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Wrangler

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You make an assumption that Jesus' ressurection must be before  dawn
No assumption sir. Scripture explictly states Jesus was put in the ground as the sun was setting, i.e., dusk. Also, it states, like Jonah, he was i the Earth for 3 days and 3 nights. That takes us back to dusk, not dawn.
 
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Thanks for lifting up my hands to be strong, Brother. I need all the help I can get! I trust and pray your heart is steadfast and unmovable, always abounding, etc.
I shall be your Aaron and you can be my Hur-we need each other in these trying times brother.

Exo 17:10 So Joshua did as Moses told him, and fought with Amalek, while Moses, Aaron, and Hur went up to the top of the hill.
Exo 17:11 Whenever Moses held up his hand, Israel prevailed, and whenever he lowered his hand, Amalek prevailed.
Exo 17:12 But Moses' hands grew weary, so they took a stone and put it under him, and he sat on it, while Aaron and Hur held up his hands, one on one side, and the other on the other side. So his hands were steady until the going down of the sun.

Later.
Johann.
 
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You are much too kind, Brother J. Don't feel bad, though. I have to lie down and relax fully before I can brave some of your dissertations - lol. ;)

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Lol!-don't mind Johann brother-a dissertationist he is-and will remain as such.
Love you brother.
Johann.
 

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No assumption sir. Scripture explictly states Jesus was put in the ground as the sun was setting, i.e., dusk
Where is the scripture?

Quote from Wrangler: "Jesus was put in the ground as the sun was setting i.e., dusk"

NO EVIDENCE WRANGLER!!!!

Being put in the ground is not resurrection, for crying out loud!

Your position is a presumptuous position of speculation.
 

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Also, it states, like Jonah, he was i the Earth for 3 days and 3 nights. That takes us back to dusk, not dawn
Where does the Bible say Jesus ressurected from the dead at dusk?
Answer: NOWHERE.
That is your imagination from the teachings of men that teach fables.

2Timothy 4:4,
- and they will turn thier ears away from the truth and be turned aside to fables
 

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NOWHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT JESUS BEING RESSURECTED BEFORE DAWN!
Nowhere in the Bible does it say anything about him being ressurrected at dawn either. See how that works?

All it says is that Mary saw him at dawn.
 

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Where does the Bible say Jesus ressurected from the dead at dusk?
Answer: NOWHERE.
I just explained where it says that Jesus was resurrected 3 days after he was put in the ground, which was dusk. Odd that you ask a question I just answered.
 
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Where does the Bible say Jesus ressurected from the dead at dusk?
Answer: NOWHERE.
That is your imagination from the teachings of men that teach fables.

2Timothy 4:4,
- and they will turn thier ears away from the truth and be turned aside to fables
 

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I just explained where it says that Jesus was resurrected 3 days after he was put in the ground, which was dusk. Odd that you ask a question I just answered
Wheres the scripture?
I'm not going to take your word for it.
 

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Hello Johann, what day of the week is preparation day?
 

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I agree with this. The end of the Sabbath is sunset on Saturday - not dawn.
You assume Jesus ressurected at dusk. You assume dusk is the end of the last day, Saturday.
The Bible only speaks of the very first eyewitness of Jesus after death is at dawn.
Nowhere is there any passage that says Jesus was seen by anyone after His death before dawn!!!!
You apparently are unable to see your not using scripture to come to your conclusions. Only a preconceived doctrine taught in certain sects.
 

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19:31; John 19:14–16 ; Mark 15:42; Mark 15:33; Mark 42:46
I asked you to show me where Jesus was ressurected at dusk on the last day of the week!!!
You have not given any scripture that says what you teach.

Mark 42:46? There is no Mark 42:46

John 19:14-16,
- Now it was the preparation day of the passover and about the sixth hour and he said to the Jews Behold your King.
Then he delivered Him to them to be crucified. So the took Jesus and led Him away
NO EVIDENCE HE WAS RESSURECTED AT DUSK ON THE LAST DAY OF THE WEEK.

Mark 15:42,
- Now when evening had come because it was the preparation day that is the day before the Sabbath.
NO EVIDENCE HE WAS RESSURECTED AT DUSK ON THE LAST DAY OF THE WEEK.

Mark 15:33,
- Now when the sixth hour had come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour
NO EVIDENCE HE WAS RESSURECTED AT DUSK ON THE LAST DAY OF THE WEEK.

Mark 19:31,
- Therefore, because it was the preparation day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath for the Sabbath was a high day, the Jews asked for Pilate that their legs might be broken and that they might be taken away.
NO EVIDENCE HE WAS RESSURECTED AT DUSK ON THE LAST DAY OF THE WEEK.

Your doctrine is nowhere found in any of the passages you gave.
You only claim
Jesus was ressurected on the Sabbath at dusk.
Not one scripture you gave says Jesus ressurected exactly at dusk like you claim.

I go by what the Bible says not by what I imagine to be there.

Matthew 28:1,
- Now after the Sabbath as the first day of the week began to  dawn, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb.

The first eyewitness were after dusk. Sometime at dawn is when the first eyewitness saw that Jesus was not in His tomb.

Wrangler what day of the week is preparation day held on?
 

Titus

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No. I calculate 3 days from now is the same time of day 3 days from now.

Beyond that, you don’t have the Spirit, brother. Sense your anger with every post.

Make a blessed day!
Your senses are your feelings. Use scripture and you will have sound arguments.
You have so far given no evidence.

3 days means 3 days doesn't prove anything!
You make the time of Jesus' ressurection very specific. You say it occurred exactly at dusk on the last day of the week.
No evidence
What day of the week is preparation day Wrangler?
 

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Hello Johann, what day of the week is preparation day?
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Titus

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Beyond that, you don’t have the Spirit, brother. Sense your anger with every post.
How do you know? I dont make personal statements about others unless I can prove it to be true.
If you think my CAPITALE letters mean anger, you are mistaken.
I capitalize for only for expressing my point.

Where does the Bible teach anger is without the Spirit?
Not that I am angry. I just want to know how you equate anger with absence of Spirit?

Jesus got angry,
Ephesians 4:26,
- Be angry and do not sin, do not let the sun go down on your wrath.