Questions For JW's

[JohnPaul]

Give it your best shot.....we study the Bible...Genesis to Revelation..... Have you?
It’s so easy to be an armchair critic and make ignorant comments based on what others may have told you.....so I suggest, instead on manking empty accusations, please give us examples of where you believe we have erred in our translation, and let’s examine them....honestly.

I make the same request of @Pearl....give us your scripture and tell us where we are wrong.
Anything you want to know about the the Father, son or holy spirit will be answered from the Bible.....one Witness who didn’t give you the answer you wanted is not representative of our entire brotherhood, so your ‘stories’ are poor evidence for anything but your own prejudice.

And if you can’t formulate your questions unless you consult a “hate site” I’m going to tell you how pathetic your attitude and comments are.

I invite you to get your information from the horses’s mouth....not from prejudiced sources.
If you had been alive in Jesus’ day, who would you have supported?....the ones who were a despised minority...those who told an inconvenient truth, or the ones who wanted everything to stay the same as it was, even though it was horribly corrupted? Did the Jewish people know that their religion was horribly corrupted? Jesus told them so in no uncertain terms. (Matthew 23) Did it change their minds? They clamoured for Jesus’ death. (Matthew 27:25) Can history repeat? The devil makes sure that it does. (1 John 5:19)

Aunty Jane I wouldn’t pay these people any mind, it’s always easy to criticize and make false accusations when you have never been with a fellowship, and I can say first hand as a person who sat down with Jehovah’s Witnesses, that all the accusations being made against Jehovah’s Witnesses are false.

I have never seen the compassion and love like I’ve seen with Jehovah’s Witnesses, I stopped going because like I said I can’t continue with something when I don’t follow the rules and my human imperfections are deeply embedded in me, and since I’ve stopped studying and meeting with a brother, he accepted my reasons for not continuing and no one from the Kingdom Hall has harassed me or continue to put pressure on me, but said he would always be there for me if I ever decided to come back.

Perhaps one day when I overcome my human feelings and imperfections I can continue again.

Much love always my dear sister, may Jehovah always bless you and your loved ones,

Your brother always,
John

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Aunty Jane I wouldn’t pay these people any mind, it’s always easy to criticize and make false accusations when you have never been with a fellowship, and I can say first hand as a person who sat down with Jehovah’s Witnesses, that all the accusations being made against Jehovah’s Witnesses are false.

I have never seen the compassion and love like I’ve seen with Jehovah’s Witnesses, I stopped going because like I said I can’t continue with something when I don’t follow the rules and my human imperfections are deeply embedded in me, and since I’ve stopped studying and meeting with a brother, he accepted my reasons for not continuing and no one from the Kingdom Hall has harassed me or continue to put pressure on me, but said he would always be there for me if I ever decided to come back.

Perhaps one day when I overcome my human feelings and imperfections I can continue again.

Much love always my dear sister, may Jehovah always bless you and your loved ones,

Your brother always,
John

Note: speaking personally, not everyone who disagrees with JW beliefs/culture does so out of ignorance nor experience.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Aunty Jane I wouldn’t pay these people any mind, it’s always easy to criticize and make false accusations when you have never been with a fellowship, and I can say first hand as a person who sat down with Jehovah’s Witnesses, that all the accusations being made against Jehovah’s Witnesses are false.

Thank you.....from experience, rather than reading hateful things on the internet. The twisted half truths that people read are more harmful than the lies....but Jesus knows what that is all about. (John 15:18-21)

I have never seen the compassion and love like I’ve seen with Jehovah’s Witnesses, I stopped going because like I said I can’t continue with something when I don’t follow the rules and my human imperfections are deeply embedded in me, and since I’ve stopped studying and meeting with a brother, he accepted my reasons for not continuing and no one from the Kingdom Hall has harassed me or continue to put pressure on me, but said he would always be there for me if I ever decided to come back.

Perhaps one day when I overcome my human feelings and imperfections I can continue again.

Much love always my dear sister, may Jehovah always bless you and your loved ones,

The door is always open John.....God has never pressured anyone to do anything....he gives us his truth and allows the decisions to be our own. We must pray to make the right ones....as time is getting short. We are so close to the new world now, that we can taste it.....I can see in my mind’s eye what it will mean to have no corrupt humans ruling over us ever again. With the coming of God’s Kingdom, all will return to the way it was meant to be from the beginning.....everlasting life in paradise on earth with productive work to do and wonderment in the exploration and study of all that God has made for our enjoyment....

Revelation 21:2-4...
“I also saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”

We are enduring the “former things” right now and they are causing us immense pain when we see what inept human rulership has caused in the world. I watched a program on homelessness this morning and the streets are full of broken people because human governments are broken and cannot be repaired because they are all ruled by the same evil commander. (1 John 5:19)

Soon now....(Luke 21:25-36)
Much love to you too....

 

[Aunty Jane]

Note: speaking personally, not everyone who disagrees with JW beliefs/culture does so out of ignorance nor experience.

Not many responded to Jesus either, so what was their experience I wonder?
Did they hear him speak? Did they witness his miracles? Even the Pharisees did that, but because it wasn’t what they wanted to see or hear, they had him put to death saying that he was a fake Messiah and that his power was from the devil. It’s all about our attitude....and whether God finds in us an agreeable heart, because no one can come to the Son without an invitation from the Father. (John 6:65)

So, what is new? We are living in a judgment period like the people of Noah’s day.....all were judged on their response to Noah’s ‘preaching of righteousness’ (2 Peter 2:5) but their inability to see past their own behaviours (that were now moulded by wicked spirits in human form producing offspring as violent and as licentious as their evil fathers) prevented them from gaining salvation. (Matthew 24:37-39)
History repeats because people fail to learn the lessons of the past....

 

[JohnPaul]

Note: speaking personally, not everyone who disagrees with JW beliefs/culture does so out of ignorance nor experience.

Jane I’ve heard bad things said about Mormons, do I believe them? No because I can’t pass judgement on something I’ve never been involved in, but I have been involved with Jehovah’s Witnesses and from my experience they are the nicest, most sincerest and selfless people I’ve encountered, so I’m speaking for my involvement with Jehovah’s Witnesses.

I’m sure you as a Mormon have had to deal with the same hateful accusations, so you should know Jane.

 

[Wrangler]

No one is denying the importance and studying scripture- it’s SUPER important.

At the same time though, there are many many different interpretations of scripture.

I am convinced there is only one right way to interpret Scripture, Spirit led. And I believe the Spirit can lead anyone from any denomination, reading any translation.

I am generally anti-KJV but admit that some verses I have committed to memory only in the KJV translation.

It is fine for us enthusiasts to 'question JW' and discuss Scripture and debate doctrine within the body of Christ. However, we must keep in mind it is not our elocution that matters or even that we have a Holy Book, as all religions have a book. As Paul put it in 1 COR 1:17 VOICE

The mission given to me by the Anointed One is not about baptism, but about preaching good news. The point is not to impress others by spinning an eloquent, intellectual argument; that type of rhetorical showboating would only nullify the cross of the Anointed.
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We, God's chosen people, must keep in mind the divine Spirit is humble, humbled of a divine power to save us from sin and death through the blood sacrifice of our Lord, and resist temptation to make an idol of our doctrines and our favorite translation.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Jane I’ve heard bad things said about Mormons, do I believe them? No because I can’t pass judgement on something I’ve never been involved in, but I have been involved with Jehovah’s Witnesses and from my experience they are the nicest, most sincerest and selfless people I’ve encountered, so I’m speaking for my involvement with Jehovah’s Witnesses.

I’m sure you as a Mormon have had to deal with the same hateful accusations, so you should know Jane.

I totally acknowledge that there is a lot of bashing people do out of pure ignorance. I’m a HUGE proponent of seeing people as they are and spending the time to know and love them.

But it is also flavor to assume that just because a person disagrees that they are ignorant. My passionate disagreement with JW beleifs and culture is after months + of spending time in Kingdom Halls and talking with JW persons. It was an very negative experience.

 

[JohnPaul]

I totally acknowledge that there is a lot of bashing people do out of pure ignorance. I’m a HUGE proponent of seeing people as they are and spending the time to know and love them.

But it is also flavor to assume that just because a person disagrees that they are ignorant. My passionate disagreement with JW beleifs and culture is after months + of spending time in Kingdom Halls and talking with JW persons. It was an very negative experience.

In what way was it negative?

 

[Aunty Jane]

I totally acknowledge that there is a lot of bashing people do out of pure ignorance. I’m a HUGE proponent of seeing people as they are and spending the time to know and love them.

But it is also flavor to assume that just because a person disagrees that they are ignorant. My passionate disagreement with JW beleifs and culture is after months + of spending time in Kingdom Halls and talking with JW persons. It was an very negative experience.

I have spent many hours myself, conversing with Mormons in my home, when I was searching for the truth.....I talked at length with them on the street, and even at my Kingdom Hall when two young missionary brothers came to our meeting and stayed to ask questions. Why they send children is beyond me....I never found them equipped to do anything but what they had been told to do. None could answer even simple questions about God's Kingdom...the very thing Jesus sent his disciples out to preach. (Matthew 24:14)

Those young people are sent overseas for a two year stint and that is it.....can I ask why? Our preaching was to continue for the rest of our lives, not just for two years in a foreign country. We are to preach to our neighbors as Jesus and his disciples did.....to those who already believed in God according to the corrupt Jewish traditions that had been handed on for centuries, as well as those Gentiles who don't know him at all.

I am sorry that your experience was negative...but so was mine with your brotherhood...so what does that mean?
We each found nothing in the other's belief system that rang true. Tell me who is right?
God is....and it is he who "draws" right hearted people to HIS truth, not any man's. (John 6:44) Those who are not "drawn" by God are left to their own delusions....(2 Thessalonians 2:9-12)
We will all get to find out when our judge arrives to separate the "sheep" from the "goats", but by then, there will be no way to change direction.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

In what way was it negative?

I cannot fully answer that and still be polite.

To keep things very short: I was treated like a piece of meat, my request to not be proselytized at were violated countless times, listened to tons of stereotypes against all non-JW, manipulation tactics, and death threats ("stay on the boat", "don't run off a cliff", etc). Questions I asked were not answered nor did they say "I don't know" (which is 100% legitimate), but instead gave me scripted answers about a different topic. It was the only fully negative and unloving experience I've ever had studying a faith -- and I've studied dozens Christian and non.

 

[Aunty Jane]

I cannot fully answer that and still be polite.

At least I tried to be,

....but I personally found Mormons to be sincere, but led out of scripture by a man who claimed to be a prophet.....was his claim ever verified? He gave his followers a new Bible...one that contained so much of the KJV, word for word, that it bordered on plagiarism....and the rest so far out of scripture that it is as unverifiable as the prophet who invented it.

To keep things very short: I was treated like a piece of meat, my request to not be proselytized at were violated countless times, listened to tons of stereotypes against all non-JW, manipulation tactics, and death threats ("stay on the boat", "don't run off a cliff", etc). Questions I asked were not answered nor did they say "I don't know" (which is 100% legitimate), but instead gave me scripted answers about a different topic. It was the only fully negative and unloving experience I've ever had studying a faith -- and I've studied dozens Christian and non.

Not a drama queen or anything...? Good grief!

"A piece of meat"???

Now that is just plain funny....

What were you looking for? Why were you even there? Look at your little list there...."don't do this...don't do that. If you don't answer my questions the way I want them answered I am going to walk out of here in a huff....and tell everyone what horrible people you are....."

Telling a Christian not to preach is like telling them not to breathe.

You weren't interested in the truth, you were just there judging by your own standards.
Thankfully not everyone is as judgmental as you appear to be.

I know that there is a reason why you choose to remain a Mormon....God knows and that is all that matters.

 

[JohnPaul]

I cannot fully answer that and still be polite.

To keep things very short: I was treated like a piece of meat, my request to not be proselytized at were violated countless times, listened to tons of stereotypes against all non-JW, manipulation tactics, and death threats ("stay on the boat", "don't run off a cliff", etc). Questions I asked were not answered nor did they say "I don't know" (which is 100% legitimate), but instead gave me scripted answers about a different topic. It was the only fully negative and unloving experience I've ever had studying a faith -- and I've studied dozens Christian and non.

I have never had that experience once the whole time I spent at the Kingdom Hall, and any question I asked was answered, every single one.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

I have never had that experience once the whole time I spent at the Kingdom Hall, and any question I asked was answered, every single one.

People have different experiences. My point is that not all disagreement is due to ignorance. I spent months at Kindgom Halls / with JW persons, earnestly trying to see goodness. I spend time studying others faiths so I can better understand and love my neighbors. And it almost always is a very positive journey.

 

[JohnPaul]

People have different experiences. My point is that not all disagreement is due to ignorance. I spent months at Kindgom Halls / with JW persons, earnestly trying to see goodness. I spend time studying others faiths so I can better understand and love my neighbors. And it almost always is a very positive journey.

You are right Jane, people do have different experiences.

 

[DavidB]

I have never had that experience once the whole time I spent at the Kingdom Hall, and any question I asked was answered, every single one.

It was the only fully negative and unloving experience I've ever had studying a faith -- and I've studied dozens Christian and non.

Aren’t you glad Jane was restrained by her politeness?

 

[JohnPaul]

Aren’t you glad Jane was retrained by her politeness?

Yes very glad, no need to be impolite to others, Jane is a nice lady.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Aren’t you glad Jane was retrained by her politeness?

Yes very glad, no need to be impolite to others, Jane is a nice lady.

I strive to be polite and loving to everyone, including those I disagree with. That's what my Lord & Savior asks of me. :)

 

[DavidB]

Yes very glad, no need to be impolite to others, Jane is a nice lady.

I corrected my comment from retrained to restrained.

 

[Webers_Home]

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Jacob was given the surname of "Israel" (Gen 32:28) translated from a
Hebrew word that means "He shall rule as God" which doesn't mean rule like
God; but rather; in God's stead.

Well, Jacob ruled neither as God nor in God's stead; and in point of fact,
Jacob didn't even rule his own family very well; it practically ruled him.
However; I'm pretty sure we're safe to take Jacob's surname as a prophecy
looking ahead to Jacob's posterity.

According to John 1:1-14, Jesus was born a composite of human and divine.
However, the human and the divine aren't one, they are distinctly individual
aspects of Jesus' existence, i.e. the one is a spirit being and the other a
material being. (1Cor 15:45)

Well, we can allow the divine to rule as God and in God's stead, but how are
we to allow the human that level of power and prestige?

Back in 2014, Michelle J. Howard became the first-ever female four-star
Admiral in the U.S. Navy. Was Ms. Howard born a four-star Admiral? No, she
was promoted to that rank.

When Jesus ascended to Heaven forty days after his resurrection, he
underwent the ceremony depicted by Daniel 7:13-14 which established him
as the cosmos' supreme ruler. At that moment, he was in a position to rule
in God's stead, but it wasn't till his promotion depicted by Phil 2:7-11 that
he became authorized to rule as God.

• Phil 2:9 . . God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the
name that is above every other name

Note that Jesus wasn't given a name above every other name. Rather, he
was given "the" name. What name might that be? Well; it's Jehovah; there
is none higher. So then; Jesus has the God-given right to use God's name
for his own name, viz: Jesus has the right to be addressed as Jehovah, and
the right to be respected and obeyed as Jehovah. Refusal to acknowledge
Jesus as Jehovah is a refusal to acknowledge the glory of God. (Phil 2:10
11) In other words; a shameful disrespect for God's name. (cf. Eph 1:15-21)

• Rev 22:16 . . I am the bright morning star.

By comparing Isa 14:12, Luke 10:18, and Rev 2:26-28; it can be readily
deduced that the Bible's morning stars are persons wielding political power.
But none are as radiant as Christ because he's the signet promised to
Zerubbabel by Hag 2:21-23. In other words: Jesus wields the power of God
so much so that he is in the position of God as God.

• Rev 1:8 . . I am the Alpha and the Omega-- says the Lord God --who is,
and who was, and who is to come: the Almighty
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[JohnPaul]

I strive to be polite and loving to everyone, including those I disagree with. That's what my Lord & Savior asks of me. :)

And you are Jane.