Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ
- Thread starter brian100
- Start date
-
Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.
You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.
We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!
I am well aware that Jesus died for me thank you. I have never said the shroud does not exist, I have never said that it is not real all I have said is that I personally do not need it myself to know that Jesus died on the cross, shed his blood, was buried, and rose from the dead.
Rita
Last edited by a moderator:
So knowing what I found on the Shroud has no bearing on your faith at all? Anyone can see what I saw now. For me it makes the Parable of the Sower more deep rooted. It backs my faith up with God himself.
Whether or not the Shroud of Turin is real, it should not be idolized, the shroud was a linen cloth used to bury a body whether if it was Jesus's or not I don't know.
But no item is to be worshipped, the shroud is not to be worshipped, you shall only worship the Lord Jesus Christ.
It is better to focus on the one true Living God and not a shroud.
Bobby, I have been addressing my own personal alignment to the shroud. When did I say it wasn’t real, it may well be relevant to some, but it doesn’t mean I have to fall about in Adoration about it. It also doesn’t mean that I cannot share my thoughts about preferring to encounter the living Lord Jesus personally and sharing that I have faith and trust in him.
When did I say we didn’t need the bible , or understand the relevance of assessing artefacts. Up until a few years ago I had never really heard about the shroud - so why after 35 years of coming to faith would I suddenly start to need proof , personally, of the Lord shedding his blood for me.
Being aware of the shroud is one thing, using it as a means of worship and as your main focus is quite another.
Rita
Last edited by a moderator:
Where did it say I prayed to it? Its scientific proof of God and which religion he identifies to. But if I cold touch it .. and say a prayer.. yes I will.
It sounds to me like you are putting too much faith into the shroud. You should be putting your faith in God.
Would you know there was really a God without the Shroud? I believed my parents, but I still looked for myself.
Let me ask you if you think all people die. And if you say yes, then why do you believe in God?
Yes I knew that God is real. Even before I had heard of the shroud.
NO you believed in God on blind faith. What I showed you here today is not blind faith.
"I no longer hope the Shroud is real."
I have already relayed that my faith in the Lord is sound and solid. I already believe and know Jesus shed his blood for me and rose from the dead. As for Mary, his mother - I do not worship her. I respect and admire her for being willing to be used by God in such a special way.
Rita
Can you please explain your refusal to pray to Mary (prior all I knew was Hail Mary) like I do with Miraculous medal. I'm interested in why. I did pray to Mary and saw Luke. Seeing a Luke gives me hope God will let me in heaven. Now I know to give all my money to Jesus, b/c giving it to my Son will make devil get him. I'm mainly doing it for my 'Beloved'. Plus I'm taking extra pennies for other people.
Everyone tried to beat Mary out of me for 40 years. That's why I decoded the Shroud... to prove my faith to everyone. I told God as a kid what this little boy can do for him.. like a Saint faith. Could I ever! Go look to see who decoded this Shroud before me. Everybody was blind to it until now. You guys are first to see it. I know I did not know this all own my own. But God did know I would be like Constantine who would go out an use it to conquer.
You'll always say to yourself what if Brian is right, and think you are Thy seed against Mary. Say a Miraculous medal prayer to Mary to help you understand this. Its the easiest Prayer I've ever learned.
Last edited:
I pray to Jesus, why would I pray to Mary when I can go direct to the lord himself !?
Sadly I don’t think I will wonder whether you are right and I am certainly not going to pray using a medal.
Rita
I'm sure you will never reveal why.
You'll just have to wait for something to change your mind, then. God will make you think about this... He will make it bug you day and night.
Then come back here and say Brian I did pray to Mary.
You'll just have to wait for something to change your mind, then. God will make you think about this... He will make it bug you day and night.
Then come back here and say Brian I did pray to Mary.
I already have, I pray to Jesus. The bible does not instruct me, or give me any leading to pray to Mary or a medal.
Rita
Rita
He is my redeemer, my saviour, he is God , immanual. He died for me. I am His child, he is my king ..........
Similar threads
