Again: at Christmas I celebrate Christ’s birth. We read the nativity story, act it out, and sing Christmas hymns (“Silent Night” etc).
None of that is pagan. Holidays are what you make them.
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None of that is pagan. Holidays are what you make them.
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Aunty Jane
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We can all decide our health choices according to our conscience and personal preferences. There are whole hospitals dedicated to non-blood management of their patients and the management of these hospitals have nothing to do with JW’s except that in treating Witness patients, they found better ways to manage a range of medical conditions and surgeries with stunning results.....avoiding blood transfusion....now considered by those in that field to be a dangerous procedure.
Again, if you watch the Australian Government video (not put out by JW’s) you will see what happens when foreign blood is infused into a patient. You will hear experts in their field warning of the dangers of donated blood.
You are receiving someone else’s DNA.....people need to think about the implications of that as science progresses in their understanding of this unique fluid, used in the Bible to represent “life” itself.
The fact that my sister chose not to break God’s law is none of anyone’s business but herself and her family. No one can say that she would have survived if she had received blood, and we are not privy to her medical records so we have no business passing judgment on a media story that was designed to feed the hateful bias against us....and sell newspapers.
We are the most peaceful people on the planet...we will not harm even an enemy. We will obey our government’s laws unless they try to prevent us carrying out our Christian obligation to preach and to meet regularly for worship. No man can tell us to break God’s laws and no human is our judge at the end of the day. We will all face that same judge soon enough.
As for your comment on being a war game champion.....do you love the violence?
Since computer games often concentrate on the most graphic portrayal of things in the real world transferred over to the virtual world, Psalm 11:5 tells us something about loving violence...
“The Lord tests the righteous and the wicked, And His soul hates one who loves violence.” (Psalm 11:5 - NASB)
We see so many children desensitised to violence by feeding on a steady diet of violence and bloodshed in the virtual world. It often translates over into the school yard.....posted on social media as a bragging right.....so sick! The line between reality and fantasy is becoming blurred for these corrupted young minds.
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Webers_Home
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Some of the Watchtower Society's ethics rub people the wrong way. For
example they don't celebrate birthdays, observe Christmas, participate in
Halloween, serve in the military, nor allow blood transfusions.
Their feelings about special days are protected by the fourteenth chapter of
Romans so it would be extremely unchristian to criticize them on that front.
Their feelings about blood transfusions appear tenable from the passages
below.
• Gen 9:3-4 . . Every moving animal that is alive may serve as food for you.
As in the case of green vegetation, I do give it all to you. Only flesh with its
soul— its blood —you must not eat.
• Lev 7:26-27 . .You must not eat any blood in any places where you dwell,
whether that of fowl or that of beast. Any soul who eats any blood, that soul
must be cut off from his people.
• Lev 17:10-14 . . As for any man of the house of Israel or some alien resident
who is residing as an alien in your midst who eats any sort of blood, I shall
certainly set my face against the soul that is eating the blood, and I shall
indeed cut him off from among his people.
• Acts 15:19-20 . . Hence my decision is not to trouble those from the nations
who are turning to God, but to write them to abstain . . from blood.
The Society construes those passages to imply that transfusing blood is all
the same as using it for food.
Rather than get into a semantic quarrel with the Society over its
interpretation of those passages; I suggest another tact. And our purpose is
not to win a debate; only to offer a second opinion.
The Jews' sabbath law is very narrow. In point of fact, the covenant that
Moses' people agreed upon with God imposes capital punishment for sabbath
violators. (Ex 31:14-15)
Now, that is very interesting because Jesus broke their sabbath on a number
of occasions, and when doing so based his actions upon the principle that
human life, safety, and welfare trump strict observance of religious law.
One of the best illustrations I've seen of a die-hard legalist was a cartoon
showing a man behind the wheel of his car stopped at a red light while huge
landslide boulders are within seconds of crushing to death him, his family,
and the family dog. While his wife and children shriek and bellow in mortal
panic, the legalist calmly points out that he can't move the car until the light
turns green.
Legalists typically refuse to accept the possibility of extenuating
circumstances, which Webster's defines as: to lessen, or to try to lessen, the
seriousness or extent of by making partial excuses; viz: mitigate.
Although it's illegal to run red lights, those boulders rumbling down the hill
to crush the man's family to death unless he moves the car, are an
acceptable excuse to go before the light turns green. In those kinds of
cases, human life, safety, and welfare trump strict conformity to the law.
Compare Ex 1:15-21 where Jewish midwives lied through their teeth in order
to save the lives of little Jewish boys. Did God punish the midwives for the
sin of dishonesty? No, on the contrary; He overlooked it and instead
rewarded the midwives' actions with families of their own. In point of fact,
their actions were adjudged as fearing the true God. (Ex 1:21)
Should someone reading this section chance to discuss blood transfusions
with a JW from Christ's sabbath perspective; I urge them to go about it with
the utmost in diplomacy, care, and civility because this is a hot-button issue.
Should your JW audience come to the realization that they've made a
monstrous mistake, they will be overwhelmed with guilt, disillusion, and
humiliation; not to mention fear of the organizational tsunami that'll come
their way should they dare to question the Society's stance on blood
transfusions.
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Some of the Watchtower Society's ethics rub people the wrong way. For
example they don't celebrate birthdays, observe Christmas, participate in
Halloween, serve in the military, nor allow blood transfusions.
Their feelings about special days are protected by the fourteenth chapter of
Romans so it would be extremely unchristian to criticize them on that front.
Their feelings about blood transfusions appear tenable from the passages
below.
• Gen 9:3-4 . . Every moving animal that is alive may serve as food for you.
As in the case of green vegetation, I do give it all to you. Only flesh with its
soul— its blood —you must not eat.
• Lev 7:26-27 . .You must not eat any blood in any places where you dwell,
whether that of fowl or that of beast. Any soul who eats any blood, that soul
must be cut off from his people.
• Lev 17:10-14 . . As for any man of the house of Israel or some alien resident
who is residing as an alien in your midst who eats any sort of blood, I shall
certainly set my face against the soul that is eating the blood, and I shall
indeed cut him off from among his people.
• Acts 15:19-20 . . Hence my decision is not to trouble those from the nations
who are turning to God, but to write them to abstain . . from blood.
The Society construes those passages to imply that transfusing blood is all
the same as using it for food.
Rather than get into a semantic quarrel with the Society over its
interpretation of those passages; I suggest another tact. And our purpose is
not to win a debate; only to offer a second opinion.
The Jews' sabbath law is very narrow. In point of fact, the covenant that
Moses' people agreed upon with God imposes capital punishment for sabbath
violators. (Ex 31:14-15)
Now, that is very interesting because Jesus broke their sabbath on a number
of occasions, and when doing so based his actions upon the principle that
human life, safety, and welfare trump strict observance of religious law.
One of the best illustrations I've seen of a die-hard legalist was a cartoon
showing a man behind the wheel of his car stopped at a red light while huge
landslide boulders are within seconds of crushing to death him, his family,
and the family dog. While his wife and children shriek and bellow in mortal
panic, the legalist calmly points out that he can't move the car until the light
turns green.
Legalists typically refuse to accept the possibility of extenuating
circumstances, which Webster's defines as: to lessen, or to try to lessen, the
seriousness or extent of by making partial excuses; viz: mitigate.
Although it's illegal to run red lights, those boulders rumbling down the hill
to crush the man's family to death unless he moves the car, are an
acceptable excuse to go before the light turns green. In those kinds of
cases, human life, safety, and welfare trump strict conformity to the law.
Compare Ex 1:15-21 where Jewish midwives lied through their teeth in order
to save the lives of little Jewish boys. Did God punish the midwives for the
sin of dishonesty? No, on the contrary; He overlooked it and instead
rewarded the midwives' actions with families of their own. In point of fact,
their actions were adjudged as fearing the true God. (Ex 1:21)
Should someone reading this section chance to discuss blood transfusions
with a JW from Christ's sabbath perspective; I urge them to go about it with
the utmost in diplomacy, care, and civility because this is a hot-button issue.
Should your JW audience come to the realization that they've made a
monstrous mistake, they will be overwhelmed with guilt, disillusion, and
humiliation; not to mention fear of the organizational tsunami that'll come
their way should they dare to question the Society's stance on blood
transfusions.
_
Aunty Jane
Well-Known Member
“Holy days” should not have pagan roots. Remember, God was there when the pagans celebrated their festivals.....changing the name doesn’t make it OK......if he did not approve of his ancient people adopting pagan practices and festivals, what makes us think that our justifying doing so would merit his approval?
Is there a reason why every event deemed important and celebrated by Christendom has pagan origins?.....I think I know, but people will go on justifying behaviours that offend the Creator. Having been raised with those celebrations, once I discovered their origins, I refused to participate in any of them again. We are told to hate what God hates....so do we?
Dropship
Well-Known Member
1- Transfusions have been routinely used to save lives for over 100 years, notably in the two world wars, and the vast majority of patients recovered with no side-effects..:)
2- JW's sit out wars without getting involved, but if everybody did that, half the world would be ruled by the nazis by now, and the other half by the japs..:)
3- Chess is a wargame and has been around for centuries, people play it because it's FUN. Same with me and computer wargames, it's FUN..:)
As a great prophet once said-
"This is this"
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Re meat, if livestock disease was going around in a specific time window, of course God had to warn people to lay off it for a while, but at other times it was okay to tuck in..:)
"Eat whatever is sold in the meat market, asking no questions for conscience sake; for “the earth is the Lord’s, and all its fullness” (1 Corinthians 10:25-26)
"And one of the Pharisees asked Jesus if he would eat with him. And he went into the Pharisee's house, and sat down to meat" (Luke 7:36)
"Do not eat meat raw or cooked in water, but roast it over the fire-head, legs and inner parts" (Exodus 12:9)
"Moses then said to Aaron and his sons, "Cook the meat at the entrance to the Tent of Meeting and eat it there with the bread from the basket of ordination offerings, as I commanded." (Leviticus 8:31)
"You may slaughter your animals in any of your towns and eat as much of the meat as you want, as if it were gazelle or deer, according to the blessing the Lord your God gives you" (Deuteronomy 12:15)
"He took his yoke of oxen and slaughtered them. He burned the plowing equipment to cook the meat and gave it to the people, and they ate.." (1 Kings 19:21)
"On this mountain the Lord Almighty will prepare a feast of rich food for all peoples, a banquet of aged wine, the best of meats and the finest of wines" (Isaiah 25:6)
"Eat whatever is sold in the meat market, asking no questions for conscience sake; for “the earth is the Lord’s, and all its fullness” (1 Corinthians 10:25-26)
"And one of the Pharisees asked Jesus if he would eat with him. And he went into the Pharisee's house, and sat down to meat" (Luke 7:36)
"Do not eat meat raw or cooked in water, but roast it over the fire-head, legs and inner parts" (Exodus 12:9)
"Moses then said to Aaron and his sons, "Cook the meat at the entrance to the Tent of Meeting and eat it there with the bread from the basket of ordination offerings, as I commanded." (Leviticus 8:31)
"You may slaughter your animals in any of your towns and eat as much of the meat as you want, as if it were gazelle or deer, according to the blessing the Lord your God gives you" (Deuteronomy 12:15)
"He took his yoke of oxen and slaughtered them. He burned the plowing equipment to cook the meat and gave it to the people, and they ate.." (1 Kings 19:21)
"On this mountain the Lord Almighty will prepare a feast of rich food for all peoples, a banquet of aged wine, the best of meats and the finest of wines" (Isaiah 25:6)
Aunty Jane
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I have no idea where you thought you were going with this.....there is no prohibition on eating meat....the only thing we cannot eat is blood.
God repeated his prohibition on consuming blood three times in three different Bible eras.....initially to Noah when permission was first given to consume the flesh of animals, as long as they were properly bled. This was after the flood.
Genesis 9:3-4...
"Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I have given everything to you, as I gave the green plant. 4 But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood."
The Scriptures reveal that God considers blood to be sacred, and his servants should treat it accordingly. In line with this, God told the Israelites that they could do only two things with blood. First, God said: “I myself have put it upon the altar [of sacrifice] for you to make atonement for your souls.” Secondly, if an animal’s blood was not used on the altar, the Israelite was to pour it out on the ground, thus acknowledging that life is from God and that the blood representing life was not being diverted for some personal use.
"Only you shall not eat the blood; you are to pour it out on the ground like water." (Leviticus 17:11-14; Deuteronomy 12:16)
The next repeat of his command was included in the Law God gave to Israel...
Leviticus 17:10....
"And anyone from the house of Israel, or from the strangers who reside among them, who eats any blood, I will set My face against that person who eats the blood, and will cut him off from among his people."
Being "cut off" meant the death penalty.
And again God repeated his law for Christians....
Acts 15:28-29....
"For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay upon you no greater burden than these essentials: 29 that you abstain from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from acts of sexual immorality; if you keep yourselves free from such things, you will do well."
Among the "essential things" that Christians had to keep, was abstinence from blood. Even the flesh of a strangled animal (and hence not properly bled) was prohibited.
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Ha a troll with a sense of humour.
I'm not a JW or in this debate just calling it as I see it.
Webers_Home
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It's my personal opinion that, unless somebody has undergone specialized
training, it's not a good idea to attempt to evangelize a Watchtower
missionary as I can just about guarantee that experienced JWs are better at
evangelizing us than we are them. If you think that your own gospel
message is some sort of silver bullet; you'll find out right quick that their
silver bullets are quite likely bigger than yours.
Should it be decided to go head to head with Watchtower Society
missionaries, here's some useful tips passed on to me by a former Jehovah's
Witness who was with the Society nigh unto three decades.
1» It's best to use their Bibles. So round up a copy of the Watchtower
Society's New World Translation of the Bible and its Kingdom Interlinear
Translation of the Greek Scriptures. Sometimes these are available in thrift
stores like Good Will and Salvation Army. Both are available online from
amazon dot com.
For some useful insights into a variety of Jehovah's Witness teachings, the
little brown book titled Reasoning From The Scriptures is a must-have. It's
available online too. Be sure to get the Watchtower Society's version instead
of another book by the same name published by a different agency.
2» Do not let these people get personal with you. You must never ever
assume they are your friends because first and foremost their primary
interest is in making you a life-long slave to the Watchtower Society. You
can be courteous and you can be civil, but it's highly recommended that you
not let them into your life.
3» Do not accept their literature. They will want to come back later and
discuss it with you; thus taking control of both your thinking and the
meeting.
4» Don't let them get too far into their spiel, but at the first opportunity
begin introducing your own questions; thus denying them control of the
conversation.
5» Do not debate. You're not a salesman pushing a product, nor a recruiter,
nor a candidate running for an elected office: you're not on a quota, you're
not out to win anything, nor are you required to win— you're a herald; viz: a
messenger. Your information is best presented as a second opinion for them
to think about; and that's all.
The goal is to show missionaries that the Society's isn't the only expert
opinion out there. In other words: the Watchtower Society's interpretations
aren't the only option; nor are theirs eo ipso the right interpretations just
because the Governing Body says so.
6» Avoid getting embroiled in trivial issues like birthdays, Easter, Christmas,
Christmas trees, the design and construction of the wooden device upon
which Christ was crucified, saluting the flag, service in the military, and that
sort of thing. There are much bigger fish to fry than those.
The No.1 issue on their minds when they come to your door will likely be
Jehovah's kingdom, in particular, the portion of His kingdom to be on Earth.
7» Make them listen and pay attention to what you say even if you have to
repeat yourself to do it, or clap your hands, snap your fingers, or raise your
voice. Do not let them digress, change the subject, go off on a tangent, nor
get distracted and/or turn their attention elsewhere while you're speaking. If
they start digging through their bags, shuffling papers, tinkering with their
tablets, or looking up a reference; call them on it because there is no use in
speaking when their minds are elsewhere engaged.
8» Do not permit them to interrupt you and/or talk out of turn. Politely, but
firmly, insist that they hold their peace until you've said your piece.
9» Do not permit them to evade and/or circumvent difficult questions. They
sometimes say that they will have to confer with someone more
knowledgeable. When they do that, the meeting is over. Thank them politely
for their time and then ask them to leave and come back when they have
the information. Do not let them stay and start a new topic of their own.
10» Do not react and/or respond to ad hominems, which can be defined as a
logical fallacy in which an argument is rebutted by attacking the character,
motive, qualifications and/or other attribute of the person making the
argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking
the substance of the argument itself.
They will most likely challenge your qualifications; for example your training
in the Greek and Hebrew languages. But don't let them get away with
discrediting you as a means to invalidating your information.
11» These people undergo hour upon hour of training to refute standard
Christian doctrines, so it's very important to show them the Bible not only in
ways they've already seen, but especially in ways they've never imagined.
_
It's my personal opinion that, unless somebody has undergone specialized
training, it's not a good idea to attempt to evangelize a Watchtower
missionary as I can just about guarantee that experienced JWs are better at
evangelizing us than we are them. If you think that your own gospel
message is some sort of silver bullet; you'll find out right quick that their
silver bullets are quite likely bigger than yours.
Should it be decided to go head to head with Watchtower Society
missionaries, here's some useful tips passed on to me by a former Jehovah's
Witness who was with the Society nigh unto three decades.
1» It's best to use their Bibles. So round up a copy of the Watchtower
Society's New World Translation of the Bible and its Kingdom Interlinear
Translation of the Greek Scriptures. Sometimes these are available in thrift
stores like Good Will and Salvation Army. Both are available online from
amazon dot com.
For some useful insights into a variety of Jehovah's Witness teachings, the
little brown book titled Reasoning From The Scriptures is a must-have. It's
available online too. Be sure to get the Watchtower Society's version instead
of another book by the same name published by a different agency.
2» Do not let these people get personal with you. You must never ever
assume they are your friends because first and foremost their primary
interest is in making you a life-long slave to the Watchtower Society. You
can be courteous and you can be civil, but it's highly recommended that you
not let them into your life.
3» Do not accept their literature. They will want to come back later and
discuss it with you; thus taking control of both your thinking and the
meeting.
4» Don't let them get too far into their spiel, but at the first opportunity
begin introducing your own questions; thus denying them control of the
conversation.
5» Do not debate. You're not a salesman pushing a product, nor a recruiter,
nor a candidate running for an elected office: you're not on a quota, you're
not out to win anything, nor are you required to win— you're a herald; viz: a
messenger. Your information is best presented as a second opinion for them
to think about; and that's all.
The goal is to show missionaries that the Society's isn't the only expert
opinion out there. In other words: the Watchtower Society's interpretations
aren't the only option; nor are theirs eo ipso the right interpretations just
because the Governing Body says so.
6» Avoid getting embroiled in trivial issues like birthdays, Easter, Christmas,
Christmas trees, the design and construction of the wooden device upon
which Christ was crucified, saluting the flag, service in the military, and that
sort of thing. There are much bigger fish to fry than those.
The No.1 issue on their minds when they come to your door will likely be
Jehovah's kingdom, in particular, the portion of His kingdom to be on Earth.
7» Make them listen and pay attention to what you say even if you have to
repeat yourself to do it, or clap your hands, snap your fingers, or raise your
voice. Do not let them digress, change the subject, go off on a tangent, nor
get distracted and/or turn their attention elsewhere while you're speaking. If
they start digging through their bags, shuffling papers, tinkering with their
tablets, or looking up a reference; call them on it because there is no use in
speaking when their minds are elsewhere engaged.
8» Do not permit them to interrupt you and/or talk out of turn. Politely, but
firmly, insist that they hold their peace until you've said your piece.
9» Do not permit them to evade and/or circumvent difficult questions. They
sometimes say that they will have to confer with someone more
knowledgeable. When they do that, the meeting is over. Thank them politely
for their time and then ask them to leave and come back when they have
the information. Do not let them stay and start a new topic of their own.
10» Do not react and/or respond to ad hominems, which can be defined as a
logical fallacy in which an argument is rebutted by attacking the character,
motive, qualifications and/or other attribute of the person making the
argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking
the substance of the argument itself.
They will most likely challenge your qualifications; for example your training
in the Greek and Hebrew languages. But don't let them get away with
discrediting you as a means to invalidating your information.
11» These people undergo hour upon hour of training to refute standard
Christian doctrines, so it's very important to show them the Bible not only in
ways they've already seen, but especially in ways they've never imagined.
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Wrangler
Well-Known Member
I confess I was surprised to see this one. Many here seem to have sharp criticism of the JW translation. Can you elaborate on why this is a helpful tip in no 'making you a life-long slave to the Watchtower Society?'
Dropship
Well-Known Member
A senior JW once told me that JW's won't eat meat because it's got blood in it, so who am I to believe, you or him?..;)
Aunty Jane
Well-Known Member
Are you serious? A “senior JW” once told you something that we do not believe or teach?
Generally speaking, we are left to decide for ourselves what we will eat and what we will not. Are there vegetarians and vegans among us...absolutely! But it’s a personal decision. There is no biblical injunction against eating meat as I showed you.....you really are among those who just want to shoot us down over nothing.
This vendetta against us is actually fulfilling scripture because Jesus told us to expect this kind of opposition (John 15:18-21)....poisoned minds are dangerous. The Pharisees left no stone unturned in presenting Jesus as an evil trickster and a fraud, getting his power from the devil....and to be resisted at all costs because he was making them look bad, and he was exposing their hypocrisy....so there was no way that they would let him get away with that if they could spread their poison about him. Look what happened....the majority were convinced to the point of clamouring for his death. (Matthew 27:25) The hatred against him was manufactured.....nothing they said about him was true.
Be careful who you listen to. Nothing is as it appears on the face of it. Satan will keep spreading his deceptions.
“The good news of God’s kingdom” was to be “preached in all the inhabited earth” before Jesus was to bring the curtain down on satan’s world system of human governance. (Matthew 24:14) Who among Christendom’s churches are fulfilling “the great commission” the way Jesus said it should be done? (Matthew 10:11-14) This is a work that all Christians were to participate in. (Matthew 28:19-20) Who else has brought this message to the people consistently over many decades?
When Jesus comes as judge, we will all be found on one side or the other.....by our choices we show God whose side we have taken.
History is repeating because no one is noticing.....Christendom is a mirror image of first century Judaism. They are all about getting backsides on seats because it means money in their pockets. They are “friends with the world”, (James 4:4) celebrating renamed pagan festivals, (2 Corinthians 6:14-18) and in all the important aspects of what Jesus taught, they are failing. (Luke 6:46) Because of supporting the wars of their respective governments, they have blood on their hands. (Isaiah 1:15)
Calling yourself a “Christian” does not make you one. (Matthew 7:21-23)
Just as back then, “few” are going to be found on “the cramped road to life”. (Matthew 7:13-14)
It’s time to wake up....
Aunty Jane
Well-Known Member
Don’t look now but we are all “slaves” to someone....it’s just the illusion of freedom that is promoted in satan’s world.
We will defend the NWT anywhere and at any time. My own studies, even using Strongs Concordance have proven that the NWT is more accurate and true to the original languages.
It’s ironic that we are accused of bias in our translation, but these people have no idea how much bias there is in their chosen English versions.
Having been on both sides of this issue I can see clearly who I choose to believe and why.
“There is nothing new under the sun”, Solomon wrote....and he was so right. It’s an old battle that originated in Eden and we are about to witness the conclusion and successful outcome of it. It’s an amazing time to be alive.....but we have to be on the side of the winner...not the loser, who masquerades as something he is not. (2 Corinthians 11:13-15)
Dropship
Well-Known Member
In that case the elderly lifelong JW who told me he won't meat must have been speaking for just himself, i'll try to contact him again and ask him to clarify.
Anyway, meat has got blood in it so why don't all JW's avoid it?
JohnPaul
Soldier of Jehovah and Christ
Aunty Jane
Well-Known Member
The method of bleeding a slaughtered animal was clearly stated in God’s law. The animal was hung in such a way as to allow gravity to drain the blood, which was to be used in only two ways....in a sacrificial animal, as atonement for the sin inherited from Adam, which was before the blood of Christ paid for sin permanently.....or to pour it on the ground, symbolically returning its life to God with gratitude for the provision.
We have no reason to believe that meat which is properly bled contains blood such as an unbled animal would. There is a muscle fluid in meat which we call the ‘juice’. If meat is not ‘juicy’ we would not want to eat it. An unbled animal is not good eating, so there is no real reason to consume it. Most of the moisture in flesh is water, but blood is a most miraculous fluid and used in the Bible to symbolise life itself. It’s oxygen carrying capacity and it’s antibodies created by our immune system are truly marvels of creation. God has the right to tell us how to use his creation.
Aunty Jane
Well-Known Member
I like a medium steak personally. Not over cooked but not underdone either.
I have no personal issue with anyone who makes their own choices regarding the food they consume.
It’s their business....not mine.
