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DPMartin

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seduction

The action or an act of seducing (a person) to err in conduct or belief; allurement (to some course of action).


seduce

1. trans. To persuade (a vassal, servant, soldier, etc.) to desert his allegiance or service.
2. In wider sense: To lead (a person) astray in conduct or belief; to draw away from the right or intended course of action to or into a wrong one; to tempt, entice, or beguile to do something wrong, foolish, or unintended. a. of persons or their action.



manipulation


4. The act of operating upon or managing persons or things with dexterity; esp. with disparaging implication, unfair management or treatment (of documents, etc.).


hence what happens here is the attempted seduction to see first if it works amongst a cross section of Christianity . if you get a lot of likes and agrees posted then eureka you can spread that horse dump for your benefit. to seduce and manipulate Christians.

thing is this shows by the very thing that is valued here, your own opinions. and these who value their own opinions are targets for such seduction and manipulation. because if you idolize your own opinion then most likely your god is like you in your own image of what a god ought to be.


which leaves you outside looking in, because your own judgement has kept you in the dark you were born into, not knowing the Living God but judging who and what He ought to be and be like, which proves you don't know Him, and that you only know your opinion.


those who trust what God says are not the target of seduction and manipulation, it is those who value their own opinion of what God ought to be and be like, which is the majority of the human population, especially so called Christians.
 
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Like your post ~

Disagree with one point.

Everyone is a TARGET.

One Trusting God; Electing God;
IS still a TARGET, but cannot be Captured, Swayed, Overcome, BY the one who Targets the man.

Scripture calls it the TEMPTER who Attempts to TEMPT.

Scripture calls it the ONE IN Christ, is KEPT in Christ, by the POWER of God, who IS Christ, that the TEMPTER, will continue to TRY TEMPTING, but then he CAN NOT prevail.

God Bless,
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Or they are in a valley between Mount Zion and Mount Sinai and He will lead them out of it, He is with them. Valleys don't go on and on forever and ever.

If He was with them, they wouldn't be on the outside looking in would they?
 

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If He was with them, they wouldn't be on the outside looking in would they?

You are correct. Those who look in don't have a key to go through the door. Jesus is the door of the sheep and anyone who enters any other way is a thief. Why are the sheep not noticing? What responsibility do the sheep have?
 

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We are seduced the most by our own opinion
every once in a while you actually speak the truth. l have been saying that in as many ways as l can think of since I've been on this site.

when you think about it, just how narsisitic is that?
 
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You are correct. Those who look in don't have a key to go through the door. Jesus is the door of the sheep and anyone who enters any other way is a thief. Why are the sheep not noticing? What responsibility do the sheep have?

unless they respond accordingly are they not the Lord's sheep, because the Lord's sheep know His voce which is the Truth, not their sensibilities of what feels good. in their views of a Mary Poppins version of Christianity.
 

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unless they respond accordingly are they not the Lord's sheep, because the Lord's sheep know His voce which is the Truth, not their sensibilities of what feels good. in their views of a Mary Poppins version of Christianity.

The Lord''s sheep are not penned up, they are free to wander, explore and question while the Holy Spirit works in them, speaking of Jesus to them. Those who are not His do not hear the Holy Spirit, Jesus does not live in them.

Whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord is His, we are not judge and jury. Oftentimes we can easily spot those not of the fold and speak of Jesus to them, being the door. It can be welcomed or dismissed but it''s the Holy Spirit''s job to bring revelation to them, not ours. Sometimes it''s confusing as to who belongs in the fold because of their warped views and we witness they don't "live right". The Holy Spirit is not intrusive or a bolt of lightening, He works slowly in all of us.

The valleys are real and at times even the elect can doubt they are His and are told by others they don't have the Truth in them but we are seduced by His irresistible Grace and He transforms us. None of His are who we once were but it takes time, we are always transforming. Our perfection is in Him.
 
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every once in a while you actually speak the truth. l have been saying that in as many ways as l can think of since I've been on this site.

when you think about it, just how narsisitic is that?


I think the point is ....

When you agree with someone, agreeing is sufficient.

When you begin by slamming another,

every once in a while you actually speak the truth.

your agreement falls to the wayside.

God Bless.
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The Lord''s sheep are not penned up, they are free to wander, explore and question while the Holy Spirit works in them, speaking of Jesus to them. Those who are not His do not hear the Holy Spirit, Jesus does not live in them.

Whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord is His, we are not judge and jury. Oftentimes we can easily spot those not of the fold and speak of Jesus to them, being the door. It can be welcomed or dismissed but it''s the Holy Spirit''s job to bring revelation to them, not ours. Sometimes it''s confusing as to who belongs in the fold because of their warped views and we witness they don't "live right". The Holy Spirit is not intrusive or a bolt of lightening, He works slowly in all of us.

The valleys are real and at times even the elect can doubt they are His and are told by others they don't have the Truth in them but we are seduced by His irresistible Grace and He transforms us. None of His are who we once were but it takes time, we are always transforming. Our perfection is in Him.

just keep looking to the Lord armadillo one must be called, chosen, and faithful. and all three are the result of the Lord He calls you He choses you and is faithful to be with you, and result of that is your fulfillment in Christ Jesus.
 
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I think the point is ....

When you agree with someone, agreeing is sufficient.

When you begin by slamming another,



your agreement falls to the wayside.

God Bless.
Taken
what is this facebook etiquette? who cares about your opinion.
 

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what is this facebook etiquette? who cares about your opinion.

If a note of wisdom does not fancy you, then ignore them. But try to keep in mind, you are not the only one on this forum.

BTW, this form is not facebook.


God Bless,
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If a note of wisdom does not fancy you, then ignore them. But try to keep in mind, you are not the only one on this forum.

BTW, this form is not facebook.


God Bless,
Taken

oh is that what you think your opinion is?
 

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oh is that what you think your opinion is?

Receive the WISOM of the Lord and you might discover...

Saying something to another to the effect of:
" Hey untruthful you finally agreed with me, so you are not as totally untruthful as you usually are."

IS not a WISE way to teach about heavenly things. Doesn't really matter to me if you think it my sole devised opinion or not.

God Bless,
Taken
 
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