Since more children and people have been killed by Israel than in the terrorist attack, should they stop?
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No, they went house to house and raped women in front of husbands and parents just before they slaughtered everyone in their own homes. Men, women, children and babies....even reports of cutting out fetuses and stabbing them while still attached to their dying mothers by umbilical cords.
They disrupted PEACE concerts and slaughtered everyone indiscriminately and then paraded their broken corpses as trophies through the streets.
And apartment buildings got knock warnings....where a small charge was dropped on the roof of the complex (used as a drone launch site) that didn't destroy the structural integrity....and then later another bomb would be dropped to destroyvthe entire building.
Palestinians are very familiar with this routine....it's not like they haven't been through it before.
And the Palestinians might have water if they hadn't used the water lines they had as launch tubes for rockets.
They would actually have infrastructure independent of Israel if they had bought infrastructure instead of rockets and drone bombs.
Terrorists give birth to more terrorists. There are only two kinds of combatants left in Norther Gaza.....armed and unarmed. The unarmed ones are going to die quickly while the armed are going to die while fighting.
Their telecom is getting cut off in about 6 hours. ..there won't be anymore heard from anyone soon. Because the fight is going South.
I know. But over 2/3 of them will be killed first as well as a lot of other things happen first.
No. you do not get to default to 'hypocrisy' when people do not mass murder children. I think that would be noble. Admirable.
No I was pointing out toddlers did not carry machine guns and kill Israelis.
So that means it is God ordained to blow up apartment buildings killing hundreds of kids? No. They should protect from enemies not bombard families. Find the enemy!
Why would he preach Christ? If all Israel turned to their Messiah, it would not matter if any enemy laid down arms or not. God would protect them and destroy all enemies.
Yes, hopefully the aid is for the bombed out in Gaza as well.
That's what happens when you bomb the hell out of a little strip of land that is heavily populated I guess. Who should we blame for that, Hamas?
It is not pacifist ideology to dislike mass murdering civilians on purpose. Especially when such actions are cheered on apparently by some christians. I suggested that the only way to be safe for Israel was to believe in their Messiah, Jesus. That would do a lot more than donating to a charity. If anyone is not interested in seeing that hundreds of children, babies and families are bombed to death as they are being bombed now, then I don't care what they think.
Either that or you aren't clear.
So blowing up apartments with children helps stop the hate? It is looking for a reason to hate by asking that the children not be blown up? Sorry, you are not a straight shooter.
Has delusion gotten so deep with you that you actually thank NOT blowing up children is hate???
To speak like that is dangerous, it risks demon possession.
Not relevant to Israel blowing up apartments full of people. We already know the terrorists are bad. No need to establish that. It is obvious. What is also bad is Israel killing all those civilians. That is what the thread is about.
So if you were a mom on the third floor of a 33 story building with 7 kids, you hear a knock knock on the roof?
Sure. All their water went into rockets now?? Or that they ripped out their own water lines to launch missiles through them?
So because they have less than great infrastructure, it OK to finish them off? What is that mercy killing?
So the toddlers are now unarmed combatants? Nice. That makes Dr Strangelove sound sane.
You sound all choked up about it.
The choice is kill hundreds of children of let Hamas kill all your people? No. How about find the enemy? They don't get to say 'well it's sooo hard to find those pesky enemies, so we'll jut mow down apartment after apartment'
BlessedPeace
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Ever read a Christian defend Hamas?
Nobody has.
It's nauseating. they're defending Hamas terrorism using children as a cover. And are repeatedly implying or saying outright,Israel deserves to be attacked.
There's no genuine sympathy for Israeli children because their deaths are the fault of Israel fighting back.
Every thread he starts is to promote Hamas having a right
to reach execute terrorist campaigns against Israel.
If Israel were wiped from the face of the ME by a Hamas attack, the new thread would insist they could not be surprised as it was a lot of time coming.
They're not actually concerned about the children. They're using children as a mask to promote anti-Israel terrorism.
Hamas trains their children in guerilla warfare to kill Jews. I E they train their kids to risk death just to kill Jews.
Now,for a dose of reality.
We step away from those pro-Hamas terrorist sympathizers,there are more than one (?) aboard, and realize Hamas slaughters babies and children. And takes kids hostage.
What has that got to do with this thread? Here we are looking at why civilians are being terrorized by Israel. I don't think there is anything else we could call it.
They are every bit as valuable and important as the children in Gaza
Who cares if Hamas terrorists are concerned about children? Shouldn't WE be?
The fact terrorists are bad guys is not in question or the topic here.
The topic is why is Israel who many think are supposed to be the good guys also killing children and much more than Hamas did?
What should we think about a small country that closes its own airport others built for them due to suicide bombings?
What should we say about a nation that scuttled its own docks when the civilians need to flee or whine about the lack of economic opportunities?
What do we tell a nation that digs up its own water lines to make weapons of war when they say their children are thirsty?
What do we tell that nation when they claim all their problems are someone else's fault?
What should we say about a nation that scuttled its own docks when the civilians need to flee or whine about the lack of economic opportunities?
What do we tell a nation that digs up its own water lines to make weapons of war when they say their children are thirsty?
What do we tell that nation when they claim all their problems are someone else's fault?
BarneyFife
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And the fact that you know no one here believes that they did makes that a straw man argument and not even a very good one, which is taking you down a road to unreasonable expectations.
Nothing of the kind. God knows that human wars produce collateral damage, but He ordains the civil governments to protect its citizens, in general, anyway.
Over-simplifying problems doesn't get them solved.
He wouldn't, but it was your idea.
And if we'd taken that position back in '41, we'd all be wearing either Rising Sun or Swastika arm bands and speaking either Japanese or German today.
That's the plan entirely. I don't think the Israelis need the money, do you?
No, that's what happens when you cut off means of sustenance that lead to mass deprivation. You're obsessed with select details of a serious problem, which is unhealthy and unhelpful.
It sure isn't.
Well, some might be happy that Palestinian babies are dying, but I'm hoping those folks are few and far between, aren't you?
Run that up their flag pole and see if anyone will salute it.
No, donating to a charity does something totally different that I can exercise some control over and actually helps the situation.
I don't really understand this sentence but I wonder if you have threads exhibiting as much sympathy for all the babies that are dying right now in Sudan, Ethiopia, Mexico, Myanmar, and central Africa. Or maybe the ones that are becoming fatherless and motherless in Russia and Ukraine?
If not, you might give some thought to the pacifist ideology business.
I can't help noticing you're from Canada. I hear that war is inordinately condemned there. In an evil world, it is profoundly regrettable, but necessary business.
Having said that, there's a lot of talk about all warring parties being responsible for civilian casualties under Geneva Convention law but there is another unwritten law that "might makes right" and it is upheld in nearly every war involving the West and its "allies."
Former Air Force Chief Of Staff General Curtis LeMay, who was in charge of the most devastating aerial bombardment in Germany and Japan once confided in former Secretary Of Defense Robert McNamara that if we'd lost WWII we could have easily been charged with and convicted justly of war crimes.
There is no such thing as a clean war. And:
"Satan delights in war; for it excites the worst passions of the soul, and then sweeps into eternity its victims steeped in vice and blood. It is his object to incite the nations to war against one another; for he can thus divert the minds of the people from the work of preparation to stand in the day of God." The Faith I Live By, p. 328 - EGW
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BarneyFife
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amigo de christo
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Preach the dire dire dire need to believe on Christ to every jew and gentile .
The great war against all fundamentlism is at the door .
They will use this as excuse to rid the earth of all fundamentalism .
But its a guise for satan to really come against the non conforming true christain .
They will use the dire deadly examples and then lump it all into the concept
that ANY kind of fundamentalist view is dangerous . Meaning the concept there is only one way to GOD .
GUESS WHO gonna be on that list . A hint folks like me , who though we would never harm a soul
We wont conform to the all inclusive love religoin to merge all as one . THAT is what is and what is coming .
Many folks will only embrace the idea that it is time to rid the earth
of all who wont conform to the love religoin that merged all as one . My advice
fear not what is or what is coming . PREACH JESUS and all biblical doctrine without fear of man .
Sie govt of jersuslam will be a key player in showing the world exactly how to do this.
My advice , beware because earthly jerusalem is a crooked is the rest of the nations .
OUR HOPE heavenly jerusalem . Preach JESUS CHRIST to both jew and gentile , to all that has breath .
NO matter the cost for doing so .
The great war against all fundamentlism is at the door .
They will use this as excuse to rid the earth of all fundamentalism .
But its a guise for satan to really come against the non conforming true christain .
They will use the dire deadly examples and then lump it all into the concept
that ANY kind of fundamentalist view is dangerous . Meaning the concept there is only one way to GOD .
GUESS WHO gonna be on that list . A hint folks like me , who though we would never harm a soul
We wont conform to the all inclusive love religoin to merge all as one . THAT is what is and what is coming .
Many folks will only embrace the idea that it is time to rid the earth
of all who wont conform to the love religoin that merged all as one . My advice
fear not what is or what is coming . PREACH JESUS and all biblical doctrine without fear of man .
Sie govt of jersuslam will be a key player in showing the world exactly how to do this.
My advice , beware because earthly jerusalem is a crooked is the rest of the nations .
OUR HOPE heavenly jerusalem . Preach JESUS CHRIST to both jew and gentile , to all that has breath .
NO matter the cost for doing so .
amigo de christo
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Hamas , the kkk , and all other terroist acts will be linked into the idea that all fundamentalist views are evil .
WHEN IN TRUTH its all other religoins that are false
and yes we do have some within christanity , who though they make the claim they follow the teachings of the bible
THEY DONT . THEY DONT .
YET the govts of the world will USE their terror as an excuse to say , SEE that is how all fundamnetalist are .
WHEN IN TRUTH they never knew CHRIST at all .
Fear not man , fear not what is coming and NEVER BUY the all inclusive false love religoin to merge all religoins as one .
Simply preach CHRIST , correct all error within the church . stay planted in the bible
and COUNT the cost , cause there is gonna be A COST .
WHEN IN TRUTH its all other religoins that are false
and yes we do have some within christanity , who though they make the claim they follow the teachings of the bible
THEY DONT . THEY DONT .
YET the govts of the world will USE their terror as an excuse to say , SEE that is how all fundamnetalist are .
WHEN IN TRUTH they never knew CHRIST at all .
Fear not man , fear not what is coming and NEVER BUY the all inclusive false love religoin to merge all religoins as one .
Simply preach CHRIST , correct all error within the church . stay planted in the bible
and COUNT the cost , cause there is gonna be A COST .
amigo de christo
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THEY do not care about the children , THEY SIMPLY USE this idea as though they do .
IF THEY cared about the children , THEN WHY DO THEY HIDE THEMSELVES within .
They are evil . They use children as a means to perhaps protect themselves . THEY DO NOT care for the children
they hide amongst the people . If they cared they would not hide amongst them and risk their lives .
No, it points out you treat babies as if they were little terrorists. That is not the heart of God. He is with the poor and widows and fatherless and downtrodden and oppressed.
Not true. He does not ordain anyone to attack children. You have your spirits mixed up.
I doubt it. Evil regimes have a tendency to fall apart over time. God's people can outlast them and maybe work on converting them. The war to end all wars did not end all wars. Notice? That was a big lie.
God loves all the children and nowhere is it good to kill civilians. In the case of Israel many preachers I have listened to said that believers should support and pray for Israel etc. So on a Christian forum it is interesting to see that such terrorism and murder of families is cheered on.
If Israel cared about children why blow up their apartments and them mow them down by air when they flee?
It is not false love to be against killing mostly women and children in convoys fleeing as told.
Dozens killed while fleeing Gaza homes as Israel conducts ground raids
Some Palestinians say they have decided to stay in their homes as there is nowhere safe they can escape to.
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