Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy
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The rabbis of the dark ages 'devised new prayers that blasphemed Christ'. Can you show us one they devised in the New Testament?
Can you show us examples in the NT where 'the Christian believers were ousted from the synagogues'? Of course many years after the apostles; but not in their day. As Jesus assured Christians it would happen.
In fact, Acts recorded cases where the synagogues were virtually taken over by believing Jews (and Gentiles) from the unbelieving Jews who left by themselves after having been offended by Jesus Christ being preached in their congregations!
'Christians not wanting to be associated with or be mistakenly recognized as Jews, compromised...' 'Compromised' in what respect? What did they do to 'compromise'? Like Justin Martyr who compromised by propagating the typical diplomatic LIE, that like the Romans and their emperors, Christians also and just like they, worshipped pagan days of pagan deities like Saturn and the Sun? That is compromise that is surrender and submit to the heavenly rulers, not Christian Faith of Jesus.
Why do you find that funny? I know it doesn't always work that way, but it "should".
Truth
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NO! what I meant to say was GOD'S word. For all Scripture is given By Inspiration of God! OK! And the whole of the Bible was Written starting with Moses, and then the Prophet's, and then the Apostles, By God and through the Savior, the Son of God. Let us go to the Intro to the Book of the Revelation, OK! Chapt 1 verse 1- THE Revelation of JESUS , WHICH GOD GAVE HIM< to SHOW HIS Servants, The revelation came from Jesus, BUT It was given to Him, From GOD!!!!! To Show His Servants> SO it is God's Word, not some Religious Thing! God's Word is about living for Him, and living with Other's, In love as He love's Us.
Roman's 14 1-3 is about those that we need to care for, they are weak in the Spirit, being lead about by what they think and by what they hear other's say. They observe other's and they try to emulate their way's, thinking that what other's do is right, So yes we should always consider their weakness, even to the Point that we do not do what might be a stumbling block to them.
This thread is about keeping the Sabbath, and we have been trying to come to at least some sort of understanding about it.
OK! do you set apart any Day, that is totally set apart to God and Savior, where you do not do anything, like watch TV, talk about Sport's, AH! you know deny yourself the thing's that most people do on an every day thing. Do you keep a day where you speak about the Word, express the Word to other's, 24 hours of God and God's Word Only. It is all about God and Savior, God knew that Abraham would teach, and Instruct all those that were within His Assembly, God's Ways. And in doing so you will be Refreshed, Well rested.
SOOOOOO! will you answer My Question! Do keep the Commandment! that thou shall Love the Lord with all your Heart, and Soul, and With all Your Strength.????
I disagree about Sin being whatever we think is Sin, Let God and Savior be the Judge. Paul tells us that the Law reveled to us what Sin was, for we would not have known, except the teaches us!
pia
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Yes and Jesus said :" This one commandment I leave with you, that you love one another like I have loved you."...We could go around in circles for a fortnight, pointing out various things which have two opposing (at least) views in the bible....But I didn't come on this forum for that........As a matter of fact, there is just getting a little too much militarism here for my liking lately...
pia
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All you need do is to look at the more than a thousand various denominations out there, who all claim that they follow the same book...I will follow after what I have been taught by the Lord and if that differs with any or even all the denominations, I really do not care about that...Him ? That's another matter, I care deeply what He has to say, but this is not what I find a lot of other places...For anyone to tell me to believe a written document over and above what Jesus says, that to me is just foolishness....
pia
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hahaha, that is so funny you have no idea....so after many months here , you read one comment and judge me of the old covenant...that is truly hilarious, and goes to show exactly what we have been discussing on this forum many times, the quick snap judgements people make, uninformed and uninterested...
Are you suggesting Yeshua only gave us one command to obey? Here is a list of 49 others.
If, by "militarism", you mean "obedience", then you are in a sad spiritual condition. The spiritually minded man allows himself to be subject to the Law of YHWH and the carnally minded man refuses such subjection (Romans 8:7).
Their claims differ for two main reasons; 1) They do not have ears to hear what the Spirit is trying to teach them and 2) they do not know how to properly study Scripture.
Let me get this straight; are you saying that "Jesus" talks to you other than through Scripture and that if he says something different than what the Bible records him as saying, you will believe what you thought you heard him tell you? I thought Scripture was our anchor of truth and that any voice we hear that contradicts what was written is a deceiving spirit.
You say you keep these commandments greater than there is none? Admirable! Christ like man!
pia
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I do not ! I mean when it is without Love, doubt you'll find much love from a drill Sargent...
pia
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It may be yours, but I did not even know scriptures existed til approx 6 years after He showed me i had been wrong all my life, by not believing in Him ( I was 30 at that time )......Take that as you wish...Believe or don't, that is entirely up to you...What I would love to see, is people taking this to Him and wait for their own reply.......So you don't believe He is alive and real either ?
pia
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I took the Sabbath issue to my God, Yeshua's Father, Almighty YHWH. He replied by not only confirming this truth through Scripture, but through the gift of prophecy spoken by a visiting Sunday keeping Christian Pastor who I did not know and who did not know me. I broke down in tears when he spoke because his words confirmed that what I was learning about the Sabbath was true. He even said it "was not a work for salvation, but because of salvation". From that day forward I have kept the Sabbath and never looked back.
Is this a question asked in Love? Not even close.
Jun2u
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I apologize. I suppose I did not make myself clear enough.
Anyway, how do you understand the first part of Matthew 28:1? As I understood the verse to mean is that at the end of the Sabbaths (can only mean the era of Saturday Sabbaths is coming to an end) as it began to dawn towards the first of the Sabbaths (a new era of Sabbaths is coming into view).
It cannot be seen in the English Bible translations and why God allowed the miss-translation is beyond me.
Matthew 28:1 reads: “In the end of the Sabbaths, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week...”
This first half of Matthew 28:1 is what I’ll focus on.
The word “Sabbath” in Greek is the plural word “sabaton” and note the word “week” is also the identical plural Greek word “sabaton.” The word “week” is singular in the English language and contrary to the plural Greek word “sabaton.” We see how the first part of the passage makes sense and much clearer in the Greek.
Furthermore, the word “day” is italicized which the translators warns the reader that the word “day” was not in the original manuscripts. Perhaps the translators had no idea how to make of this problematic verse so they inserted the word “day” and changed the original word “Sabbaths” into “week.” We know this is not done and against the rules of any language structure, but God allowed it. Perhaps to foster unbelief?
The nature of the Seventh Day Sabbath was not to do any kind of work. By contrast, the Sunday Sabbath is to do work. "Spiritual work" that is as God declared in Isaiah 58:13-14!
The work we are to do are for example: study the Bible, write letters to love ones and tell them about the Gospel, visit hospitals or prisons to share Gospel, attend service at church, have Bible studies, give our tithes, and so forth.
Many Christians go to ball games, picnics, movies, or play sports at the park after Sunday Worship, and these activities are against Isaiah 58:13-14.
For now, I just want your input on the above, for I have other issues that need to be discussed.
To God Be The Glory
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