Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ
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I noticed he doesn't really respond personally to some members.
And, yes, it does seem obsessive to go on and on about it.
Good point about the face covering.
I had listened to the talks of one of the original photographers ( I think) but I can't remember his name or how to look for it on YouTube.
It was the best talk I'd ever heard. Wish I could find it.
Maybe I'll obsess a little bit and keep looking for it!
LOL
I'm not going on and on about it.. I just saw the Sword that piercing Mary's heart. . on the Shroud just now in real time. That's been there for at least 600 years now. I'm the very first in the world to see it.
Jesus says the devil , hasatan, has that power - permitted by God the Creator,
the devil is given the power to deceive all those who reject Jesus, i.e. all the world, except a few the remnant in Jesus.
All power, all authority, in Jesus' Name, can save a soul, only in Jesus' Name
if the person repents of worshiping (serving) demons.
In Revelation it is written that the whole world , two thirds who is left, refuses to repent of worshiping (serving) demons.
the devil is given the power to deceive all those who reject Jesus, i.e. all the world, except a few the remnant in Jesus.
All power, all authority, in Jesus' Name, can save a soul, only in Jesus' Name
if the person repents of worshiping (serving) demons.
In Revelation it is written that the whole world , two thirds who is left, refuses to repent of worshiping (serving) demons.
Yes,
the deceptions and visions and even miracles of the devil, to deceive you, and of the demons, are seen in real time, and otherwise also perhaps - in all the cases, they are deceiving and destroying or seeking to destroy your soul/ men's souls, everywhere.
If the devil has that Power than hes Your God. I don't attribute these miracles to the devil but to Jesus Christ.
600 years and its under everyone's noses!
No wonder Luke saw me.
The One True God tells us and warns us that the devil has the power to deceive you, the power granted to the devil by God, the One True God.
We in Christ chose to follow Jesus, and you chose to follow the devil/ images/ frauds.
The shroud you post about was always known by God, Christ, and Jesus' disciples as a fraud of the devil and those following the devil, and others who are simply greedy for power or for money.
[/QUOTE]I asked the same thing but never got it. She thinks it was created using a "pinhole camera"
I searched but only found an explanation of how it could be done, couldn't find a demonstration but.
I have a theory that some people who are strict sola scripture do not accept any kind of modern revelation.
I could be wrong but its the only explanation i have for the hostility there is towards it.[/QUOTE]
The shroud was NOT done with a pin-hole camera or any camera.
It's impossible to recreate using ANY method.
I don't know why Protestants should be against the Shroud.
Maybe they just don't like the idea of basing their faith on it...which I'd have to agree with.
I'm still looking for a great talk on YouTube.....
BTW,,,,John is gone.
Gosh,,,why would you say the above?
What power?
What money?
Be careful. Saying the Shroud is of the devil might be blasphemous.
It might be real.
It is not any kind of modern revelation - it is an ages old deception by the same ones who have been deceptive for centuries.
Catholics and Protestants have been deceived by it.... no surprise today.
Catholics and Protestants have been deceived by it.... no surprise today.
It is "real" ! SOMEONE MADE IT. It is a true and real FRAUD! A lot of people seek to maintain or get attention, power, and money because of or from it, same as why deception is so common throughout all the centuries , as God Says in the Bible. Beware!
The Shroud is real evidence anybody can look at.. blurting out its fake, its a trick, its the devil.. its unreal.. its a phony.. make you look uneducated around here.
God gave me this knowledge to share with you.
God gave me this knowledge to share with you.
Around the whole world, politic and religious and medical society and heretics, I do not expect any more than Jesus to be accepted.
What qualifies as a miracle to you? The Shroud in my book is the best miracle I have seen ever! Nothing tops this! Except Our Lady of Guadalupe! Its equal to this!
Oh, it might be a miracle by some definitions... it is from the devil.
It has only been used as an attempt to deceive billions of people, just like other things from that source.
Take a closer look Mr Tong and Jospeh.. lil sword handle is in the detailing on the Shroud. Only a God has that power to put that there 600 years ago. You can look closer and see her roses across her heart!
If you don't believe after seeing this.. than you deserve to blind forever and ever!
If you don't believe after seeing this.. than you deserve to blind forever and ever!
The whole thing, start to finish, is of the devil in origin, in promoting it, and in believing in it.
All that is true is not being presented at all - when the light comes, all that darkness is instantly gone.
The darkness is very great - when just the eye is dark, the whole body is full of darkness - with no truth ....
All that is true is not being presented at all - when the light comes, all that darkness is instantly gone.
The darkness is very great - when just the eye is dark, the whole body is full of darkness - with no truth ....
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