Question for Amill's only

[Marty fox]

They don't.


I don't understand what you're saying here. Are you thinking that verse 5 is saying that the rest of the dead come to life immediately upon the end of the thousand years? If so, that is not what it means. Obviously, the rest of the dead are resurrected and judged not only after the thousand years end, but also after Satan's little season that follows the thousand years ends. It just doesn't specifically mention that they are resurrected after Satan's little season in verse 5, but that can be easily implied since they are obviously not judged until after Satan's little season is over.

What i'm saying in point form is that the binding ends is when satan is released for his little season

The reigning ends after satan little season just like the verse says

 

[WPM]

Your 'fruit' has already shown you DO NOT keep God's Word, but work against it. Will you LIE again and say the 1 Peter 3:18-20 and 1 Peter 4:6 is NOT about Jesus preaching The Gospel to the 'dead'?

And I can save time by debunking your post #129 also, because nowhere does that Scripture even hint... at The Gospel being preached them while alive!

You really must not be too bright, because those of 1 Peter 3 that Jesus preached to were those who died BACK TO THE FLOOD OF NOAH'S DAY. So HOW is The Gospel going to be preached to them BY JESUS back then in Noah's times??? And those of 1 Peter 4:6 is simply a continuation of the subject of Jesus preaching to those "spirits in prison". Hey, and there's even yet another clue they were dead when Jesus preached to them, because that idea "spirits in prison" isn't about flesh men locked in earthly prisons, it's about the 'spirits' of the dead locked in Satan's prison in the heavenly dimension! And the Isaiah 42:7 Scripture was that very event prophesied that Jesus would preach to the dead, and lead those who believed out of that prison house! So you are completely Biblically illiterate about that too!

With your mind like a 'tare', you're not worth the time. Welcome to my IGNORE LIST.

Why would anyone take you seriously when you talk such nonsense?

 

[Marty fox]

You are wrong on all that but that doesn't matter. We are talking about when the little season starts. You said, "at the end part of the millennial age not after it." but that is wrong according to the text.

Unless There is a binding and a separate reigning

 

[ewq1938]

Unless There is a binding and a separate reigning

The only thing that matters is what the text says, and it says the thousand years ends and then satan has this little season. There is nothing about another thousand years ending after the little season. There isn't even any mention of a reign ending after the little season.

 

[Marty fox]

The only thing that matters is what the text says, and it says the thousand years ends and then satan has this little season. There is nothing about another thousand years ending after the little season. There isn't even any mention of a reign ending after the little season.

Verse 5 says so

 

[ewq1938]

Verse 5 says so

No, it doesn't.

 

[Marty fox]

No, it doesn't.

5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.

So who is the rest of the dead?

When do they come to life?

When does revelation chapter 20 show the rest of the dead come to life?

 

[Marty fox]

They don't.


I don't understand what you're saying here. Are you thinking that verse 5 is saying that the rest of the dead come to life immediately upon the end of the thousand years? If so, that is not what it means. Obviously, the rest of the dead are resurrected and judged not only after the thousand years end, but also after Satan's little season that follows the thousand years ends. It just doesn't specifically mention that they are resurrected after Satan's little season in verse 5, but that can be easily implied since they are obviously not judged until after Satan's little season is over.

See post #147

 

[ewq1938]

5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.

So who is the rest of the dead?

When do they come to life?

When does revelation chapter 20 show the rest of the dead come to life?

There is nothing there about a second thousand years ending after the little season is there? You claim it but nothing there to support such silly theology. No end of a rule there either.

 

[Marty fox]

There is nothing there about a second thousand years ending after the little season is there? You claim it but nothing there to support such silly theology. No end of a rule there either.

Why didn’t you answer the questions?

It mentions when the thousand years ends which is a different time to when satan and released

 

[ewq1938]

Why didn’t you answer the questions?

It mentions when the thousand years ends which is a different time to when satan and released

No, there isn't any "different time" mentioned. One period lasting a thousand years is mentioned and it ends before the little season starts.

 

[Marty fox]

No, there isn't any "different time" mentioned. One period lasting a thousand years is mentioned and it ends before the little season starts.

If so then answer the questions about verse 5

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.

So who is the rest of the dead?

Unbelievers. Those who do not have part in the first resurrection (Christ's resurrection) and whose names are not written in the book of life.

When do they come to life?

After the thousand years and after Satan's little season. They then face judgment after being resurrected.

When does revelation chapter 20 show the rest of the dead come to life?

It doesn't specifically reference their resurrection, but they are the dead that appear before the great white throne and are then judged and cast into the lake of fire.

What are your answers to these questions, Marty?

 

[Marty fox]

Unbelievers. Those who do not have part in the first resurrection (Christ's resurrection) and whose names are not written in the book of life.


After the thousand years and after Satan's little season. They then face judgment after being resurrected.


It doesn't specifically reference their resurrection, but they are the dead that appear before the great white throne and are then judged and cast into the lake of fire.

What are your answers to these questions, Marty?

Exactly my answers are the exact same as yours.

So you stated that the thousand years ends when satan is released for his little season and then you stated that the thousand years ends after satans release, thus there has to be two separate thousand years that end at different times.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Exactly my answers are the exact same as yours.

So you stated that the thousand years ends when satan is released for his little season

As Revelation 20:3 and Revelation 20:7 make very clear. Right?

and then you stated that the thousand years ends after satans release,

No, I never stated that. At least, I never intended to. Where are you seeing that I stated that?

thus there has to be two separate thousand years that end at different times.

No, there absolutely can't be. I truly have no idea how you are coming to this conclusion. Please explain that.

 

[Marty fox]

As Revelation 20:3 and Revelation 20:7 make very clear. Right?


No, I never stated that. At least, I never intended to. Where are you seeing that I stated that?


No, there absolutely can't be. I truly have no idea how you are coming to this conclusion. Please explain that.

Sorry but I thought that you were someone else.

I have explained it over and over again on this thread. Rev 20:7 says that satan is released after the thousand years for his little season and Rev 20:5 says that the rest of the dead are raised after the thousand years which we see at the GWTJ in Rev 20:11-12 which is after satans release and judgement

 

[ewq1938]

If so then answer the questions about verse 5

The questions are irrelevant to the subject being discussed.

 

[Marty fox]

The questions are irrelevant to the subject being discussed.

How are the irrelevant its the topic that we are discussing? Why are you avoiding it?

 

[ewq1938]

How are the irrelevant its the topic that we are discussing? Why are you avoiding it?

I already answered why. Irrelevant questions. They show you don't understand the topic in the slightest.

 

[Marty fox]

I already answered why. Irrelevant questions. They show you don't understand the topic in the slightest.

Saying a statement like that with nothing behind it is just a way of avoiding questions that apply to this topic so how could they be irrelevant when it’s the very topic that we are discussing?

So lets be adults here and have a mature respectable discussion. You can’t just avoid them publicly if it doesn’t make sense

The scriptures in revelation chapter 20 show two different endings of thousand years. This is the scriptures not me showing it so the questions are not irrelevant so please answer them.

The bible in verse 7 shows the end of the binding and verse 5 shows us that the reigning ends in verses 11-12

So if you disagree then please answer the questions and try to prove me wrong.


5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.)

So who is the rest of the dead?

When do they come to life?

When does revelation chapter 20 show the rest of the dead come to life?