Sin and repentance

[thelord's_pearl]

Is it true that if you sinned many times (& for me I'm talking about the smaller sin but that you felt God was telling/prompting you to not do it anymore and that it's wrong and probably saying it's not safe to do so) and then you improved and had a repentant heart, was in the process of sinning again but turned from it and didn't actually do it anymore again, didn't do the end-product and also now that you have repented and turned away from it, is it true that according to the scriptures in the Holy Bible that if you were in danger, not safe, that God will be like 'I don't think she needs to learn from her lesson anymore because now she has a repentant heart and has repented and repents and turned from her sin and so I will protect her?' Is that the character of God or something else? Thank you so much! I hope you all really know and understand the scriptures all around the bible and can then apply them into situations that can be challenging for someone.

 

[Simonides]

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[quietthinker]

Is it true that if you sinned many times (& for me I'm talking about the smaller sin but that you felt God was telling/prompting you to not do it anymore and that it's wrong and probably saying it's not safe to do so) and then you improved and had a repentant heart, was in the process of sinning again but turned from it and didn't actually do it anymore again, didn't do the end-product and also now that you have repented and turned away from it, is it true that according to the scriptures in the Holy Bible that if you were in danger, not safe, that God will be like 'I don't think she needs to learn from her lesson anymore because now she has a repentant heart and has repented and repents and turned from her sin and so I will protect her? Is that the character of God or something else? Thank you so much! I hope you all really know and understand the scriptures all around the bible and can then apply them into situations that can be challenging for someone.

If you're talking about sexual behaviour/ issues, bugalugs, my approach is to cry out for help.
It's not necessary to second guess God. He knows my heart better than I know it myself. He knows the worst about me but thinks and speaks the best about me. I am his beloved child....and when I dwell on this, I am strengthened.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

bugalugs

bugalugs???

 

[thelord's_pearl]

If you're talking about sexual behaviour/ issues, bugalugs, my approach is to cry out for help.
It's not necessary to second guess God. He knows my heart better than I know it myself. He knows the worst about me but thinks and speaks the best about me. I am his beloved child....and when I dwell on this, I am strengthened.

Oh no! I'm not talking about sexual behavior/issues. I was just talking about posting my picture online many times as a superficial, worldly sin, nothing deep and that's not Godly and eternal/lasting things and the motive was for people to see my picture and then like me and then I will feel good about myself because I was bored and don't have much of a social life (but will be visiting a new church in the spring and have the goal to study my Study Bible to know and understand the bible really well) but eventually I repented but I started to worry that I'm probably not safe causing my head to not feel completely free/released of tension/constriction because the enemy is attacking me for something I'm not so learned it So my original post was explaining a situation like that and asking what is the truth about God's character in a situation like mine? That would really be comforting as I was to be free from that worry, fear and anxiety.

Sister, I'm having a difficult time understanding your question.

Are you asking if after you have repented and turned from your sin, will God then protect you from the consequences of that sin, or from that same sin in the future? Or is there something else I am missing?

I hope it is clear to you what I am asking now that I posted in response to quietthinker.

Yes that's right, I am asking if after I have repented and turned from my sin after previously ignoring what I feel God was telling me many times (that I shouldn't do it anymore, that it's wrong, probably saying it's not safe) sinning many times before, if God's character is like one who will protect me ''if'' I was in danger (I am unlikely in any danger) because will He be like 'now that she has repented, I will now protect her, I don't think there's a reason for her to learn her lesson anymore', similar to how God was like in Exodus and Deuteronomy it seems, something like He was like (If you... then... etc... if you turn from sin then I will heal you... something like that except I can't really remember everything I read in the bible. I didn't pay attention to that theme when I read the whole bible in the past so I am not really learned in that. So yeah, will He protect from the consequence of sin, if I was in danger... but I am unlikely in danger. I just have been worried it's possible.

 

[quietthinker]

Oh no! I'm not talking about sexual behavior/issues. I was just talking about posting my picture online many times as a superficial, worldly sin, nothing deep and that's not Godly and eternal/lasting things and the motive was for people to see my picture and then like me and then I will feel good about myself because I was bored and don't have much of a social life (but will be visiting a new church in the spring and have the goal to study my Study Bible to know and understand the bible really well) but eventually I repented but I started to worry that I'm probably not safe causing my head to not feel completely free/released of tension/constriction because the enemy is attacking me for something I'm not so learned it So my original post was explaining a situation like that and asking what is the truth about God's character in a situation like mine? That would really be comforting as I was to be free from that worry, fear and anxiety.

I hope it is clear to you what I am asking now that I posted in response to quietthinker.

Yes that's right, I am asking if after I have repented and turned from my sin after previously ignoring what I feel God was telling me many times (that I shouldn't do it anymore, that it's wrong, probably saying it's not safe) sinning many times before, if God's character is like one who will protect me ''if'' I was in danger (I am unlikely in any danger) because will He be like 'now that she has repented, I will now protect her, I don't think there's a reason for her to learn her lesson anymore', similar to how God was like in Exodus and Deuteronomy it seems, something like He was like (If you... then... etc... if you turn from sin then I will heal you... something like that except I can't really remember everything I read in the bible. I didn't pay attention to that theme when I read the whole bible in the past so I am not really learned in that. So yeah, will He protect from the consequence of sin, if I was in danger... but I am unlikely in danger. I just have been worried it's possible.

Can you believe it, God loves you more than he loves himself; that's the nature of his character.

 

[Lambano]

I don't feel the Holy Spirit is telling me that. In fact, in my Study Bible, in the explanations in tiny letters it talks about true repentance where God brings about a change in your attitudes and behaviors and you forsake/turn from your sins. You don't do it anymore. It's not like you just confess, do it again, confess, do it again and confess, do it again. That's not what scriptures say from how I am understanding it.

Sigh. Sometimes God does immediately remove the urge to commit a particular sin. (Give Him thanks and glory!) But real change is often slow. Sometimes it never comes at all in this life. It's called "besetting sins". Sexual sins, alcohol and drug abuse, accumulating material goods you don't need, short-temperedness, outbursts of anger, pride, envy, self-centeredness... You get convicted, confess it, promise God you'll do better, ask for Him to remove it - and then you do it again.

That great saint Paul himself apparently knew what that was like. The only answer is the one God gave him:

And you still keep fighting it.

(For those who would argue that Paul's "thorn in the flesh" had to be a physical ailment like sciatica, I would counterargue that Paul uses the term "Flesh" to refer to the human sin-nature in his writings, and he attributes the "thorn" to the Tempter. You can look up what Bishop John Shelby Spong theorizes it was. I disagree with Bishop Spong; we KNOW Paul had pride issues.)

 

[Johann]

Sigh. Sometimes God does immediately remove the urge to commit a particular sin. But real change is often slow. Sometimes it never comes at all in this life. It's called "besetting sins". Sexual sins, alcohol and drug abuse, accumulating material goods you don't need, short-temperedness, outbursts of anger, pride, envy, self-centeredness... You get convicted, confess it, promise God you'll do better, ask for Him to remove it - and then you do it again.

That great saint Paul himself apparently knew what that was like. The only answer is the one God gave him:

(For those who would argue that Paul's "thorn in the flesh had to be a physical ailment like sciatica, I would counterargue that Paul uses "Flesh" to refer to the human sin-nature in his writings. You can look up what Bishop John Shelby Spong theorizes what it was. I disagree with Bishop Spong; we KNOW Paul had pride issues.)

I believe that, in one way or another, we all struggle with issues of pride.

J.

 

[thelord's_pearl]

Sigh. Sometimes God does immediately remove the urge to commit a particular sin. (Give Him thanks and glory!) But real change is often slow. Sometimes it never comes at all in this life. It's called "besetting sins". Sexual sins, alcohol and drug abuse, accumulating material goods you don't need, short-temperedness, outbursts of anger, pride, envy, self-centeredness... You get convicted, confess it, promise God you'll do better, ask for Him to remove it - and then you do it again.

That great saint Paul himself apparently knew what that was like. The only answer is the one God gave him:

And you still keep fighting it.

(For those who would argue that Paul's "thorn in the flesh" had to be a physical ailment like sciatica, I would counterargue that Paul uses the term "Flesh" to refer to the human sin-nature in his writings, and he attributes the "thorn" to the Tempter. You can look up what Bishop John Shelby Spong theorizes it was. I disagree with Bishop Spong; we KNOW Paul had pride issues.)

That's comforting to know, that real change can be a process so that actually it would be loving if through the times I've ignored God and still did my own thing and didn't really get it that maybe through prayer that God actually revealed scripture to me I wasn't well-versed and didn't catch or know about that it was in there and made the sin more glaring and also I know that God is love and love is patient that in those times He was probably actually patient with me in his character. I really want to get rid of this behavior because I don't like the idea and everything and being under Satan's rules and regulations so I repent. I think God wants to remove this behavior and probably also this chapter in my life to a close/halt. So what is ''besetting sin''? I've never heard of that before.

 

[Lambano]

So what is ''besetting sin''? I've never heard of that before.

That's the sin you just can't seem to shake, no matter how hard you try and how many times you ask God to remove the desire. Don't let anyone tell you it doesn't happen to "real Christians". I listed a few. Brother Quietthinker mentioned sexual sins; an ungodly (pun intended) percentage of Christian men struggle repeatedly with lust-related issues (it's the testosterone, folks), as do more than a few Christian women. Brother Johann said that the sins of pride are pretty much universal, and I think he's spot on, especially if you include in the "pride" category things like narcissism and general self-centeredness.

 

[Johann]

That's the sin you just can't seem to shake, no matter how hard you try and how many times you ask God to remove the desire. Don't let anyone tell you it doesn't happen to "real Christians". I listed a few. Brother Quietthinker mentioned sexual sins; an ungodly (pun intended) percentage of Christian men struggle repeatedly with lust-related issues (it's the testosterone, folks), as do more than a few Christian women. Brother Johann said that the sins of pride are pretty much universal, and I think he's spot on, especially if you include in the "pride" category things like narcissism and general self-centeredness.

Hebrews 12:1, which speaks about sin that entangles or hinders believers in their spiritual race:

Hebrews 12:1 (KJV):
"Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us."

In this verse, the phrase "the sin which doth so easily beset us" refers to sin that entangles, hinders, or trips up a believer in their spiritual journey. The writer encourages believers to lay aside these sins in order to run the race of faith with perseverance.

Thanks brother.

J.

 

[quietthinker]

When I pour concrete I have this unspoken expectation that it beset....and sure enough, in 24 hrs it has heeded my thoughts and well on the way to being set....or should I say, beset!
......alright, alright, you can line me up at the fence....but shoot me quick.

 

[Lambano]

Hebrews 12:1, which speaks about sin that entangles or hinders believers in their spiritual race:

Hebrews 12:1 (KJV):
"Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us."

In this verse, the phrase "the sin which doth so easily beset us" refers to sin that entangles, hinders, or trips up a believer in their spiritual journey. The writer encourages believers to lay aside these sins in order to run the race of faith with perseverance.

Thanks brother.

J.

After reading Johann's append and looking up the Hebrews 12:1 reference, the word translated as "besetting" conjures up imagery of a runner caught in a pack, unable to break free and in danger of stumbling. A brother in Christ whom I love is an enthusiast for automobile racing and would no doubt relate it to a driver trapped in a pack of cars and in danger of getting into a wreck. And that dear brother knows a thing or two about sin turning his life into a multicar pile-up. (Alcohol was involved.) Thus begins the 2000-year-old tradition of preachers using sports metaphors to convey their message; see also 1 Corinthians 9:24-27.

 

[amigo de christo]

Is it true that if you sinned many times (& for me I'm talking about the smaller sin but that you felt God was telling/prompting you to not do it anymore and that it's wrong and probably saying it's not safe to do so) and then you improved and had a repentant heart, was in the process of sinning again but turned from it and didn't actually do it anymore again, didn't do the end-product and also now that you have repented and turned away from it, is it true that according to the scriptures in the Holy Bible that if you were in danger, not safe, that God will be like 'I don't think she needs to learn from her lesson anymore because now she has a repentant heart and has repented and repents and turned from her sin and so I will protect her? Is that the character of God or something else? Thank you so much! I hope you all really know and understand the scriptures all around the bible and can then apply them into situations that can be challenging for someone.

IN part YES . but do remember this , EVEN DAVID repented and was NOW safe
but he paid a price for his sin . So while GOD SURELY will forgive us
this does not mean we often might not pay a price for the wrong we did .
The Sword never left davids house . His own son betrayed him and etc .

 

[thelord's_pearl]

So in my situation, if I repented, I still 'might' pay a price if I am not safe (which is unlikely but it's possible) but that I will be safe. Or are you saying that I might suffer from someone doing something bad to me but in the end I will be safe again and not that my life will be over? Is that how God's character is like? Those are all running in my thoughts. Thank you so much everyone for your help in discussing this with me!

 

[amigo de christo]

So are you saying that in my situation, I 'might' pay a price if I am not safe (which is unlikely but it's possible) but that I will be safe. Or are you saying that I might suffer from someone doing something bad to me but in the end I will be safe and not that my life will be over? Those are all running in my thoughts. Thank you so much everyone for your help in discussing this with me!

Sister worry not . The key is you were led to repent of the evil .
Worry not over the morrow . Let us just focus on doing good and stay refreshed in bible doctrine .
Let us be learning the scrips and growing . The KEY is you were LED to repent . So let us look no longer backwards
The deal is done . its in the past now . Today let us focus on the LORD
for yesterday is gone and tomorrow will have its own evils to face .
Right now , ITS LORD PRAISING TIME sister . You go on now , You raise those hands
and let the praises with thanksgivings begin .
Go on sister , go over and turn on some old gospel songs and you dance praise around that house
and if you are unable to dance due to an imfirmity , YOU just raise them hands and sing those praises to the LORD .

 

[amigo de christo]

So are you saying that in my situation, I 'might' pay a price if I am not safe (which is unlikely but it's possible) but that I will be safe. Or are you saying that I might suffer from someone doing something bad to me but in the end I will be safe and not that my life will be over? Those are all running in my thoughts. Thank you so much everyone for your help in discussing this with me!

sister what do you mean by IF i am not safe .

 

[ShineTheLight]

Can you believe it, God loves you more than he loves himself; that's the nature of his character.

And he also wants people to repent. In order to abide in him.

Revelation 3:19
As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

Hebrews 12:4-8
4 In striving against sin, ye have not yet resisted unto bloodshed.
5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children: “My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked by Him;
6 for whom the Lord loveth He chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom He receiveth.”
7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then ye are bastards and not sons.

Proverbs 3:11-12
11 My son, despise not the chastening of the Lord; neither be weary of his correction:
12 For whom the Lord loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

Job 5:17-18
17 Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty:
18 For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole.

 

[ShineTheLight]

Is it true that if you sinned many times (& for me I'm talking about the smaller sin but that you felt God was telling/prompting you to not do it anymore and that it's wrong and probably saying it's not safe to do so) and then you improved and had a repentant heart, was in the process of sinning again but turned from it and didn't actually do it anymore again, didn't do the end-product and also now that you have repented and turned away from it, is it true that according to the scriptures in the Holy Bible that if you were in danger, not safe, that God will be like 'I don't think she needs to learn from her lesson anymore because now she has a repentant heart and has repented and repents and turned from her sin and so I will protect her?' Is that the character of God or something else? Thank you so much! I hope you all really know and understand the scriptures all around the bible and can then apply them into situations that can be challenging for someone.

You want to repent of sins because then you'll be yoked with or in bondage to things that are not of God.

Have you felt like you were tired of things being a certain way? Like, if you were tired of living a certain way. I did.

Romans 13:5
Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

For instance, I fell into gluttony and drunkenness. I've had to fight this. The word of God says that these can make you sleepy and have spiritual poverty (Proverbs 23:21). It can attract slothful spirits. I've had to kill off slothful spirits in me.

I think you know about the one on those hiding their sins not going to prosper in the book of proverbs. There's this other one.

Jeremiah 5:25
Your iniquities have turned away these things, and your sins have withholden good things from you.

When you're in bondage to sin, the sin(s) can hold back good things from you.

The best way to know what is going on with you in the spirit is to keep track of what you have seen in your dreams. Do that and address the things you see. As Galatians says, the spirit and flesh war against each other. You want to confront the things in your flesh, and do the things of the spirit that make you right with God.

A new section was made on dreams and visions. It is fairly new. I think it would help you if you spend time there. I was planning on posting stuff in the section that could do something. Will you visit the section? Provided you find items of interest.

 

[Davy]

Is it true that if you sinned many times (& for me I'm talking about the smaller sin but that you felt God was telling/prompting you to not do it anymore and that it's wrong and probably saying it's not safe to do so) and then you improved and had a repentant heart, was in the process of sinning again but turned from it and didn't actually do it anymore again, didn't do the end-product and also now that you have repented and turned away from it, is it true that according to the scriptures in the Holy Bible that if you were in danger, not safe, that God will be like 'I don't think she needs to learn from her lesson anymore because now she has a repentant heart and has repented and repents and turned from her sin and so I will protect her?' Is that the character of God or something else? Thank you so much! I hope you all really know and understand the scriptures all around the bible and can then apply them into situations that can be challenging for someone.

That's sort of it.

In 1 John 1, Apostle John showed that we still need to repent and ask forgiveness of future sin we may commit. And then Lord Jesus is Just to forgive us and cleanse us.

1 John 1:7-10
7 But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanseth us from all sin.

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.
KJV


Apostle John in the next 1 John 2 chapter showed that the above he was saying was to brethren believers...

1 John 2:1-3
2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

2 And He is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

3 And hereby we do know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.
KJV

Just by John telling us to sin not means we are still able to have sin after believing on Jesus Christ and being baptized. It's about our 'walk'. If we are having a problem with a particular sin, we need to ask Lord Jesus to help us overcome it, and according to our faith and strength, He will help us, in many cases removing the desire that causes the sin.

John saying that by keeping Christ's commandments is how to know that we know Jesus Christ. So that's something to consider for all Christians, since the devil is busy telling us that God's commandments are all done away with and nailed to Christ's cross, which is a huge lie (see 1 Timothy 1; 1 Corinthians 6; and Galatians 5).