Should they sharpen sword

[Lambano]

Do you reload for your 44?

We go to an indoor range, and they have some strict rules on what ammunition you can use. It pretty much limits us to factory ammo.

Now, if I changed my favorite vigilante to Deadpool (my son's favorite), those Desert Eagles look seriously cool, but the range doesn't allow .50 cal ammunition. And I ain't dropping 3-large on one.

 

[My Dreams]

Open post …….
Unbelievers, have posted on social media to gather, attack Christians, with weapons kill everyone, assault woman children.

Should these believers sharpen sword and attack and kill these unbelievers if they attack. It's their own place village and houses but others with attack because they are believers.

Thank you!……..

@My Dreams
This is in response to your last post aimed at Jay. I can see no prayer request in your opening post, all I see is a question. Given that this is in the General Forum and asks a question, it is only natural that people are going to respond with their thoughts on what you have shared.
Jay was just offering some thoughts , like the rest of us xx

Jay Ross shared something, I donot agree Jay was just offering some thoughts, like few others.

Here is what Jay Ross shared.

Mydream, you are more fortunate than those of us who live in countries that at present does not demand us to demonstrate our faith and trust in the Lord, like you must in the Indian sub-continent.

What I see in your prayer requests is your fear and lack of faith and trust in God and your continual expectation on others to pray for the outcomes you desire, rather than you taking on that responsibility for yourself, asking God to Grow your faith and trust in Him as you, in your own way, attempt to demonstrate God's Glory in your own life. That is what every believer should be doing.

 

[My Dreams]

I think Jay Ross should say sorry!, for what he shared to me

 

[MA2444]

We go to an indoor range, and they have some strict rules on what ammunition you can use. It pretty much limits us to factory ammo.

Now, if I changed my favorite vigilante to Deadpool (my son's favorite), those Desert Eagles look seriously cool, but the range doesn't allow .50 cal ammunition. And I ain't dropping 3-large on one.

Those Desert Eagles come in 44 mag also. My brother used to (way back in the day!) have one and he only paid $600 back then! It was too large to be practical in my mind and def not for 3K! Whoa!

BTW, I've been reloading for well over 45-50 years now and I've never blown up a gun. I don't know anyone who has blown up a gun with reloads. I know 2 or 3? People who have blown up guns with Factory Ammuntion! So there's that...

It's not rocket science. There's a bunch of little stuff to know but it isnt hard to make great ammo without any incidents. Always start with the starting loads and work up the load slowly especially if you use oversize boolits like I do. It's mostly common sense.

 

[Jay Ross]

I think Jay Ross should say sorry!, for what he shared to me

Sorry, but you are showing a great lack of understanding in your responses in this thread, particularly with what I have posted.

Yes, the Lord will give us the desires of our hearts if we are His saints/people, but if we are the Lord's saints then our desires of our heart will be what God's desires for our wellbeing.

Christ encouraged His Saints to take up their own cross and to follow Him as His disciples. To take up our cross means that we do not fear death.

How many times have you expressed your fears in your prayer requests. Now when you tell us that you are feeling sick, the number of similar threads that are listed, that you have made, completely fills that section of the thread page.

What does this tell those who have discernment about you and your relationship with God?

With all of your prayer requests to overcome your fears, why is it that you have not Grown stronger in your faith.

Remember that Christ told us not to worry about what defence we should present when we are being taken before the courts by the people around us, and that He would give us the words to speak into that situation.

Stephen, before he was stoned to death, gave his defence against the Sanhedrin, but they did accept his defence and subsequently stoned him to death. He showed no fear in his situation and as he breathed his last breath, he told what he saw in Heaven. Do you have that strength in your faith and trust in the Lord as Stephen demonstrated as he died.

That is the backbone/courage that all of Christ's disciples should have, even me.

Sharpen sticks to defend ourselves is not always the way God works, when He requires us to be prepared to lay down our lives so that His Glory can be seen in how we respond in the circumstances that we may find ourselves in.

 

[Debp]

I think Jay Ross should say sorry!, for what he shared to me

@My Dreams This is meant to be helpful advice....I hope you will take it as such. (This is how we all grow as Christians, willing to listen.) But have you considered "turning the other cheek" as Jesus taught us to do? Just ignore things, forgive. 1 Corinthians 13 says "love takes no offense."

If we want to be spiritually healthy, we must learn to apply God's Word to our lives. That is the only way to grow spiritually.

@Nancy @Ritajanice Including you gals since you often pray for MD.

 

[talons]

Remember that Christ told us not to worry about what defence we should present when we are being taken before the courts by the people around us, and that He would give us the words to speak into that situation.

Stephen, before he was stoned to death, gave his defence against the Sanhedrin, but they did accept his defence and subsequently stoned him to death. He showed no fear in his situation and as he breathed his last breath, he told what he saw in Heaven. Do you have that strength in your faith and trust in the Lord as Stephen demonstrated as he died.

@My Dreams did not say anything about going to court , he was telling us about the executioners showing up ! No trial .

 

[My Dreams]

Sorry, but you are showing a great lack of understanding in your responses in this thread, particularly with what I have posted.

Yes, the Lord will give us the desires of our hearts if we are His saints/people, but if we are the Lord's saints then our desires of our heart will be what God's desires for our wellbeing.

Christ encouraged His Saints to take up their own cross and to follow Him as His disciples. To take up our cross means that we do not fear death.

How many times have you expressed your fears in your prayer requests. Now when you tell us that you are feeling sick, the number of similar threads that are listed, that you have made, completely fills that section of the thread page.

What does this tell those who have discernment about you and your relationship with God?

With all of your prayer requests to overcome your fears, why is it that you have not Grown stronger in your faith.

Remember that Christ told us not to worry about what defence we should present when we are being taken before the courts by the people around us, and that He would give us the words to speak into that situation.

Stephen, before he was stoned to death, gave his defence against the Sanhedrin, but they did accept his defence and subsequently stoned him to death. He showed no fear in his situation and as he breathed his last breath, he told what he saw in Heaven. Do you have that strength in your faith and trust in the Lord as Stephen demonstrated as he died.

That is the backbone/courage that all of Christ's disciples should have, even me.

Sharpen sticks to defend ourselves is not always the way God works, when He requires us to be prepared to lay down our lives so that His Glory can be seen in how we respond in the circumstances that we may find ourselves in.

you are saying sorry!, but why are making such statements again. do you know the topic here.

i don't agree with the thoughts and words you use for me.

God have greatly blesse me and i am here. I have no complain , fear as you think but I have prayer request, you love arguing I love to be prayed for also you know I was praying before, I had desire to go to a prayer school, also I have a prayerful heart and you will never understand this. You need God's Spirit to understand things

Everyone taking their own cross as God is strengthening and guiding.

Do you know how many times satan will attack?, how many times one need prayers , if you donot know the answer do not come out to talk.
Jay Ross God has blessed you, you are not facing challenges like me. you should not compare yourself with me.

I have put prayers for myself for others, when I need you should be happy that everything is taken to prayer room, no but you are worried, you are not worried for other things but worried that I am putting a prayer request in the prayer section.

God is telling you many things but you are not paying attention. It's wrong that you donot hear God but hearing what your mind is telling you.
When we pray something happen in spiritual realm but when I put forward for prayers something is happening to you.

Here they will not take you to court men , they will do something right infront of your family and everyone, you cannot imagine or understand.

To take cross it needs God's strength, not own strength. what you say is not that easy and simple as you think or talk.

Frankly I donot have that strength like Stephen but I love God.

I appreciate you have strength like Stephen


I have suffered persecution so I wish from heart that no one face persecution, it's not that simple and easy , like you talk or say.

it is God's will others will face persecution and God will help and bless them.

Believers are not killing or thinking to kill, it's a wrong understanding by you all but i think they should sharpen sword and have one.

 

[Debp]

you are saying sorry!, but why are making such statements again. do you know the topic here.

i don't agree with the thoughts and words you use for me.

God have greatly blesse me and i am here. I have no complain , fear as you think but I have prayer request, you love arguing I love to be prayed for also you know I was praying before, I had desire to go to a prayer school, also I have a prayerful heart and you will never understand this. You need God's Spirit to understand things

Everyone taking their own cross as God is strengthening and guiding.

Do you know how many times satan will attack?, how many times one need prayers , if you donot know the answer do not come out to talk.
Jay Ross God has blessed you, you are not facing challenges like me. you should not compare yourself with me.

I have put prayers for myself for others, when I need you should be happy that everything is taken to prayer room, no but you are worried, you are not worried for other things but worried that I am putting a prayer request in the prayer section.

God is telling you many things but you are not paying attention. It's wrong that you donot hear God but hearing what your mind is telling you.
When we pray something happen in spiritual realm but when I put forward for prayers something is happening to you.

Here they will not take you to court men , they will do something right infront of your family and everyone, you cannot imagine or understand.

To take cross it needs God's strength, not own strength. what you say is not that easy and simple as you think or talk.

Frankly I donot have that strength like Stephen but I love God.

I appreciate you have strength like Stephen


I have suffered persecution so I wish from heart that no one face persecution, it's not that simple and easy , like you talk or say.

it is God's will others will face persecution and God will help and bless them.

Believers are not killing or thinking to kill, it's a wrong understanding by you all but i think they should sharpen sword and have one.

@My Dreams Have you considered turning the other cheek concerning @Jay Ross ? Forgive what you consider to be a personal offense?

@Ritajanice @Nancy Including you gals since you pray for MD.

 

[Jay Ross]

@My Dreams did not say anything about going to court , he was telling us about the executioners showing up ! No trial .

When the executioners show up, they will hold a kangaroo court to justify their actions and many in the crowd will give their silent assent to what follows. A little like what often happened in the wild west where the control of the crowd was used to justify the killing of often innocent people.

 

[Jay Ross]

you are saying sorry!, but why are making such statements again. do you know the topic here.

i don't agree with the thoughts and words you use for me.

God have greatly blesse me and i am here. I have no complain , fear as you think but I have prayer request, you love arguing I love to be prayed for also you know I was praying before, I had desire to go to a prayer school, also I have a prayerful heart and you will never understand this. You need God's Spirit to understand things

Everyone taking their own cross as God is strengthening and guiding.

Do you know how many times satan will attack?, how many times one need prayers , if you donot know the answer do not come out to talk.
Jay Ross God has blessed you, you are not facing challenges like me. you should not compare yourself with me.

I have put prayers for myself for others, when I need you should be happy that everything is taken to prayer room, no but you are worried, you are not worried for other things but worried that I am putting a prayer request in the prayer section.

God is telling you many things but you are not paying attention. It's wrong that you donot hear God but hearing what your mind is telling you.
When we pray something happen in spiritual realm but when I put forward for prayers something is happening to you.

Here they will not take you to court men , they will do something right infront of your family and everyone, you cannot imagine or understand.

To take cross it needs God's strength, not own strength. what you say is not that easy and simple as you think or talk.

Frankly I do not have that strength like Stephen but I love God.

I appreciate you have strength like Stephen


I have suffered persecution so I wish from heart that no one face persecution, it's not that simple and easy , like you talk or say.

it is God's will others will face persecution and God will help and bless them.

Believers are not killing or thinking to kill, it's a wrong understanding by you all but i think they should sharpen sword and have one.

This topic is not in the prayer forum.

As for your assumption on whether or not I am being persecuted, you have no idea what the persecution looking like in the "western" society. It is not a physical persecution as you have said that you have endured, but rather it is often a spiritual attack against what I might think and say to others.

In fact, I have, for the most part, stopped responding to your prayer requests because of your personal attacks against me because I have not followed the "prayer request" that you were wanting prayed. I am not into trying to tell God what to do. On the other hand, if you read how I respond prayerfully to others' requests for pray, my prayers are no different to what I would pray for you. You have openly rejected what I have prayed and have told me that I need to apologies/say sorry to you for what I have posted. Others, have taken on board what I have written and been blessed through what I have said. They, to my knowledge, have not taken any offence to what I have said, and I assume that they have gone before God to validate with God if what I had posted was for them.

Remember that turning away from God and sinning is very easy to do. All we have to do is to step over the line in the sand that define God's requirements for our lives. In no longer keeping God's requirements as to how we should be living our lives for God, we have stepped over the line in the sand and simply just turned away from God. This turning away from God is very hard to quantify for us and it is not as easily recognisable for us to see like adultery, stealing, killing, lusting, worshiping idols etc. The sins like adultery, stealing, killing, lusting worshiping idols etc., are easy for us to see and quantify and easy for us to ask for forgiveness for, but the primary sin of turning of turning away from God requires us to humble ourselves before God and repent of turning our backs towards God and this is the most difficult sin to ask forgiveness for.

We can turn away from God, i.e. the primary sin, and claim that we still love God, but the manifestations of the other secondary sins quickly appear in our lives to tell us that we have actually turned away from God and if we see these secondary sins, then we need to repent of our primary sin of turning away from God.

When we turn away from God, we kick God out of our life and install ourselves in His place in our lives and attempt to control God as our servant telling Him what He should be doing for us.

MD the above words are not just directed to you but to everyone who may read this post.

Shalom

 

[Ritajanice]

Brother, @My Dreams , if you don’t feel strong enough to not correspond with the member who seems to be upsetting you, my advice to you my friend is to put them on ignore, did you know that there is an ignore option?

I would start arguing back and forth with members at one time....., just speaking from my own experience, it’s unfruitful and unedifying, because, both parties aren’t listening, if that makes sense, ...remember also it the enemy who wants to steal your peace, ..it’s taken me years to stop arguing, have your say Brother, then either put them on ignore or walk away.

I’ve been praying for you and your family, what your poor Father went through, those non believers burning his house, is he ok now, that must have been an awful shock for you and your family?

Praying for all your family, are you an only Son?..

 

[Ritajanice]

@My Dreams Have you considered turning the other cheek concerning @Jay Ross ?

Perhaps you can advise JR to do the same..it takes 2 to tango, both are still batting the ball back and forth.

Only God can wake us up to our arguing....plus they clearly lock heads on what they believe and agree on...

Forgive what you consider to be a personal offense?

@Ritajanice @Nancy Including you gals since you pray for MD.

Hello @Debp ...I can 100% understand where MD is coming from...

It seems you understand where JR is coming from, can you see where MD is coming from?

It’s a difference of opinions and insight into each one of their posts, they clearly don’t get on...so, one needs to be the stronger person and walk away..

What is the point of communicating with each other, as we can clearly see that they don’t agree?..

I see someone “ telling “ another what they are and what they should do, I see superiority, ......that would get my back up as well....some must have the last word, anyone can see who that is imo.....which is all to do with “ their Pride and ego”....

I don’t want to get into an argument over this....and spoil this thread, neither do I want to “ FORCE” my belief/ opinion onto another....just voicing from my own perspective....no more valid than anyone else’s.

 

[Ritajanice]

In fact, I have, for the most part, stopped responding to your prayer requests because of your personal attacks again me because I have not followed the "prayer request" that you were wanting prayed

He also said....

As for your assumption on whether or not I am being persecuted, you have no idea what the persecution looking like in the "western" society. It is not a physical persecution as you have said that you have endured, but rather it is often a spiritual attack against what I might think and say to others


@Debp .....both are accusing each other...look at how they “ BOTH” speak to each other.

They “ Both” need to bury the hatchet and move on.

Plus you me etc, should look at this with an open mind and not take sides..i see taking sides all over this forum, it’s childish...and I’m not being a hypocrite as I’ve done the same thing.

You hurt my feelings I’ll hurt yours,...that’s the problem with some of us humans we tend to take sides....we all come from different backgrounds as well.

It’s not what we say.....it’s how we say it.we should be forever growing in the Spirit....the self should imo be well and truly in the distance........to be more like Jesus should be our top priorities in prayer......speak through me Lord, your way not my ways.

Jesus was no pushover, yet the way he spoke to people was perfect and respectful...he didn’t speak to anyone as though they were lower than him......because he spoke his Father’s words.....we are supposed to be representing Jesus.....we should not be representing ourselves....

 

[Debp]

@Debp .....both are accusing each other...look at how they “ BOTH” speak to each other.

That is why after @Jay Ross 's post to MD that I suggested @My Dreams "turn the other cheek." But instead MD responded to him as usual.

There have been a few times that My Dreams told me that Satan had entered my heart. That is a terrible thing to say to another born again Christian. But I never responded to that false accusation....I turned the other cheek as the Lord taught us to do.

 

[Ritajanice]

That is why after @Jay Ross 's first post to MD that I suggested @My Dreams "turn the other cheek." But instead MD responded to him as usual.

There have been a few times that My Dreams told me that Satan had entered my heart. That is a terrible thing to say to another born again Christian. But I never responded to that false accusation....I turned the other cheek as the Lord taught us to do.

@Wrangler

Ok Sis...I’m not getting into this.

God has been showing me that the “ self” will rise up, because of pride and ego.

You obviously stayed in the Spirit, when you were addressed with what was spoken to you...

Just remember that we are all at different places of growth.......enjoy the rest of your day...I hope to get out into the garden today....

@My Dreams ..how is your Father?...praying for you all as a family..

 

[Ritajanice]

...I turned the other cheek as the Lord taught us to do.

Good mature advice here, I’m just learning to do that Sis, it’s been a very long time coming, my pride and ego didn’t want to die.....pain in the neck it is...would appreciate your prayers that I stay in the Spirit.x

 

[Debp]

@My Dreams This is meant to be helpful advice....I hope you will take it as such. (This is how we all grow as Christians, willing to listen.) But have you considered "turning the other cheek" as Jesus taught us to do? Just ignore things, forgive. 1 Corinthians 13 says "love takes no offense."

If we want to be spiritually healthy, we must learn to apply God's Word to our lives. That is the only way to grow spiritually.

@Nancy @Ritajanice Including you gals since you often pray for MD.

The above is the first time I suggested to MD to turn the other cheek. But he didn't follow that advice so the argument continued.

 

[Jay Ross]

Plus you me etc, should look at this with an open mind and not take sides..i see taking sides all over this forum, it’s childish...and I’m not being a hypocrite as I’ve done the same thing.

Oh Ritajanice, you have enabled My Dreams with your support of him and your defence of him.

MD's response in this thread that he created, which was not in the prayer forum, was like he treated me in the Prayer forum, and so his usual mantra in replying to me was posted in this thread as well like, "I do not like what you said" and "you should say sorry to me."

Jesus in addressing the religious people of His day, did not speak with politically correct language, as is expected in todays' society. He offended the religious people, and they knew that He was calling them out. Their reaction was to try and control Jesus and then the disciples after Jesus' ascension to heaven. To control Jesus, they initially set out to persecute Him and set boundaries for Him by questioning His authority to say and act in the way that He did but when Jesus would not fit in their pigeon hole for Him, they then looked for a way to have him crucified, which resulted in His dying on the cross at the hands of the Roman soldiers.

Yes, you are right to question how Jesus would respond? Would He agree with one and discipline the other. What would Jesus' disciple look like today. Is it possible for us to discern how Jesus would act? How would He react to the fanatical Hindus so that His Glory can be seen. in His actions? How should Jesus' disciples react so that God's glory can be seen in their response to the persecution by the fanatical Hindus.

I asked a devote Hindu whether or not he was prepared to die for what he believed in His Hindu faith/religion. He stated that he did not like what the fanatical Hindus were doing but if he left the Hindu religion, he questioned what he would have if he did as he did not see that Christianity was a viable option for him.

Over the past 30 or so years, I have visited Nepal, India and Sri Lanker for various lengths of time and have a fundamental understanding of what it is like for the inhabitants of those countries.

Sadly, the cultures in those countries get in the way of their Christian faith. The face-saving pride gets in the way of being a humble person in relationship with Christ/God.

 

[My Dreams]

Brother, @My Dreams , if you don’t feel strong enough to not correspond with the member who seems to be upsetting you, my advice to you my friend is to put them on ignore, did you know that there is an ignore option?

I would start arguing back and forth with members at one time....., just speaking from my own experience, it’s unfruitful and unedifying, because, both parties aren’t listening, if that makes sense, ...remember also it the enemy who wants to steal your peace, ..it’s taken me years to stop arguing, have your say Brother, then either put them on ignore or walk away.

I’ve been praying for you and your family, what your poor Father went through, those non believers burning his house, is he ok now, that must have been an awful shock for you and your family?

Praying for all your family, are you an only Son?..

Thanks for sharing, I am not good in sharing so I always prefer to be in prayer section.
I always expect meaningful, lovely talk or discussions I should say.

yes, thank you for praying, it's a blessing. yes leaving own house fellowship and staying in another rented place is sad thi ng to happen.
He is weak and have health issues due to his age .
Yes I am his only son i had an elder bro. What died at 19yrs , after struggling for 4-5 years. due to malaria or witchcraft , he became mad , he was undergoing treatment at a mental hospital but one day they called and said he was dead. They killed and took away his vital organs