Since more children and people have been killed by Israel than in the terrorist attack, should they stop?

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

dad

Well-Known Member
Apr 17, 2020
3,495
448
83
65
private
normanbruleart.com
Faith
Christian
Country
Canada
How in the world do you get there from what I said? Again, Hamas can end this destructive conflict immediately by surrendering and save all the lives you are so worried about. They have the power.
Terrorists are not brave and noble if my guess is correct. That is an unrealistic expectation. So you think you should still bomb civilians?
 

dad

Well-Known Member
Apr 17, 2020
3,495
448
83
65
private
normanbruleart.com
Faith
Christian
Country
Canada
Suffering in peoples lives are all different - it's good to be cautious as a person who believes in God in what they could say especially to an unbeliever. Going around and saying well it was Gods will for people to die, might be a little to much and a far stretch. When someone has a brother or sister murdered. Was that really Gods will for them to die at that moment? Anyway, Idk so much about war, I rarely get into the topic and rarely watch the news to see anything about anything on the news about it. People assert themselves in those things which is fine, however ... the war is with us and our mind, towards darkness and towards light, and it is a need to seek Yahava, out in faith, and look for the Lord Yeshua, in order to have rest for ones soul.

I do not have to worry about Israel anymore - due to my belief in God having divorced them already... they are still people that are there, and I do not hate them nor look down on them. They just happen to live there in that country. All the best for things to turn around, but never know, same thing with wars in africa and other parts of the war, just like the war of ones own mind, the 'spiritual war' between spiritual wickedness, and the darkness of the world.

Therefore, when it comes down to it? People murder people, and terrorist murder people, and even people in America with families have brothers and sisters, or mothers, or fathers, end up murdering (their own families.) The world will never stop being full of darkness, and people love darkness more than the light.
I wasn't able to derive a position from your post. So, you think it is good or bad to mass murder civilians?
 

MatthewG

Well-Known Member
Apr 21, 2021
16,575
5,513
113
34
Fyffe
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I wasn't able to derive a position from your post. So, you think it is good or bad to mass murder civilians?

Happens. What can you do when a person runs up in a Mosaic and guns down people at church? It's sad that people got hurt and died. It happens. What can you do about it?

Change gun laws and what not? People get drugs off the street, without having to go to a pharmacy, in any country really.

It's not like it was you running up in the Mosaic. It was another self-willed individual.
 

dad

Well-Known Member
Apr 17, 2020
3,495
448
83
65
private
normanbruleart.com
Faith
Christian
Country
Canada
Happens. What can you do when a person runs up in a Mosaic and guns down people at church? It's sad that people got hurt and died. It happens. What can you do about it?
I can say it is not of God. So when I see apartments being blown up and thousands of civilians it is bad
Change gun laws and what not? People get drugs off the street, without having to go to a pharmacy, in any country really.

It's not like it was you running up in the Mosaic. It was another self-willed individual.
In this case it is a nation bombing a heavily populated area
 

MatthewG

Well-Known Member
Apr 21, 2021
16,575
5,513
113
34
Fyffe
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I can say it is not of God. So when I see apartments being blown up and thousands of civilians it is bad

In this case it is a nation bombing a heavily populated area

The only time anyone can try to prevent anything is if they catch wind of it, and report it to the police. What would you say? Tom Clancy it?
 

Truthnightmare

Well-Known Member
Dec 11, 2019
1,180
336
83
44
Athens
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I can say it is not of God. So when I see apartments being blown up and thousands of civilians it is bad

In this case it is a nation bombing a heavily populated area
I also don’t believe this is of God.

What do you say of?

2 Thus saith the Lord of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.

3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
 

Truthnightmare

Well-Known Member
Dec 11, 2019
1,180
336
83
44
Athens
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
The only time anyone can try to prevent anything is if they catch wind of it, and report it to the police. What would you say? Tom Clancy it?
That logic leans on the notion that things are just happening, but for some this is planned and orchestrated.
 

MatthewG

Well-Known Member
Apr 21, 2021
16,575
5,513
113
34
Fyffe
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
That logic leans on the notion that things are just happening, but for some this is planned and orchestrated.
They are happening. Based on individuals doing the actions. I watch a lot of police interragations, and have reviewed many murderous people and corrupt police and those who get caught for child pornography (chris hanson.)

Individuals plan and orchestrate things to get their own way… its no different than the garden of eden.

People plan to put a bomb and make it explode, people get an army up and go attack a whole country, people go and decide to murder, some people lose all control and mistakenly murder, people get caught heavily into porn and the addiction gets worse, etc…

What about for instance a volcano goes off, or a tornado rips through a city being an F5 which is just off nature.

Are these things part of Gods will to be done, or is just a property of a fallen world?
 

Jack

Well-Known Member
May 3, 2022
11,416
4,677
113
Midwest
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
OK. I expect His help for Gaza. Not the terrorists killing folks there
Where are they mentioned in the Bible? I found Israel over 2500 times. Israel is back to stay!

Ezekiel 36
24 For I will take you from among the nations, gather you out of all countries, and bring you into your own land.
25 Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols.
26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. 27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them.
28 Then you shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; you shall be My people, and I will be your God.
 

Truthnightmare

Well-Known Member
Dec 11, 2019
1,180
336
83
44
Athens
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
They are happening. Based on individuals doing the actions. I watch a lot of police interragations, and have reviewed many murderous people and corrupt police and those who get caught for child pornography (chris hanson.)

Individuals plan and orchestrate things to get their own way… its no different than the garden of eden.

People plan to put a bomb and make it explode, people get an army up and go attack a whole country, people go and decide to murder, some people lose all control and mistakenly murder, people get caught heavily into porn and the addiction gets worse, etc…

What about for instance a volcano goes off, or a tornado rips through a city being an F5 which is just off nature.

Are these things part of Gods will to be done?

Your question was answered as all are in the word of God.

Luke 13
2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?

3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?


5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Yes things happen, but what is happening now is by design. Jeremiah 24 speaks on this.
 

MatthewG

Well-Known Member
Apr 21, 2021
16,575
5,513
113
34
Fyffe
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
@Truthnightmare, what do you mean by “whats happening now is by design?” What is happening? Does it relate to the last days? Just curious to know that is all.
 

Truthnightmare

Well-Known Member
Dec 11, 2019
1,180
336
83
44
Athens
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
@Truthnightmare, what do you mean by “whats happening now is by design?” What is happening?
Prophecy…. When Jesus returns, He will
return to Jerusalem, and He is going to level
the place “no stone upon another” do you believe that the people in that land at this time are the chosen? You believe they are true Israel? God forbid!
 

Ronald David Bruno

Well-Known Member
Nov 7, 2020
4,628
2,320
113
Southern
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Here is an interesting perspective I heard from a soldier/ Navy Seal who battled in several wars. He said, during WWII, there were no humanitarian cries, protests nor aid to the German civilians. Peace and aid comes after war. A war is war and there are casualties, that's a given. Innocent people die. It's ugly, sad, that's reality.
But the Palastinians voted for the Hamas government. 58% of them (over 1 million) are in favor of what they are doing. The rest choose to live among terrorists.
Israel has made every effort and allowed more than enough time for them to flee, three weeks! A hurricane comes to the east coast and a half million people evacuate in two days. "Get out, bombs and death is coming ... HELLO! It's only 160 square miles. You could walk the whole length of the Gaza strip in a day with a back pack.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Eternally Grateful

Jack

Well-Known Member
May 3, 2022
11,416
4,677
113
Midwest
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Prophecy…. When Jesus returns, He will
return to Jerusalem, and He is going to level
the place “no stone upon another” do you believe that the people in that land at this time are the chosen? You believe they are true Israel? God forbid!
When He returns He will FIGHT for Israel.

Zechariah 14
12 And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.
 

MatthewG

Well-Known Member
Apr 21, 2021
16,575
5,513
113
34
Fyffe
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Prophecy…. When Jesus returns, He will
return to Jerusalem, and He is going to level
the place “no stone upon another” do you believe that the people in that land at this time are the chosen? You believe they are true Israel? God forbid!
Oh. I believe all those things done happened. Was reading Ezekiel, 5-9 the other day it reminded me of the destruction of Jerusalem reported by Josephus, back in ancient days. Most people have a problem with that. Thank you for the questions.
 

Truthnightmare

Well-Known Member
Dec 11, 2019
1,180
336
83
44
Athens
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Oh. I believe all those things done happened. Was reading Ezekiel, 5-9 the other day it reminded me of the destruction of Jerusalem reported by Josephus, back in ancient days. Most people have a problem with that. Thank you for the questions.
So you believe all these things have happened?

And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

When did the Abomination of Desolation happen?