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Satan's deception= Satan trys to condemn us for our mistakes in our past but when Satan trys that we remind him of his eternal future in the lake of fire! Victory is ours PTL.
God created Satan to serve his purpose. Satan will be tossed into the Lake of Fire and, thereafter, will join the rest of us in God's kingdom on the new Earth.

Revelation 20:10 YLT
and the Devil, who is leading them astray, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where [are] the beast and the false prophet, and they shall be tormented day and night -- to the ages of the ages.
 

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Many will quote the Bible, and share the same fate as Satan.

"Unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and the pharisees, you will by no means enter Heaven"

"Unless you have the righteousness of a little child, you shall by no means enter Heaven"
 
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Satan is a example of what not to do. Pride and vanity. Ezekiel chapter 28, satan is going into lake of fire. Pride is down fall for lot of people. Usery is another trick satan uses to put people in Bondage. Like credit cards or mortgage loans. Proverbs chapter 1, all wisdom and knowledge comes from God. Lot of people reject God's counsel. So there you go.
 
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remind him of his eternal future in the lake of fire
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Is it wise to talk to Satan?
Don't see anything about that in God's Doctrine below...
Satan is a example of what not to do. Pride and vanity.
The Scriptural Doctrine Of "what To DO" Correct?:

"Finally, my brethren, be strong in The LORD, and in The Power of His Might.
Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles
of the devil.​
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against
powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual
wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God,
that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.​
Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with Truth, and having on
the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation
of The Gospel of Peace;​
Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench
all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and
The Word of The Spirit, Which is The Word of God:​
Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching
thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; And for me,
that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to
make known
The Mystery of The Gospel"
(Ephesians 12:11-19 cp "all men" in Ephesians 3:9)​

"talk to the devil"? or: humbly "preaching The Gospel To All mankind"? Amen?

Grace, Peace, And JOY In Christ, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided (+ I and II)
! ← part of 'The Mystery of The Gospel'?

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God created Satan to serve his purpose. Satan will be tossed into the Lake of Fire and, thereafter, will join the rest of us in God's kingdom on the new Earth.

Revelation 20:10 YLT
and the Devil, who is leading them astray, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where [are] the beast and the false prophet, and they shall be tormented day and night -- to the ages of the ages.
God didn't created a Satan or a devil he created an angel who became the Satan and the Devil because of his rebellion against the True God. God didn't created this angel to be rebellious or disobedient
 

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God didn't created a Satan or a devil he created an angel who became the Satan and the Devil because of his rebellion against the True God. God didn't created this angel to be rebellious or disobedient

I used to think that too until someone pointed out that Jesus said that Satan was a murderer from the beginning.
 

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I used to think that too until someone pointed out that Jesus said that Satan was a murderer from the beginning.
The phrase from the beginning doesn't mean from the beginning that God created the angel that became the Satan and the Devil. The phrase, from the beginning, has to be looked at in the context it's written. So in scripture where is says Satan was a murderer from the beginning it doesn't mean from the beginning of his creation but from the beginning of his acting treacherously.
 

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God didn't created a Satan or a devil he created an angel who became the Satan and the Devil because of his rebellion against the True God. God didn't created this angel to be rebellious or disobedient
Wrong!!!
Only God can create.... Good or Evil.... As no created being could create evil out side of God!!!

Pay attention!!!

NASB Pro 16:4 The LORD has made everything for its own purpose, Even the wicked for the day of evil.


KJV Ecc 1:13 And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven: this sore7451 travail hath God given to the sons of man to be exercised therewith.

Word Study: H7451 רע ra‛, ָרָעה

rā‛āh: An adjective meaning bad, evil.

Concordant OT Ecc 1:13 “It is an experience of evil Elohin [God] has given to the sons of humanity to humble them by it.”

Who made the Serpant??? (No angel of light here!!!)

Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the LORD God had made.

1Jo 3:8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning (g746). The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil.

Was your angel of light sinning form the beginning.... ???
G746
ἀρχή
archē
Thayer Definition:
1) beginning, origin


Job 26:13 By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent.

2Co 11:3
But I am afraid that, as the serpent3789 deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ.
G3789 ὄφις óphis; gen. ópheōs, masc. noun.
A snake, serpent. The Gr. word drákōn (G1404), dragon, was a huge serpent

Rev 20:2 And he seized the dragon, that ancient744 serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years,

G744 ἀρχαῖος archaios
Thayer Definition:
that has been from the beginning, original

Satan is no fallen angel.... He was created just like Pharoah... for a purpose used by God!


Isa 54:16 Behold, I have created the smith [Satan] that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.

1Pe 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:

Heb 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

Really.... A created being of God... created something God could not.... or something outside of God's will.... are you serious?? I have no words to describe your blasphemy.

SATAN ALWAYS SHOWS UP WHERE HE IS NEEDED

Satan entered Eden as "that Old Serpent [Satan]" and deceived Eve to eat of the forbidden fruit. Satan didn’t sneak into the garden against God’s will. He performed a needful task with our first parents. God knew what Satan was going to do to Adam and Eve. God did not try to prevent it. It is all part of God’s master plan.

Just as God has provided food for mankind, He has also provided food for Satan. And just what kind of food does Satan dine on? Satan dines on mankind.

"And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because you have done this, you are cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon your belly shall you go, and DUST SHALL YOU EAT all the days of your life" (Gen. 3:14).

This is, of course a parable. That "serpent" in the garden was none other than

"…that OLD SERPENT, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceives the whole world…" (Rev. 12:9).

And this is the same serpent that "deceived" Eve.

Man is the "dust of the earth" upon which Satan dines: "The first man [Adam] is of the earth, earthy [dust]…" (I Cor. 15:47). Man IS ‘dust.’

"…for DUST you are, and unto DUST shall you return" (Gen. 3:19).

When God told the serpent devil Satan that he would eat DUST, He was telling him that he would eat MAN (adam). And this is exactly what Peter tells us in his epistle:

"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walks about, seeking whom he may devour [Gk: swallow down/eat]" (I Pet. 5:8).

Satan dines and thrives on the meat of the "carnal [Greek: sarx; flesh] mind [which] is enmity [hostility/hatred] against God: for it is not subject to the [spiritual] law of God, neither indeed can be" (Rom. 8:7).

Satan does not seek to devour everyone for food; only those who are carnally [fleshly] minded represent a great steak dinner to him.

Satan even had King David for dinner:

"And SATAN stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel" (I Chron. 21:1).

But always remember, Satan never operates beyond his God-given parameters as we will see in the case of Job.

God gave Satan charge over Job, his body, and all his possessions, to try him severely before God:

"And the Lord said unto SATAN, Behold, he [Job] is in your hand; but save his life" (Job 2:6).

It was GOD’S idea to severely try Job, not Satan’s. But Satan took strict orders from God as to just how he could try Job. Satan got permission from God at each and every step of this severe trying of Job. Do we think God does it differently today? Do we think Satan now has "free reign"- "free will?" Do we think that God "changes?" Nonsense: "For I am the LORD, I change not…" (Mal. 3:6).

David prayed for God to use Satan in judging his enemies:

"Set you a wicked man over him: and let SATAN stand at his right hand" (Psalm 109:6).

Are not these activities of Satan necessary? Does God use Satan for no good purpose? Then why can’t men see that God also CREATED Satan for these very purposes?

Satan is constantly finding fault with God’s Chosen ones:

"And he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and SATAN standing at his right hand to resist [accuse] him" (Zech. 3:1).

Remember, Satan can do NOTHING without God’s approval. When God completed His creating, He said

"And God saw EVERY THING that He had made [including Satan, the Adversary], and, behold, it was VERY GOOD…" (Gen. 1:31).

Satan was not only necessary, but he was, in fact, PERFECT for the job that God created him to fulfill.
 

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How true!!===The prophet says, “You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, till iniquity was found in you” (Ezek. 28:14). That tells us that God created Lucifer, and that when he was created he was a holy angel, without sin. God could not be perfectly righteous Himself and create something evil.
 

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Wrong!!!
Only God can create.... Good or Evil.... As no created being could create evil out side of God!!!

Pay attention!!!

NASB Pro 16:4 The LORD has made everything for its own purpose, Even the wicked for the day of evil.


KJV Ecc 1:13 And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven: this sore7451 travail hath God given to the sons of man to be exercised therewith.

Word Study: H7451 רע ra‛, ָרָעה

rā‛āh: An adjective meaning bad, evil.

Concordant OT Ecc 1:13 “It is an experience of evil Elohin [God] has given to the sons of humanity to humble them by it.”

Who made the Serpant??? (No angel of light here!!!)

Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the LORD God had made.

1Jo 3:8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning (g746). The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil.

Was your angel of light sinning form the beginning.... ???
G746
ἀρχή
archē
Thayer Definition:
1) beginning, origin


Job 26:13 By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent.

2Co 11:3
But I am afraid that, as the serpent3789 deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ.
G3789 ὄφις óphis; gen. ópheōs, masc. noun.
A snake, serpent. The Gr. word drákōn (G1404), dragon, was a huge serpent

Rev 20:2 And he seized the dragon, that ancient744 serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years,

G744 ἀρχαῖος archaios
Thayer Definition:
that has been from the beginning, original

Satan is no fallen angel.... He was created just like Pharoah... for a purpose used by God!


Isa 54:16 Behold, I have created the smith [Satan] that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.

1Pe 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:

Heb 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

Really.... A created being of God... created something God could not.... or something outside of God's will.... are you serious?? I have no words to describe your blasphemy.

SATAN ALWAYS SHOWS UP WHERE HE IS NEEDED

Satan entered Eden as "that Old Serpent [Satan]" and deceived Eve to eat of the forbidden fruit. Satan didn’t sneak into the garden against God’s will. He performed a needful task with our first parents. God knew what Satan was going to do to Adam and Eve. God did not try to prevent it. It is all part of God’s master plan.

Just as God has provided food for mankind, He has also provided food for Satan. And just what kind of food does Satan dine on? Satan dines on mankind.

"And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because you have done this, you are cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon your belly shall you go, and DUST SHALL YOU EAT all the days of your life" (Gen. 3:14).

This is, of course a parable. That "serpent" in the garden was none other than

"…that OLD SERPENT, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceives the whole world…" (Rev. 12:9).

And this is the same serpent that "deceived" Eve.

Man is the "dust of the earth" upon which Satan dines: "The first man [Adam] is of the earth, earthy [dust]…" (I Cor. 15:47). Man IS ‘dust.’

"…for DUST you are, and unto DUST shall you return" (Gen. 3:19).

When God told the serpent devil Satan that he would eat DUST, He was telling him that he would eat MAN (adam). And this is exactly what Peter tells us in his epistle:

"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walks about, seeking whom he may devour [Gk: swallow down/eat]" (I Pet. 5:8).

Satan dines and thrives on the meat of the "carnal [Greek: sarx; flesh] mind [which] is enmity [hostility/hatred] against God: for it is not subject to the [spiritual] law of God, neither indeed can be" (Rom. 8:7).

Satan does not seek to devour everyone for food; only those who are carnally [fleshly] minded represent a great steak dinner to him.

Satan even had King David for dinner:

"And SATAN stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel" (I Chron. 21:1).

But always remember, Satan never operates beyond his God-given parameters as we will see in the case of Job.

God gave Satan charge over Job, his body, and all his possessions, to try him severely before God:

"And the Lord said unto SATAN, Behold, he [Job] is in your hand; but save his life" (Job 2:6).

It was GOD’S idea to severely try Job, not Satan’s. But Satan took strict orders from God as to just how he could try Job. Satan got permission from God at each and every step of this severe trying of Job. Do we think God does it differently today? Do we think Satan now has "free reign"- "free will?" Do we think that God "changes?" Nonsense: "For I am the LORD, I change not…" (Mal. 3:6).

David prayed for God to use Satan in judging his enemies:

"Set you a wicked man over him: and let SATAN stand at his right hand" (Psalm 109:6).

Are not these activities of Satan necessary? Does God use Satan for no good purpose? Then why can’t men see that God also CREATED Satan for these very purposes?

Satan is constantly finding fault with God’s Chosen ones:

"And he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and SATAN standing at his right hand to resist [accuse] him" (Zech. 3:1).

Remember, Satan can do NOTHING without God’s approval. When God completed His creating, He said

"And God saw EVERY THING that He had made [including Satan, the Adversary], and, behold, it was VERY GOOD…" (Gen. 1:31).

Satan was not only necessary, but he was, in fact, PERFECT for the job that God created him to fulfill.
I disagree that God knowingly and willingly created an angel to be a Satan or a Devil. God created angels with the ability to make free moral choices, and one of those angels chose to become the Satan and the Devil by choosing to rebel against God's rulership. God didn't knowingly, and willfully create someone to be rebellious. God didn't knowingly and willfully create someone to be disobedient to his rulership. You're saying that God approves of disobedience to his rulership because you're saying that God deliberately created an angel to be disobedient to his rulership, even though the scriptures show that God has never approved of disobedience.
 

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MAN DOES CREATE EVIL EVERYDAY anytime we choose to reject God and His Word we create more evil.!!! Wake up!!
 

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That's not creating evil, that's choosing to do evil. There's a difference between creating evil and choosing to do evil.
Think!! UNTIL Lucifer and Adam sinned there was no evil. Evil was created by satan and man and we create more evil everyday!