In fact no other nation in history has been so merciful, maybe the USA comes in 2nd. Israel, if they had the heart of a Muslim terrorist, would wipe out most of the Muslim population on the planet in one hour. They have hundreds of nukes that they could target 50 Muslim countries. Iran wants to do that to Israel and they likely have 5 nukes, no match for Israel though. But they are cowards with their proxy wars, not directly attacking but supply other groups to do their evil deeds. Iran just sent missiles to Syria. Israel in turn destroyed a Syrian airport and so they are on to their moves. But a few nuclear tipped missiles may make their way through - then you will see a war, with no restraint.

One of the things that happens somewhere around the end is the destruction of Damascus as you likely know. If Israel used even a small nuke on Damascus and parts of Iran, I suspect the world would be ready to allow Turkey and Russia etc to come down and disarm them.
About the murder definition, when civilians are targeted that is not war but murder. Civilians get hurt in wars, but when a large population is targeted that is different. Most people seem to be recognizing that this is a war crime and terrorism it seems these days. I also consider warnings for hospitals and half of Gaza to flee in unsafe conditions is terrorism.

 

[Jack]

Not a realistic demand. So you have to face reality and leave the families alone

Maybe you should tell that to God.

1 Samuel 15
2 Thus says the LORD of hosts: 'I will punish Amalek for what he did to Israel, how he ambushed him on the way when he came up from Egypt. 3 Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.' "

 

[Wrangler]

Not a realistic demand.

Why are demands against Hamas always unrealistic but demands against Israel are?

 

[Jack]

Great excuse for marshal law

Glad you mentioned that. It's coming.

Revelation 13
7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation.

 

[dad]

Maybe you should tell that to God.

1 Samuel 15
2 Thus says the LORD of hosts: 'I will punish Amalek for what he did to Israel, how he ambushed him on the way when he came up from Egypt. 3 Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.' "

God is not an unbelieving nation. What He does is just.

 

[dad]

Why are demands against Hamas always unrealistic but demands against Israel are?

If we demand Hamas and Israel stop killing children and civilians that is not uneven. Why would you think Israel could do it but anyone else that does it is evil incarnate?

 

[Jack]

God is not an unbelieving nation. What He does is just.

I quoted a COMMAND from God to Israel!

1 Samuel 15
2 Thus says the LORD of hosts: 'I will punish Amalek for what he did to Israel, how he ambushed him on the way when he came up from Egypt. 3 Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.' "

 

[Jack]

If we demand Hamas and Israel stop killing children and civilians that is not uneven. Why would you think Israel could do it but anyone else that does it is evil incarnate?

And you think the Hamas MONSTERS will obey your "demand"? lol

 

[Truthnightmare]

Maybe you should tell that to God.

1 Samuel 15
2 Thus says the LORD of hosts: 'I will punish Amalek for what he did to Israel, how he ambushed him on the way when he came up from Egypt. 3 Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.' "

Do young know why God ordered this? Or are you just grabbing verses that you feel can align with your rational?

 

[Wrangler]

If we demand Hamas and Israel stop killing children and civilians that is not uneven. Why would you think Israel could do it but anyone else that does it is evil incarnate?

Initiation of violence on Oct 7 is what separates evil incarnate from Israel.

The ‘not civilian Palestinians’ carries ZERO weight given:

• Hamas targeted civilians, who were American, Canadian, Israeli, German and other countries.
• Hamas uses civilian Palestinians as human shields.