Should Deceptive Political Ads Be Censored (and if so, By WHOM?)

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TLHKAJ

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You don't believe me?

How many Epstein Island rapists were charged?
Only the scapegoats and expendables on the lower levels are or will be "exposed." Those who are at the top are protected. This is the case not only during this current administration, but the previous administrations, including Trump.
 

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Only the scapegoats and expendables on the lower levels are or will be "exposed." Those who are at the top are protected. This is the case not only during this current administration, but the previous administrations, including Trump.

There were a LOT of Cartel snakes in Trump's cabinet, unbeknownst to him. Trump is most decidedly NOT a member of the Cartel. William Barr certainly was and is. How many Epstein Island rapists did he or the current AG arrest and prosecute?

Answer: ZERO. The Cartel doesn't prosecute its own.
 

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There were a LOT of Cartel snakes in Trump's cabinet, unbeknownst to him. Trump is most decidedly NOT a member of the Cartel. William Barr certainly was and is. How many Epstein Island rapists did he or the current AG arrest and prosecute?

Answer: ZERO. The Cartel doesn't prosecute its own.
How many Epstein Island rapists could have been prosecuted federally? Answer: ZERO. Rape is a state law crime. Epstein himself was convicted in Florida state court.
 

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Epstein killed himself…

@RedFan.

Www.rainn.org

There are many organizations, and also people out there actively helping to seek to get pedophiles caught and arrest with being charged for their crimes.

We live in a wonderful country with a mix of baggage’s but you have those out there who are actively looking and giving up their time and day to get these people off the street.

Here is a latest catch on one;

 

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How many Epstein Island rapists could have been prosecuted federally? Answer: ZERO. Rape is a state law crime. Epstein himself was convicted in Florida state court.
Two things are clear.

1) You don't know what you're talking about.
2) You're a leftist that loves the government.
 

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Two things are clear.

1) You don't know what you're talking about.
2) You're a leftist that loves the government.
1) You think these rapists could have been prosecuted federally? Nonsense! Where did you get your law degree?
2) I am a life long Republican who thinks Harris is a Bozo. I just have a preference for truth. You ought to try it some time.
 

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1) You think these rapists could have been prosecuted federally? Nonsense! Where did you get your law degree?
2) I am a life long Republican who thinks Harris is a Bozo. I just have a preference for truth. You ought to try it some time.

You're a big government apologist. You can have the last word.
 

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You're a big government apologist. You can have the last word.
No, you don't get off that easy. Tell us all what federal statute these rapists violated, or else admit you're the one who doesn't know what you're taking about.
 

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If he did, he would have already been successfully prosecuted by the corrupt DOJ and the Deep State's corrupt judges.
Not true. lol
The entire government is corrupt. He is higher up the cult ladder which is why he hasn't been prosecuted for his role in human trafficking, and other dirty dealings. I personally know people who were (unsuccessfully) bribed, then threatened and had their homes shot up by his mafia for not taking his bribes. I personally know people who were handled by him as children and trafficked under MK Ultra. I personally know the people who recently totally renovated the inside of his plane because the entire plane smelled of urine and feces ...which is what happens when you transport people/children in cages. This person likened Trump's plane to the US Marshall's plane in smell (same reason ...people in cages).
 

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The rulers of this age, those cartel people you mention, are scared of Trump upending their system of control

They are globalist in mindset, not American, which is why they also hate Make America Great Agan, one of them said America was never that great.

Harari says Trump is end of their new world order
This is serious stuff going on out there, that affects everyone, the plans of these globalist elitists.



Which to my thinking is reason enough to vote for Trump in November
 

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Meanwhile, to the OP, what if anything can or should be done about deceptive political ads?
 

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No. let the market of public opinion decide what they want to believe.
There isn't a "market" of public opinion trading in deception. How does the consumer of the information tell whether truth or falsity is presented?
 

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There isn't a "market" of public opinion trading in deception. How does the consumer of the information tell whether truth or falsity is presented?
What deception, not everyone agrees on what is true and what is lie.
What your suggesting is a ministry of truth run by the government in power.
1984!

For example I do not believe in man made global warming caused by burning hydrocarbon fuels.
I do not believe fossil fuels come from the bodies of dead dinosaurs.

Whose truth are you going to persecute?
 
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Ministry of Truth​

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"The Ministry of Truth" redirects here. For other uses, see The Ministry of Truth (disambiguation).
Senate House, London, where Orwell's wife worked at the Ministry of Information, was his model for the Ministry of Truth.
The Ministry of Truth (Newspeak: Minitrue) is the ministry of propaganda. As with the other ministries in the novel, the name Ministry of Truth is a deliberate misnomer because in reality, it serves the opposite: It is responsible for any necessary falsification of historical events. However, like the other ministries, the name is also apt because it decides what "truth" is in Oceania.

As well as administering "truth", the ministry spreads a new language amongst the populace called Newspeak, in which, for example, "truth" is understood to mean statements like 2 + 2 = 5 when the situation warrants. In keeping with the concept of doublethink, the ministry is thus aptly named in that it creates/manufactures "truth" in the Newspeak sense of the word. The book describes the doctoring of historical records to show a government-approved version of events.

Artist's depiction of the Ministry of Truth building

Description​

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Winston Smith, the main character of the novel, works at the Ministry of Truth.[5] It is an enormous pyramidal structure of glittering white concrete rising 300 m (980 ft) into the air, containing over 3000 rooms above ground. On the outside wall are the three slogans of the Party: "WAR IS PEACE", "FREEDOM IS SLAVERY", and "IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH". There is also a large part underground, probably containing huge incinerators where documents are destroyed after they are put down memory holes. For his description, Orwell was inspired by the Senate House at the University of London.[6]

Role in information​

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The Ministry of Truth is involved with news media, entertainment, the fine arts and educational books. Its purpose is to rewrite history to change the facts to fit Party doctrine for propaganda effect. For example, if Big Brother makes a prediction that turns out to be wrong, the employees of the Ministry of Truth correct the record to make it accurate. This is the "how" of the Ministry of Truth's existence. Within the novel, Orwell elaborates that the deeper reason for its existence, the "why", is to maintain the illusion that the Party is absolutely infallible, and should be trusted without question. It cannot ever seem to change its mind (if, for instance, they perform one of their constant changes regarding enemies during war) or make a mistake (firing an official or making a grossly misjudged supply prediction), for that would imply weakness, and to maintain power the Party must seem eternally right and strong.

Departments​

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The following are the sections or departments of the ministry mentioned in the text:

 
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What deception, not everyone agrees on what is true and what is lie.
What your suggesting is a ministry of truth run by the government in power.
1984!
A government run ministry of truth is the last thing I would favor!

But courts are different. There is objective, provable truth, and there is objective, provable falsity determined by the courts every day in fraud, misrepresentation and Lanham Act cases. We might allow one campaign to sue another for damages, or for an injunction, in the political sphere just as courts are used to doing in the commercial sphere. Just a thought . . .