Satan Demons Angels and Spiritual Warfare

[David in NJ]

If only you understood what it is you are posting David! In your assumptions you make bold statements about Devils and Demons yet you do not know the context or do your care to look. Even the above post is hypocrisy and you know it.

If you know how the power of death was destroyed through Christ (called Devil) you would say.

You don't therefore you remain in Gentile Darkness.

Isaiah 42 is lost on you as is Acts 26...Hebrews 2 is unknown as is 1 Corinthians 15 and the list goes on and on.

It's not your fault as such but the one coming will deal with this mess!

F2F

James 4:6-7
But He gives more grace. Therefore He says:

“God resists the proud,
But gives grace to the humble.”

Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you."

 

[Christian Soldier]

@Christian Soldier

Lets look at another example shall we?

Then shouldn’t this woman, a daughter of Abraham whom Satan bound for eighteen long years, be released from this imprisonment on the Sabbath day?” Lk 13:16.

Let's do a contextual study together

Try and identify the adversary in this story.

Really think about the context!
Read all the verses around this story
Work out why its given the title Satan

F2F

Why do you insist on looking at the word "Satan" only when it's used in a few obscure verses, to describe a wicked person. Why don't you consider all the verses that describe, Lucifer the fallen Angel.

 

[David in NJ]

Why do you insist on looking at the word "Satan" only when it's used in a few obscure verses, to describe a wicked person. Why don't you consider all the verses that describe, Lucifer the fallen Angel.

Lucifer is not Satan?

 

[face2face]

James 4:6-7
But He gives more grace. Therefore He says:

“God resists the proud,
But gives grace to the humble.”

Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you."

Well at last you said something which is truthful! Hooray!

Notice how the word devil here is false accuser and the context is human pride?

Devil = the attribute of fleshly pride

Well done David!

F2F

 

[face2face]

Why do you insist on looking at the word "Satan" only when it's used in a few obscure verses, to describe a wicked person. Why don't you consider all the verses that describe, Lucifer the fallen Angel.

Provide a verse where Lucifer and this fallen angel are discussed in Scripture.

 

[face2face]

@Christian Soldier

Here is another one!

Context:

2:23 But reject foolish and ignorant controversies, because you know they breed infighting. 2:24 And the Lord’s slave must not engage in heated disputes but be kind toward all, an apt teacher, patient, 2:25 correcting opponents with gentleness.

So after being given the context - who are these opponents? Who opposed Christ and Paul?

Perhaps God will grant them repentance and then knowledge of the truth

So it's possible "there (& your) conversion might be possible!

and they will come to their senses (still wiating for you C.) and escape the devil’s (false accusers) trap where they are held captive to do his will 2 Ti 2:23–26.

See how the word devil or false accuser is used? You & I know it's speaking of the Judaizers who plagued Christs ministry and followed Paul everywhere!

Hope that helps

F2F

 

[David in NJ]

Well at last you said something which is truthful! Hooray!

All my Posts have the Truth of God's Word rightly divided = key words "rightly divided"

Notice how the word devil here is false accuser and the context is human pride?

It is very noticeable on this forum when individuals resist God by resisting the Truth.

Devil = the attribute of fleshly pride

"the flesh profits nothing. These words which I(JESUS) speak to you they are Spirit and they are Life."


How are you resisting the devil?

 

[Christian Soldier]

Lucifer is not Satan?

But He was Lucifer before He fell

 

[Christian Soldier]

Provide a verse where Lucifer and this fallen angel are discussed in Scripture.

If you don't know the story of Lucifer rebelling against God and being cast out of heaven along with His demons then you really need to go back to elementary school

 

[Christian Soldier]

@Christian Soldier

Here is another one!

Context:

2:23 But reject foolish and ignorant controversies, because you know they breed infighting. 2:24 And the Lord’s slave must not engage in heated disputes but be kind toward all, an apt teacher, patient, 2:25 correcting opponents with gentleness.

So after being given the context - who are these opponents? Who opposed Christ and Paul?

Perhaps God will grant them repentance and then knowledge of the truth

So it's possible "there (& your) conversion might be possible!

and they will come to their senses (still wiating for you C.) and escape the devil’s (false accusers) trap where they are held captive to do his will 2 Ti 2:23–26.

See how the word devil or false accuser is used? You & I know it's speaking of the Judaizers who plagued Christs ministry and followed Paul everywhere!

Hope that helps

F2F

That doesn't help at all, while you deny Gods Word and make a liar of Him. Yo have consistantly denied the fact that your enemy exists and that leaves you completley open for the enemy to poses you. My Pastor said, those who don't believe that Satan exists are actually possessed by Him and He won't allow them to see the truth.

I think my Pastor hit the nail on the head, he described your theology as the doctrine of demons.

 

[face2face]

If you don't know the story of Lucifer rebelling against God and being cast out of heaven along with His demons then you really need to go back to elementary school

No mention of a fallen angel in that chapter so I guess your answer is no.

 

[face2face]

That doesn't help at all, while you deny Gods Word and make a liar of Him. Yo have consistantly denied the fact that your enemy exists and that leaves you completley open for the enemy to poses you. My Pastor said, those who don't believe that Satan exists are actually possessed by Him and He won't allow them to see the truth.

I think my Pastor hit the nail on the head, he described your theology as the doctrine of demons.

And by the looks you are unable to answer that passage also!
Not looking good for you C.
F2F

 

[Cyd]

Provide a verse where Lucifer and this fallen angel are discussed in Scripture.

Here are some verses for you please explain.

Isaiah 14:12 (KJV) How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Luke 10:18 (KJV) And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Jude 6 (KJV) And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Revelation 12:7 (KJV) And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

Matthew 10:8 (KJV) Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

Matthew 4:1 (KJV) Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

 

[face2face]

Here are some verses for you please explain.

Isaiah 14:12 (KJV) How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Luke 10:18 (KJV) And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Jude 6 (KJV) And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Revelation 12:7 (KJV) And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

Matthew 10:8 (KJV) Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

Matthew 4:1 (KJV) Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

Hi Cyd,
Don't copy and paste the text assuming you know what it means. Each verse has different context and meaning. Choose one and provide an explanation otherwise please don't do that!
F2F

 

[Cyd]

Hi Cyd,
Don't copy and paste the text assuming you know what it means. Each verse has different context and meaning. Choose one and provide an explanation otherwise please don't do that!
F2F

I was not sure where to post as you started another thread on angels and you stated this:
"As we shall discover there is no such thing as an evil angel."

So you make it hard to follow all you are saying all you are talking about.

 

[face2face]

I was not sure where to post as you started another thread on angels and you stated this:
"As we shall discover there is no such thing as an evil angel."

So you make it hard to follow all you are saying all you are talking about.

Every text in the Word of God which is referring to Divine Messengers (angels) only has them as willing obedient beings who do God's pleasure.

Nowhere are they spoken of as being evil.

F2F

 

[Christian Soldier]

No mention of a fallen angel in that chapter so I guess your answer is no.

The bible doesn't mention many things but they are there if you know how to connect dots, but you obviously don't get that concept. As I said, only Gods elect can connect the dots, the rest are sealed in darkness, they are utterly blind.

 

[Christian Soldier]

And by the looks you are unable to answer that passage also!
Not looking good for you C.
F2F

 

[face2face]

The bible doesn't mention many things but they are there if you know how to connect dots, but you obviously don't get that concept. As I said, only Gods elect can connect the dots, the rest are sealed in darkness, they are utterly blind.

So you agree all of what you know about this is made up?

 

[Christian Soldier]

So you agree all of what you know about this is made up?

How did you conger up that idea, I never said any such foolish thing