Should Christianity be less political?

[Josho]

I am torn between two ways of thinking.

1. Christianity should be less political. We belong to the eternal Kingdom and the world and its systems are passing away. We need to stop over emphasizing America, the President, and political parties and put the emphasis on Christ.

2. We should be even more political. God always had a hand in politics in the Bible. We should have influence over politics so that Godly values can help the country go in a better direction. We should be voting and voting for the right people.

Help would be appreciated. Can you give your thoughts? Lets keep love, respect, and civility in this discussion. Think about unsaved people and what we reflect to them in our discourse.

I lean more to no.1 on this. With no.2 who is the right person?

That's the problem of today, you can just about find a fault in about every political party.

I am just gonna vote Liberal this time round for the Aussie election even though I don't totally agree with them, as an attempt to keep out Labor's Albanese from becoming PM, even though the Libs aren't a pro-life party and are mainly for the rich folk, but the alternative of a Fed Labor government, especially this time round is much worse.

 

[amadeus]

4 No one serving as a soldier gets entangled in civilian affairs, but rather tries to please his commanding officer.

Aye... and we, that is, we believers in God, have the ideal commanding officer, who never gives a bad or evil order and is always fair in His judgements.

I cannot say that was the way of the officers over me when I was on active military duty. But... nonetheless, ours was not to question the reason why, but rather to do or die! At what point should a soldier question the orders of his superior officer?
Does this verse give us a clue?

"Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ." I Cor 11:1

Or this one?

"They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's" Matt 22:21

 

[Cassandra]

I'll go with one. 2 requires forcing someone to believe as you do.

 

[Bob Estey]

Anyone who is trying to preserve Satan's world is doing his work. This is Satan's world, and it will continue being his world until the day Jesus returns and dethrones him. Civilization as we know it is going to collapse under the weight of its own sins, and the people who want to preserve it is going to be crushed under it. God tells anyone who is truly willing to believe Him to escape the building while there is still time(Rev. 18:4) because no amount of voting is going to prevent that from happening.

While we are waiting for Jesus to return, I'd rather see good people running governments than bad people.

 

[Desire Of All Nations]

While we are waiting for Jesus to return, I'd rather see good people running governments than bad people.

There is no such thing as a "good" person. In response to the young man in Matt. 19 calling Jesus "good Teacher", Jesus said "why do you call Me 'good'? No one is good but God". In Rom. 3:12, Paul quoted Psa. 14:1 where it says no one does good. John stated in 1 Jhn 5:19 that the entire world is under the control of Satan.

The political system started with Adam and Eve telling God thousands of years ago to stay out of their affairs. And ever since then, human beings have come up with various systems of government that essentially amounts to them telling God the same thing.

Putting faith in "good" people to run governments is a fool's errand(Jer. 17:5) because the Bible prophecies that things are only going to get exponentially worse from here until Jesus returns. That's why Christians in the last days are told to place their hope in Jesus' return. That is mankind's only real hope.

 

[Bob Estey]

There is no such thing as a "good" person. In response to the young man in Matt. 19 calling Jesus "good Teacher", Jesus said "why do you call Me 'good'? No one is good but God". In Rom. 3:12, Paul quoted Psa. 14:1 where it says no one does good. John stated in 1 Jhn 5:19 that the entire world is under the control of Satan.

The political system started with Adam and Eve telling God thousands of years ago to stay out of their affairs. And ever since then, human beings have come up with various systems of government that essentially amounts to them telling God the same thing.

Putting faith in "good" people to run governments is a fool's errand(Jer. 17:5) because the Bible prophecies that things are only going to get exponentially worse from here until Jesus returns. That's why Christians in the last days are told to place their hope in Jesus' return. That is mankind's only real hope.

I'd rather have our country run by Donald Trump than an Adolf Hitler. Hitler might have all our heads cut off. With Donald it was peace and prosperity.

 

[Desire Of All Nations]

I'd rather have our country run by Donald Trump than an Adolf Hitler. Hitler might have all our heads cut off. With Donald it was peace and prosperity.

A whole summer of rioting and vandalizing monuments went unchecked and virtually unchallenged under his watch, and you say there was peace? That's funny, because the communities that experienced those riots didn't feel any semblance of peace. It's easy to say "things were peaceful under Trump was" when the chaos and rampant lawlessness didn't spread to where you live.

The so called "prosperity" under Trump was all built on sand because it was based on Trump accumulating debt. The national debt under Trump rose almost $10 trillion from where it was under Obama. On CNN, August 11, 2016, Trump even bragged about how much he loved debt and that he was the king of debt.

The fact of the matter is that Trump has every bit to do with the dollar being reduced in value as Biden does, but Reps don't like inconvenient facts any more than Dems do. Reps are being led around the nose by a certified fool who thinks accumulating debt is not only good, but sound business strategy, and the Bible teaches in Psa. 37:21 that wicked people accumulate debts.

When someone says the Trump years were prosperous because they had more money in their pocket, it is coming from a position of concern for themselves. This selfishness is a lot more apparent in Reps because they never want people to look at the amount of debt Trump accumulated to make that happen or the part he played in destroying the dollar's value. They want people to believe that Democrats are the only ones driving the country into the toilet, which again proves what the Bible says about this world's politics being inherently rotten to the core, no matter who is in charge.

 

[Bob Estey]

A whole summer of rioting and vandalizing monuments went unchecked and virtually unchallenged under his watch, and you say there was peace? That's funny, because the communities that experienced those riots didn't feel any semblance of peace. It's easy to say "things were peaceful under Trump was" when the chaos and rampant lawlessness didn't spread to where you live.

The so called "prosperity" under Trump was all built on sand because it was based on Trump accumulating debt. The national debt under Trump rose almost $10 trillion from where it was under Obama. On CNN, August 11, 2016, Trump even bragged about how much he loved debt and that he was the king of debt.

The fact of the matter is that Trump has every bit to do with the dollar being reduced in value as Biden does, but Reps don't like inconvenient facts any more than Dems do. Reps are being led around the nose by a certified fool who thinks accumulating debt is not only good, but sound business strategy, and the Bible teaches in Psa. 37:21 that wicked people accumulate debts.

When someone says the Trump years were prosperous because they had more money in their pocket, it is coming from a position of concern for themselves. This selfishness is a lot more apparent in Reps because they never want people to look at the amount of debt Trump accumulated to make that happen or the part he played in destroying the dollar's value. They want people to believe that Democrats are the only ones driving the country into the toilet, which again proves what the Bible says about this world's politics being inherently rotten to the core, no matter who is in charge.

The riots were in liberal cities where the liberal leaders wouldn't allow the police to do their jobs. Even so, Trump didn't have six million killed - not even one - like Hitler did.

 

[Wrangler]

2. We should be even more political.

Yes, Christians should be more involved in politics. Recently it was said that the evangelical block in the US represents 70 M voters, the largest voting block. The kingdom of God is here, now.

It makes no sense to me that we have God lead our lives, our families, our communities - but not our government. WWJD is an excellent answer to any public policy question.

 

[MatthewG]

Being A-political it helps in not having to choose a side.

There are people in politics who are Christians: the thing is I choose to not openly get involved. Will listen to the issues if someone desires to talk about it however most of the time my life remains silent from to much hearing of any of it.

 

[Wynona]

Maybe whether to be more or less political isn't the question.

I know that Christians have done great things politically. But I also know that tribalism and an us-vs-them mentality can develop with politics.

So maybe not more or less, but be led of the Spirit.

 

[DuckieLady]

I am torn between two ways of thinking.

1. Christianity should be less political. We belong to the eternal Kingdom and the world and its systems are passing away. We need to stop over emphasizing America, the President, and political parties and put the emphasis on Christ.

2. We should be even more political. God always had a hand in politics in the Bible. We should have influence over politics so that Godly values can help the country go in a better direction. We should be voting and voting for the right people.

Help would be appreciated. Can you give your thoughts? Lets keep love, respect, and civility in this discussion. Think about unsaved people and what we reflect to them in our discourse.

I don't like politics, but there's no denying that Christianity has always been political, and God has always been involved, all over the Old Testament.

You'll get a lot of feedback on this so I'll keep my response short.

Psalm 20:7-9

Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God.

They are brought to their knees and fall, but we rise up and stand firm.

O LORD, save the king! Answer us when we call!

 

[Jay Ross]

Hello

I thing the question should be: -

Should Christianity be less pickled. Or should that "fickle?"

 

[Mark51]

Christians should not be "political" at all. Yes, it can be hard not to become political and involved in some manner. It is hard for me at times. Address this personal issue to Almighty God through prayer. Should we not put all of our faith in our Heavenly Father? Consider only a few related scriptures to your question: Psalms 60:11; 118:8, 9; 146:3; Isaiah 40:15; Jeremiah 17:5, 7; Ezekiel 11:12; John 18:36; Acts 4:12.