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Now isn't that the real question to be answered?
Some believe we still have yet to be crucified in Christ, but if you have not been you will not have been born again, and that's going to cause some trouble following Christ, I should think!
Having been crucified with Christ, we are now to "put to death your members which are upon the earth." Very interesting way to put this!
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No I’m not. I said I was willing. So I gave harder and more bitter food to see if you refuse it or answer well.
We can look at this passage, but that's not what I was inviting you to do. OK, you seem to actually be willing for something else, but not that, so OK.
And you seem to see a bitterness there that I do not, apparently because you think God torments His children, and I do not. I think you've fully misapplied this parable to God's children, and this is why I asked you who the servants in Jesus parable are.
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Do you mean, when DOES that happen? Marks says it just magically happens but a man who has struggled and thirsted for righteousness and battled what appears to be in him that he can’t control will just scoff at that. He can clearly see he has not yet died. Dead men don’t shriek when someone steps on their toes.
Anyone God gave something to? I think this answer is rather incomplete.
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No surprise. But is doesn't change what the Bible says.
If our are in Christ, it's because you've been immersed into His death and burial, not some other way. And if you are not in Christ, your are none of His.
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I answered. The servants are those He gave something to. To whoever is given much, more is required. Or do you suppose the parables are not for us but for someone else…?
Go back to the standard wording there, it may make more sense. To be sure, I think saying "trust" is great, however,
Whether you are trusting/faithing, and whether you are "in the faith", one is something you are doing, the other is where you are.
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Dancing in circles, on and on in circles, won't someone have the conviction of their beliefs enough to just say them? But I understand that clear speech makes one vulnerable.
Parables, are they always every one intended to be about every person? To me that question answers itself, no, actually.
So to just say, Or don't you think that's for you, as some kind of accusation, how shallow!
I'm sorry! I'm looking for some real depth to this discussion.
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This is also speaking of a man who has died. A man who has had his flesh put under his feet and is no more tossed around by it.
I'm not one to contribute to your evasion of what I was saying. As I said, I don't mind discussing the parable with you, but you've been alluding to your negative opinions of me, I've invited you to just put them out there on the table, as it were. You responded with this. That's not what I was inviting you to do. As a way around that, it's shallow. As it's own discussion, it's valuable, if done well.
This is one of the things you are totally mistaken about me, thinking I want to avoid deep or difficult or hard sayings. You've seemed to completely convince yourself of that, and it hobbles our discussion.
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Just curious . . . do you see yourself as "crucified to the flesh", and me not?
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