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Say it with me my friends . THE BBB is worse than even those they accuse . FOR THEY DO and are building
the same kind of system and yet holler , WE DO IT FOR YOU ALL . Its hyprocrisy .
We are being lied to non stop now by our own BBB folks .
The world they desire and the system they are creating and building , aint for us , ITS FOR THEM .
BUT man do they know how to decieve the people and make it SEEM as though they love us and want only what is best for us all .
YEAH right . ITS all about the love of money and power and control . But folks cannot see it for what it is .
 

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Yipes...I guess you missed the Declaration...that ALL men are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights...... UNDER which the Constitution was established to PROTECT those unalienable Rights.

Obviously if you don’t KNOW what unalienable Rights YOU HAVE, there should be no expectation you would be concerned about an Others unalienable Rights. :rolleyes:
Taken be encouraged and please hear what i type next .
Notice it says the right to life . SO how on earth can abortion be protecting that right , Every abortion kills . I never seen
an abortion give a baby LIFE .
We live in a very dark world my friend . One in which satan knows how to lord over and rule over .
Satan allures how , through the cares and pleasures in life , through the lusts of the flesh .
SO he has many folks decieved . His men and women holler my body my choice
but forget about the lil body growing within that womb . I say make it illegal .
What right does anyone have to take life . As christains we should be dead set against any law
that allows abortion on demand . AND i will add this too
we ought to never support any same sex marriage law either .
OR anything that is contrary to the teachings of Christ , of the apostels , of sound bibilcal doctrine .
Love one another . LOVE CHRIST GOD above all , love one another .
I dont see the love for babies by allowing the death of babies . That dont seem like LOVE to me .
Nor does honoring or celebrating sin . Its time to stand on the solid words , the enduring words of GOD , of CHRIST and of the apostels .
AND let none look back . ITS Time for the church to stop living by emotions and feelings and to start living
by the SPIRIT , by every word of GOD . HIS PATTERN , HIS WORDS , HIS TEACHINGS . ITS THE ONLY THING that works and endures .
 

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Personally, i'm with the biblical view that abortion is completely unacceptable under any circumstances. Human reasoning tends to look for loopholes as to why their situation qualifies as an "emergency".
God and the U.S. Constitution allows people to make their own choices, but none of that means homosexuality is a legally protected right. If you're going to make this argument, then someone can just as well argue that pedophilia and necrophilia are protected rights. God and the U.S. Constitution allows for someone to make their own life choices, but both entities also outline in concrete terms what is or isn't lawful.

You may not be aware of this, but homosexuality used to be criminalized in most states before the country started its drift towards embracing depravity and rejecting biblical morality. It wasn't until after that shift was underway that liberals used the Constitution as a pretext for arguing that morally despicable things like homosexuality and abortion were legally protected rights.

The US Constitution is VERY limited. What was not authorized for the Federal Government to do, is reserved to the authority of the sovereign States.
The laws of the States is a reflection of that States citizenry, since the Governed (the people) elected and seat the people who represent their Governance.
The Fed Reps “servants” are “supposed” to Serve ALL the people, according to the “Limits” of the US Constitution....they don’t. They typically sit in DC as dictators.
How many people masked their face, had the jab, because DC reps SAID SO?
The US Congress is charged with LAW MAKING authority. Did the US Congress create a MASK Law? No. A Requirement to be jabbed? No. Do they have authority over healthcare of the people at large? No. Do they have authority over Marriages? No. Do they have authority over adults who choose to live together? No. They are way out of control.

If you are personally against homosexuality, abortions, whatever, doesn’t really matter what the law says, don’t participate in it. If you don’t like what the public schools teach, don’t enroll your children in the public education system. Choices.
 

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Taken be encouraged and please hear what i type next .
Notice it says the right to life . SO how on earth can abortion be protecting that right , Every abortion kills . I never seen
an abortion give a baby LIFE .
We live in a very dark world my friend . One in which satan knows how to lord over and rule over .
Satan allures how , through the cares and pleasures in life , through the lusts of the flesh .
SO he has many folks decieved . His men and women holler my body my choice
but forget about the lil body growing within that womb . I say make it illegal .
What right does anyone have to take life . As christains we should be dead set against any law
that allows abortion on demand . AND i will add this too
we ought to never support any same sex marriage law either .
OR anything that is contrary to the teachings of Christ , of the apostels , of sound bibilcal doctrine .
Love one another . LOVE CHRIST GOD above all , love one another .
I dont see the love for babies by allowing the death of babies . That dont seem like LOVE to me .
Nor does honoring or celebrating sin . Its time to stand on the solid words , the enduring words of GOD , of CHRIST and of the apostels .
AND let none look back . ITS Time for the church to stop living by emotions and feelings and to start living
by the SPIRIT , by every word of GOD . HIS PATTERN , HIS WORDS , HIS TEACHINGS . ITS THE ONLY THING that works and endures .

Abortion is always a touchy subject. So is homosexuality and even tattoos. Sure I can have opinions, yet what the law says about those things is irrelevant to me, because I have nothing to do with those things that it might effect my likes or dislikes of those things.
 

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Russian laws restricting homosexual parades and literature in society and schools?

Russian constitution allowing for marriage only by male and female?

Russian laws restricting abortion to first 12 weeks, surpassing Americas recent 16 weeks in the Texas Heart Beat Bill?

We are not to be opposing supporting nations and their laws. We are supposed to be having the heart of Jesus and being on teh mission of the kingdom. The world is the world and we are not of the world.
 

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We are not to be opposing supporting nations and their laws. We are supposed to be having the heart of Jesus and being on teh mission of the kingdom. The world is the world and we are not of the world.
Yes the believer is called to expose/reprove evil

Ephesians 5:11KJV
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
 
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Yes the believer is called to expose/reprove evil

Ephesians 5:11KJV
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

But pointing out evil to the world is like pointing out the rushing in water to the crew of a sinking ship.

Even if we succeeded in cleaning up the world and getting the world to externally obey the moral codes entrusted to us- all we would do is make whited sepulchers. Unsaved people who live outwardly moral lives. We will have failed them bigly!
 

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But pointing out evil to the world is like pointing out the rushing in water to the crew of a sinking ship.

Even if we succeeded in cleaning up the world and getting the world to externally obey the moral codes entrusted to us- all we would do is make whited sepulchers. Unsaved people who live outwardly moral lives. We will have failed them bigly!
Sounds eloquent, but not reality

Religious leaders across America are voicing their opinion on the war in Ukraine, as they should

Ukraine is violating international laws, taking civilian hostages as human shields, posting prisoners of war in social media and on the news, war crimes violating the Geneva convention
 
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Sounds eloquent, but not reality

Religious leaders across America are voicing their opinion on the war in Ukraine, as they should

Ukraine is violating international laws, taking civilian hostages as human shields, posting prisoners of war in social media and on the news, war crimes violating the Geneva convention

You seem to forget that our kingdom is not of this world.

and what evidence do you have that Ukraine is taking hostages and using them as shields. Especially when they have allowed over 2 million to leave and encourage more to do so. What is your proof.

Yes posting videos of prisoners is wrong. but what wrong would you rather live with:

1. Videoing POW's who invaded your country as Ukraine does

or

2: Russia violently invading the Ukraine, bombing hospitals and neighborhoods and shooting civilians in supposed humanitrarian zones for people to escape? That is what your friend Putin is doing.
 

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You seem to forget that our kingdom is not of this world.

and what evidence do you have that Ukraine is taking hostages and using them as shields. Especially when they have allowed over 2 million to leave and encourage more to do so. What is your proof.

Yes posting videos of prisoners is wrong. but what wrong would you rather live with:

1. Videoing POW's who invaded your country as Ukraine does

or

2: Russia violently invading the Ukraine, bombing hospitals and neighborhoods and shooting civilians in supposed humanitrarian zones for people to escape? That is what your friend Putin is doing.
Violent invading?

More like a liberation force for the country in my opinion, as untold "thousands" of Ukranian citizens in the "Donbass" region have been killed over the past 8 years, in violation of the international Minsk agreements

Bombing hospitals, shooting civilians?

Did you witness these events, you dont have a clue on who's bombs or bullets are causing destruction
 
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Violent invading?

More like a liberation force for the country in my opinion, as untold "thousands" of Ukranian citizens in the "Donbass" region have been killed over the past 8 years, in violation of the international Minsk agreements

Bombing hospitals, shooting civilians?

Did you witness these events, you dont have a clue on who's bombs or bullets are causing destruction

It is your boyfriend Putin who has caused the most trouble in the Donbas!

War in Donbas - Wikipedia

If Putin hadn't armed and encouraged these Ukranians to secede from Ukraine, and also bring in their own troops, there never would have been the level of violence that took place. Just like Putin stole the Crimea, He is also stealing the donbas and has gone on international TV to declare the Ukraine is part of Russia!

YOU clearly are a good Marxist and proper puppet for the Soviet propaganda machine.

Maybe you should watch any of over a hundred news sources showing soviet jets, soviet tanks, soviet missiles destroying civilain areas of the Ukraine.

Teh donbas is sovereing territory of the Ukraine and not Russia.
 

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It is your boyfriend Putin who has caused the most trouble in the Donbas!

War in Donbas - Wikipedia

If Putin hadn't armed and encouraged these Ukranians to secede from Ukraine, and also bring in their own troops, there never would have been the level of violence that took place. Just like Putin stole the Crimea, He is also stealing the donbas and has gone on international TV to declare the Ukraine is part of Russia!

YOU clearly are a good Marxist and proper puppet for the Soviet propaganda machine.

Maybe you should watch any of over a hundred news sources showing soviet jets, soviet tanks, soviet missiles destroying civilain areas of the Ukraine.

Teh donbas is sovereing territory of the Ukraine and not Russia.
Once again, you have no knowledge of who's bombs or bullets are actually killing civilians

It's my opinion that Ukraine is holding civilians hostage for human shields, your fake news sources aren't reporting the truth but propaganda

The Daily Star
Kept as ‘human shields’ in Ukraine camps, say stranded Bangladeshis

March 05, 2022

Thanks to the ongoing conflict, many inhabitants of Ukraine has been forced to relocate to neighbouring countries. However, these 120 people cannot even get out of the camp -- going to a safer location seems like a far cry. They complain that they are being held there merely to be used as "human shields", as and when that particular need arises.

The Daily Star had a chat with Riyad Malik, who has been stranded in the camp along with four fellow Bangladeshis. He mentioned, although the detention centre had all kinds of facilities before, since the conflict intensified, those facilities started becoming scarce. They are currently enduring lack of adequate food, water, electricity and all other necessities.

"We have been tortured, and they took away our phones. I somehow managed to hide this phone, which came as a blessing as I'm being able to talk to you. They took away our phones in order to stop us from contacting the media. They imprisoned us and kept us here as hostages. We are being used as human shields. They don't even give us enough food to eat," lamented Malik.
 
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Once again, you have no knowledge of who's bombs or bullets are actually killing civilians

It's my opinion that Ukraine is holding civilians hostage for human shields, your fake news sources aren't reporting the truth but propaganda

The Daily Star
Kept as ‘human shields’ in Ukraine camps, say stranded Bangladeshis

March 05, 2022

Thanks to the ongoing conflict, many inhabitants of Ukraine has been forced to relocate to neighbouring countries. However, these 120 people cannot even get out of the camp -- going to a safer location seems like a far cry. They complain that they are being held there merely to be used as "human shields", as and when that particular need arises.

The Daily Star had a chat with Riyad Malik, who has been stranded in the camp along with four fellow Bangladeshis. He mentioned, although the detention centre had all kinds of facilities before, since the conflict intensified, those facilities started becoming scarce. They are currently enduring lack of adequate food, water, electricity and all other necessities.

"We have been tortured, and they took away our phones. I somehow managed to hide this phone, which came as a blessing as I'm being able to talk to you. They took away our phones in order to stop us from contacting the media. They imprisoned us and kept us here as hostages. We are being used as human shields. They don't even give us enough food to eat," lamented Malik.

Well you can hold any opinion you wish- no matter how far from reality it is!

Daily Star?????? REally????????? YOu have to sink to a rag newspaper to try to find facts? Seems that these shields have done not good because Russia has bombed every city so far indiscriminately without regard to civilian or military targets. It is now encircling Kiev to level it to the ground. Russia doesn't care about human shields- they will kill them just as fast as the Ukranian civilians.

Now what city are these supposed human shields being held?

Why are you such a tool for Russia?
 

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Well you can hold any opinion you wish- no matter how far from reality it is!

Daily Star?????? REally????????? YOu have to sink to a rag newspaper to try to find facts? Seems that these shields have done not good because Russia has bombed every city so far indiscriminately without regard to civilian or military targets. It is now encircling Kiev to level it to the ground. Russia doesn't care about human shields- they will kill them just as fast as the Ukranian civilians.

Now what city are these supposed human shields being held?

Why are you such a tool for Russia?
Ukraine Weapons Biolabs, Funded By The Biden Admin (Fox) Tucker Carlson

In the attached 10 Min Clip (Fox) Tucker Carlson exposes the Ukranian Biolab, and the Biden Admins funding and ties in secrecy?

Biden Secretary Of State Under Secretary (Victoria Neuland) was recently asked by Florida Senator (Marco Rubio) Mar 8, 2022 in congressional testimony, if Ukraine had biolabs and the answer was "Yes", and she stated she feared they could fall into Russian hands

The day after Russia invaded Ukraine, Robert Pope, the man who heads the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program at DOD, sat for an interview with the website Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists. Pope was the man in charge of securing or eliminating Soviet-era bioweapons, so he knows a lot about the subject, maybe more than anyone else, but it turns out that not all of these Soviet weapons are being destroyed or even secured

In other words, because as Pope put it, "scientists are scientists," they don't want to destroy all the bioweapons. Instead, they're using them to conduct new bioweapons research. That's what he said and not just on strains left over from the Soviet Union. The second lie. In fact, the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv has acknowledged joint American and Ukrainian research on other pathogens such as hemorrhagic fever virus.
 
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Ukraine Weapons Biolabs, Funded By The Biden Admin (Fox) Tucker Carlson

In the attached 10 Min Clip (Fox) Tucker Carlson exposes the Ukranian Biolab, and the Biden Admins funding and ties in secrecy?

Biden Secretary Of State Under Secretary (Victoria Neuland) was recently asked by Florida Senator (Marco Rubio) Mar 8, 2022 in congressional testimony, if Ukraine had biolabs and the answer was "Yes", and she stated she feared they could fall into Russian hands

The day after Russia invaded Ukraine, Robert Pope, the man who heads the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program at DOD, sat for an interview with the website Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists. Pope was the man in charge of securing or eliminating Soviet-era bioweapons, so he knows a lot about the subject, maybe more than anyone else, but it turns out that not all of these Soviet weapons are being destroyed or even secured

In other words, because as Pope put it, "scientists are scientists," they don't want to destroy all the bioweapons. Instead, they're using them to conduct new bioweapons research. That's what he said and not just on strains left over from the Soviet Union. The second lie. In fact, the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv has acknowledged joint American and Ukrainian research on other pathogens such as hemorrhagic fever virus.

Yes there are biolabs in Ukraine. No they are not weapons labs but research labs just like USAMRIID and other level four biolabs in America. Once again y0ou are promoting your friend Putins propaganda through his mouthpiece Lavrov. Just remember not every biolab is a weapons lab. This is not under militaRY CONTROL! So try again with another Russian lie!
 

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Ukraine Weapons Biolabs, Funded By The Biden Admin (Fox) Tucker Carlson

In the attached 10 Min Clip (Fox) Tucker Carlson exposes the Ukranian Biolab, and the Biden Admins funding and ties in secrecy?

Biden Secretary Of State Under Secretary (Victoria Neuland) was recently asked by Florida Senator (Marco Rubio) Mar 8, 2022 in congressional testimony, if Ukraine had biolabs and the answer was "Yes", and she stated she feared they could fall into Russian hands

The day after Russia invaded Ukraine, Robert Pope, the man who heads the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program at DOD, sat for an interview with the website Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists. Pope was the man in charge of securing or eliminating Soviet-era bioweapons, so he knows a lot about the subject, maybe more than anyone else, but it turns out that not all of these Soviet weapons are being destroyed or even secured

In other words, because as Pope put it, "scientists are scientists," they don't want to destroy all the bioweapons. Instead, they're using them to conduct new bioweapons research. That's what he said and not just on strains left over from the Soviet Union. The second lie. In fact, the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv has acknowledged joint American and Ukrainian research on other pathogens such as hemorrhagic fever virus.

I suppose those artillery bombardments of Ukranian cities and strafing of the humanitarian corridors the Ukrainians wanted are really the Ukrainians doing it to themselves? Just like those scenes of the Ukrainians destroying tank columns are the Ukrainians destroying themselves?

this must be your favorite national anthem.

National Anthem of the Soviet Union - OFFICIAL - Bing video

what has turned your heart to believe such evil leaders?
 

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Yes there are biolabs in Ukraine. No they are not weapons labs but research labs just like USAMRIID and other level four biolabs in America. Once again y0ou are promoting your friend Putins propaganda through his mouthpiece Lavrov. Just remember not every biolab is a weapons lab. This is not under militaRY CONTROL! So try again with another Russian lie!
February 25, 2022 the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists published an article quoting Robert Pope of the DTRA's Cooperative Threat Reduction Program

Direct Quotes, Robert Pope:

“I would say from every facility that we have worked with them in, we have confidence that as long as the electrical power is turned on and the people we have trained are present at the facility, the biosafety officers, that these pathogens are safe and secure to international standards,” Pope said. “Should these facilities be damaged by conflict, that could change.”

The pathogens with which the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program labs work are generally kept frozen, so they can’t replicate and become infectious. The risk the pathogens pose would increase if a building lost power and suffered damage. “If you lose the electrical power, the pathogens in the freezers warm up,” he said. “If the ventilation system is damaged, or the building itself is damaged, and these now ambient-temperature pathogens are able to escape the facility, then they can be potentially infectious in the region around the facility.”
 

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I suppose those artillery bombardments of Ukranian cities and strafing of the humanitarian corridors the Ukrainians wanted are really the Ukrainians doing it to themselves? Just like those scenes of the Ukrainians destroying tank columns are the Ukrainians destroying themselves?

this must be your favorite national anthem.

National Anthem of the Soviet Union - OFFICIAL - Bing video

what has turned your heart to believe such evil leaders?
Evil leaders would be found in Joe Biden who left Americans and $80 Billion in military equipment in Afghanistan, also not protecting Americas southern borders, as criminals and drugs are entering in untold numbers
 
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Evil leaders would be found in Joe Biden who left Americans and $80 Billion in military equipment in Afghanistan, also not protecting Americas southern borders, as criminals and drugs are entering in untold numbers
Why don't we just agree that (1) Putin, (2) Biden and (3) Trudeau are all evil leaders, who wish to enslave and tyrannize the people of their countries (with Putin wanting to enslave more than the ones in his own country). If all three were to be simultaneously arrested and locked up, quite a few issues would disappear.
 

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Why don't we just agree that (1) Putin, (2) Biden and (3) Trudeau are all evil leaders, who wish to enslave and tyrannize the people of their countries (with Putin wanting to enslave more than the ones in his own country). If all three were to be simultaneously arrested and locked up, quite a few issues would disappear.
I believe Putin is fighting for his country and its security, as Zelenskyy desires to have NATO missile bases on Russias border, 500 miles away from Moscow

America wouldn't allow Russian or Chinese based on its borders, and Putin has clearly tried to negotiate the same with deaf ears in the west, and we are witnessing Putins resolve, it's that simple, and I'm no Putin sympathizer

If the western world wants World War III, there pushing the buttons, and Putin isn't going to give on this one, he's in a corner fighting
 
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