Re: Sexually Immoral

[dremnant]

...he did not actually get legally married and has instead just took her to some pastor and they claimed he married them.

Turns out she's getting some benefits each month that would go away if she were to get married legally so because of this they did not get married legally so they could game the system to keep her benefits by not filing a marriage license.

I don't count this as sexual immorality. But this is like the practice of filing fraudulent tax returns.

The bottom line here is they don't trust God to provide all their needs, so they resorted to deception which in my opinion is worse than fornication.

 

[amigo de christo]

No it does not.

oh it do . we just didnt realize it did .
The early church IS the CORRECT church . and thus whaterver is written applies to all even today .
This second rate accusation has went on long enough from the womens lib and etc and hates of the patriarchy so called system .
WE gots bible haters is the truth .
People dont like things that get in their way and by golly they gonna heed the story of whatever man
does that for them . Just facts my friend . people pick and choose all the time .
As for the sheep WE CHOSE ER WORD of the LORD . no excuses , just happy living for us .

 

[Grailhunter]

oh it do . we just didnt realize it did .
The early church IS the CORRECT church . and thus whaterver is written applies to all even today .
This second rate accusation has went on long enough from the womens lib and etc and hates of the patriarchy so called system .
WE gots bible haters is the truth .
People dont like things that get in their way and by golly they gonna heed the story of whatever man
does that for them . Just facts my friend . people pick and choose all the time .
As for the sheep WE CHOSE ER WORD of the LORD . no excuses , just happy living for us .

The early church IS the CORRECT church…..polygamy, concubinage, slavery, and women as property. Yeap that is it.
Like I said, a lot Christians have issues with women’s rights.
But we are working our way out of it.

 

[amigo de christo]

The early church IS the CORRECT church…..polygamy, concubinage, slavery, and women as property. Yeap that is it.
Like I said, a lot Christians have issues with women’s rights.
But we are working our way out of it.

the lens of man is upon thee my friend . rather odd i dont see it all like that .
You have sat and heeded the wrong men my friend .
But what you wrote does not and did not suprise me . REMEMBER i told ya
I KNOW what they did to the churches . They duped them my friend .
I was once the worst of the worst my friend . THEY duped ya .
Its time we bible up again . We dont need they greek , their hermes or they anything .
Just love once again to read that bible for you .
You all have ZERO idea of what i once was . SO we aint got the time for all that .
SO lets just say I WAS WICKED and yet most would have loved me in todays churches .
I know what THEY DID my friend . THEY DUPED these churches
and it came into BOTH SIDES . there be zero hope in men , in politics ,
we has got to return to the heavenly my friend . Back to TRUSTING ONLY IN GOD and IN HIS CHRIST
and in HIS WORDS again . I know what they did . and beleive me i was no better than they
I was just as guility . WE MUST return to GOD , TO CHRIST and again , into our own bibles for our own selves .

 

[Grailhunter]

WE MUST return to GOD , TO CHRIST

Never went away

 

[amigo de christo]

Never went away

Just remember you all have no idea what i once was . and todays churches WOULD HAVE LOVED ME as though i was GOD himself .
yet i was lost and in sin , wicked as hell . you better keep that in mind . These people are DECIEVERS my friend
BIBLE TIME . they LIED TO US grailhunter , they LIED TO US . and many have bought into the lie .
BIBLE TIME . its that simple .

 

[Dash RipRock]

I said Christianity eventually condemned it.

The Lord Himself condemned it in His Word.

It's not sexually immoral in the eyes of God

Unmarried people shaking up having sex is in fact sinful behavior, aka known as fornicating

BTW, I don't see evidence in Scripture

I posted the evidence already.

Feel free to pick and choose which passages in God's Word you want to disregard as being untrue.

Your entire argument collapses under one Greek word: porneía. It appears all throughout the New Testament and is consistently translated as “fornication” or “sexual immorality” — defined as any sexual activity outside of covenant marriage. Jesus uses it in Matthew 5:32, Paul in 1 Corinthians 6:18, and it’s one of the four foundational prohibitions for Gentile believers in Acts 15:20. You can’t erase that word or redefine it to fit your argument. Whether or not wedding ceremonies are cultural is irrelevant — what matters is covenant. Hebrews 13:4 is explicit: “Marriage is honorable in all, and the bed undefiled: but fornicators and adulterers God will judge.”

The Bible doesn’t need to outlaw polygamy line by line — Jesus already restored the original model in Matthew 19:4–6, quoting Genesis 2:24: “The two shall become one flesh.” Not three. Not seven. The early church affirmed monogamy as the covenant standard, and Paul reinforced this when he said elders must be “the husband of one wife” (1 Timothy 3:2). Your historical observations don’t justify lawlessness. They show how far man drifted from the standard Christ re-established. What you're preaching isn't truth — it's a license to sin, dressed in footnotes and distraction.

The argument that “living together isn’t a sin” collapses under Paul’s teaching in 1 Corinthians 6:16–17. He makes it clear that sexual union creates a spiritual bond, whether or not a ceremony took place: “Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, ‘The two will become one flesh.’” Paul isn’t just talking about prostitution — he’s warning that sex without covenant binds you to sin and defiles the body, which is meant to be the temple of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor 6:19–20). The issue isn’t whether a couple “stays together” after sex — it’s whether the union was entered into before God, with accountability, covenant, and holiness. Anything less than that is porneía — and no amount of historical trivia will change what the scriptures plainly declare.

Good post, thank you.



Apparently some on the forum here aren't walking with the Lord as they should be which is pretty sad.

That's how a lot of religious people roll in these end times where deception abounds

 

[Dash RipRock]

Then according to Augustine

He's a false teacher who is ignored by those who have the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ and who know God's Word.

Genesis defines the process of how a man and a woman form a marrage without a wedding ceremony

And then under the New Covenant He tells us to obey the laws of man for the sake of the Lord

You forgot to include this in your discourse.

no scripture associates polygamy with sin

God said one man shall cleave to one wife

Anything outside of that is sin because it's not what God said.

And as for church history — Luther said

Luther is a false teacher who is ignored by those who have the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ and who know God's Word.

 

[Dash RipRock]

The early church IS the CORRECT church…..

Before the Catholics brought in all the false doctrine!

 

[ProDeo]

Unmarried people shaking up having sex is in fact sinful behavior, aka known as fornicating

When does a couple become one flesh ?

I gave Scripture, just scroll back.