I think the idea that their faith in their theory can atrophy, will put the fear of God in some Evolutionists!
Scripture says "in His Name, the Gentiles will trust" - what will 'Evolutionist Gentiles' trust in Jesus?
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There is a pattern in Creation, that bears out why species don't change: each generation is brought about by the fusion of two members.
So if there is a pattern of fusion, from one generation to the next, what will develop? Stronger fusion?
That's not Evolution!
So if there is a pattern of fusion, from one generation to the next, what will develop? Stronger fusion?
That's not Evolution!
The point is that there are not greater and greater ways of creating fusion (inner-specieally).
The more you pervert fusion, the less of the only fusion you have, will work.
The more you pervert fusion, the less of the only fusion you have, will work.
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Maybe this is the point: the more you exercise the versatility of your word (which the words of Jesus are, that is the most versatile that can be), the denser your adaptations (and hence your Evolution) can be (that is, the more adaptation you are able to sustain, over all, in principle).
It's like muscle: exercise creates strength.
I think when Evolutionist Gentiles realise how much more effective they are, concerning going "the extra mile" (say), they will start to realise Jesus (and therefore God) is not against them being at their best!
It's like muscle: exercise creates strength.
I think when Evolutionist Gentiles realise how much more effective they are, concerning going "the extra mile" (say), they will start to realise Jesus (and therefore God) is not against them being at their best!
Whether evolution happened or not has nothing to do with the faith how the world was created has no bearing on our salvation and is not the reason why we need salvation.You have to first understand why salvation is needed.
There are reconstructed dinosaurs in museum s all over the world my kid found one in Drumheller dug it out of the ground in front of me.Do I tell my kid its all a lie and not real after they just dug a fossil from the ground and saw all the dinosaurs in the museum.How do you deny whats right in front of you as false.
Don't say Satan created it Satan is not a God and does not create he destroys what God has created because of his hatred for all humanity and Gods creation along with all the other fallen Angels and the last thing they want is a human soul to enter heaven which they were able to accomplish with the fall of humanity. The reason why you need salvation - you cannot ascend to heaven in your present state only through Christ can that happen.Its why Jesus came so you can ascend to heaven in him because you can't do it on your own.
Many will not be able to accept this in the modern world that they and the world are in a fallen state and cannot ascend to heaven without Christ which cannot be believed in modern times by many people.This is a time when the bible and the ways of Christ get pushed aside for wealth and power.
Your enemy is Satan and the fallen Angels not people they are the enemies of salvation and they want your soul do not ever forget that or you may loose your soul.
There are reconstructed dinosaurs in museum s all over the world my kid found one in Drumheller dug it out of the ground in front of me.Do I tell my kid its all a lie and not real after they just dug a fossil from the ground and saw all the dinosaurs in the museum.How do you deny whats right in front of you as false.
Don't say Satan created it Satan is not a God and does not create he destroys what God has created because of his hatred for all humanity and Gods creation along with all the other fallen Angels and the last thing they want is a human soul to enter heaven which they were able to accomplish with the fall of humanity. The reason why you need salvation - you cannot ascend to heaven in your present state only through Christ can that happen.Its why Jesus came so you can ascend to heaven in him because you can't do it on your own.
Many will not be able to accept this in the modern world that they and the world are in a fallen state and cannot ascend to heaven without Christ which cannot be believed in modern times by many people.This is a time when the bible and the ways of Christ get pushed aside for wealth and power.
Your enemy is Satan and the fallen Angels not people they are the enemies of salvation and they want your soul do not ever forget that or you may loose your soul.
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Something that puts a lid on the Creation/Evolution debate is this:
In other words, discovery reveals the hidden, but how it was hidden is lost to time - you can't prove that President Lincoln was assassinated scientifically.
There is a distinction that Evolutionists don't seem to make, when they are talking about the relationship between species: identifying where a species is from is not a function of its design, but is an equation (between one species and another).
In other words they are trying to fit a square block (design) into a round hole (equation).
That's not wrong, if you don't bet the house on the outcome (that something will change).
In other words they are trying to fit a square block (design) into a round hole (equation).
That's not wrong, if you don't bet the house on the outcome (that something will change).
I actually got somewhere, with this (trust for Evolutionist Gentiles). The Devil is afraid of developing an "inner failing". An "inner failing" is a state within that doesn't respond to reality. The Devil boasting in his Evolution, has no guarantee that he won't have an inner failing in the end. Actually an inner failing is needed, to reset (the Evolutional process) for the next generation. If you do this too early, the young don't learn; if you do this too late, the pack doesn't grasp the hunt.
When you get to the end of the race, you turn the engine off, otherwise you risk losing the functionality of the vehicle.
When you get to the end of the race, you turn the engine off, otherwise you risk losing the functionality of the vehicle.
There are two things that get in the way of someone understanding "Evolution": Darwin's 'eye' and the mystery of perdition.
Darwin's eye, refers to the fact that Darwin saw a connection between species. The only evidence for this, is that he sees it.
The mystery of perdition, is that when you decide to keep going, you start to lose what you are (keeping) going for.
Someone who believes that Darwin's eye does see evidence (like the "emporer's clothes") and someone who is prepared to lose what they have on the way (but only in part), are essentially dividing themselves from the need to do anything but give an opinion.
Someone who only offers an opinion and nothing else, corrupts the power of sense (without the power of sense, you ask amiss, fatigue quickly and doubt even greatest meaning).
I suppose what I am doing here is taking stock - character in God should be blessed, not derided (selah)
Darwin's eye, refers to the fact that Darwin saw a connection between species. The only evidence for this, is that he sees it.
The mystery of perdition, is that when you decide to keep going, you start to lose what you are (keeping) going for.
Someone who believes that Darwin's eye does see evidence (like the "emporer's clothes") and someone who is prepared to lose what they have on the way (but only in part), are essentially dividing themselves from the need to do anything but give an opinion.
Someone who only offers an opinion and nothing else, corrupts the power of sense (without the power of sense, you ask amiss, fatigue quickly and doubt even greatest meaning).
I suppose what I am doing here is taking stock - character in God should be blessed, not derided (selah)
There isn't even one "type" of equation. People who think they have the right equation, to describe every species on Earth, don't understand equation.
In other words, a relaxed standard of progress, is more effective than a stringent one.
This is contrary to Evolution, which says that only ruthless selection succeeds.
There is a thought that goes with Evolution, that might interest Evolutionists: it's possible to graft yourself on to an "Evolution" that is greater than yours. This makes more sense as a 'spiritual change', and amounts to "choosing the right master" - a master who has nothing to show you, can't help you survive; a master who can show you the ins and outs of faith, can help you flourish, much less 'survive'.
Scripture talks a lot about this "grafting", especially in one of Paul's letters (which escapes me, but it is there). Scripture warns that unless we are fruitful, our branch will be cast out and burned. I think it is something Evolutionists have a conscience about: that is, if there is Evolution, where do you get it from (while you are still breathing)? There's no way restart the clock as a butterfly and how would you build a cocoon anyway? No, the answer is to graft on to what God says to graft on to.
If you can graft successfully, then your fruit will flourish with you and the roots of what you have been grafted on to, will save you. It will come down to how strongly you are grafted, not how much you imagine yourself to have 'survived'.
Let me know what you think.
Scripture talks a lot about this "grafting", especially in one of Paul's letters (which escapes me, but it is there). Scripture warns that unless we are fruitful, our branch will be cast out and burned. I think it is something Evolutionists have a conscience about: that is, if there is Evolution, where do you get it from (while you are still breathing)? There's no way restart the clock as a butterfly and how would you build a cocoon anyway? No, the answer is to graft on to what God says to graft on to.
If you can graft successfully, then your fruit will flourish with you and the roots of what you have been grafted on to, will save you. It will come down to how strongly you are grafted, not how much you imagine yourself to have 'survived'.
Let me know what you think.
It is worth noting: without conviction, you can never vary - that never changes (selah).
An Evolutionist may believe Evolution, but may not know why, therefore he will never change.
An Evolutionist may believe Evolution, but may not know why, therefore he will never change.
Interestingly, I wrote a thread on types of listening and it dawned on me that are different ways to adapt the same pressure.
If you listen with your head, your adaptation will be different from a situation where you listen with your heart - in both cases you are listening and adapting listening, but in both cases you are doing it differently. These things don't clash, but complement. Adaptations are able to complement each other - that is the power of Design!
If adaptations can complement each other, they can also pinpoint weaknesses. The answer then, is not more mutation, but more empowered design - we can pray to God that He empowers our design!
If you listen with your head, your adaptation will be different from a situation where you listen with your heart - in both cases you are listening and adapting listening, but in both cases you are doing it differently. These things don't clash, but complement. Adaptations are able to complement each other - that is the power of Design!
If adaptations can complement each other, they can also pinpoint weaknesses. The answer then, is not more mutation, but more empowered design - we can pray to God that He empowers our design!
soberxp
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Why bother with evolution? You believe in Jesus Christ. You have eternal life. Do you want to express that this is the ultimate goal of evolution? Natural of God selection, survival of the fittest.(not Natural of beast selection, )
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I appreciate your sentiment - indeed I do not want to give place, to something that defies God - but what do you think of this:
The only pressure in Heaven, is to be close to God (selah)
Can you see this is relevant to how you spend your time in Heaven?
soberxp
Active Member
I see, and understand it well.
I agree.
I think that I will have more things to learn from our God in heaven.
In Australia, Evolutionists seem to support the idea that "loosening the reigns, a little, helps the [Evolutionary process] work better".
I mean, people in Australia say "take it easy, mate" and "no worries" and when it comes to Evolution, they don't seem to change that.
It's something that would apply in any nation, if you could find room enough to make the point?
I mean, people in Australia say "take it easy, mate" and "no worries" and when it comes to Evolution, they don't seem to change that.
It's something that would apply in any nation, if you could find room enough to make the point?
I think the sad thing is, that the world is always going to take the "predator's" path.
Jesus said "Behold I send you out as sheep among wolves" - He wouldn't say that, if wolves were eventually going to become sheep (because He said His word will never pass away).
I guess all we can do, is pray that the wolves get domesticated!
Jesus said "Behold I send you out as sheep among wolves" - He wouldn't say that, if wolves were eventually going to become sheep (because He said His word will never pass away).
I guess all we can do, is pray that the wolves get domesticated!
Dash RipRock
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The only evolution that exists is God created man perfect and man sinned and has been going downhill ever since!
Wait till the mate meets his fate!
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