Prophect Alert - Be ready to endure the last days

[Keraz]

Acts 14:22 We are warned, that to enter the Kingdom of God, we must undergo many hardships.

Jeremiah 9:7 I shall refine My people; how else should I deal with them?

Romans 8:17 If we are His heirs, then we must share His suffering, if we are also to share in His glory.

John 17:15 I do not pray for You to take them [My people] out of this world, but that You keep them from the evil one.



Revelation 3:10 ...keep you from the hour of trial.

John 17:15....keep them from the evil one.

Jeremiah 30:7 ...Jacobs trouble – but he shall be saved out of it.

All the four highlighted above are translated from the same Greek words –tereo ek. Tereo ek means ; to be kept from falling - not giving way under pressure and temptation, not physical rescue or protection. The prayer of Jesus in John 17:15, failed if He meant for His disciples to be physically protected, as they were all martyred. [except John]



Luke 21:34-36 Be prepared, do not let worldly cares catch you unawares, when the Great Day comes, for that day will come to everyone the world over. Be alert, praying at all times for the strength to pass safely through all that is coming, so you will be able to stand in the Lord’s presence. [Note that some Bibles say ‘escape all these things’, but the correct translation is ‘to pass safely through’.]

1 Peter 4:12-19 Dear friends, do not be surprised by the fiery ordeal which has come to test you, for the time has come for the judgement to begin and it begins with God’s own household. So if you suffer according to His will, you must continue to trust Him, while still doing good and your Maker will not fail you. [This passage applies to all the Church saints who have been and are, persecuted for His sake. But it more specifically applies to us, as we await the multi prophesied fire judgement that will test the faith of everyone.] 2 Thessalonians 1:7-8

1 Corinthians 10:13 So far you have faced no trial beyond human endurance, God keeps faith and will not let you be tested beyond your powers, but when the test comes, He will provide a way out and enable you to endure it. [We will all be tested, there is no ‘rapture’ out of it, but those who trust Him and call on his Name, will be helped through this terrible time. Joel 2:32]

1 Corinthians 1:7-9 There is indeed no single gift that you lack, while you wait expectantly for Jesus to reveal Himself. He will keep you firm until the end, without reproach until the Day of His Return. God Himself has called you to share in the life of His Son, and God keeps faith.

Jeremiah 25:29 I shall first punish Jerusalem, [Judah] so do you think you can be exempt? No, you will not escape judgement, for I am bringing punishment upon all the inhabitants of the earth. This is the Word of the Lord.

Revelation 13:10b ....this calls for the endurance and faithfulness of God’s people.

 

[GTW27]

Acts 14:22 We are warned, that to enter the Kingdom of God, we must undergo many hardships.

Jeremiah 9:7 I shall refine My people; how else should I deal with them?

Romans 8:17 If we are His heirs, then we must share His suffering, if we are also to share in His glory.

John 17:15 I do not pray for You to take them [My people] out of this world, but that You keep them from the evil one.



Revelation 3:10 ...keep you from the hour of trial.

John 17:15....keep them from the evil one.

Jeremiah 30:7 ...Jacobs trouble – but he shall be saved out of it.

All the four highlighted above are translated from the same Greek words –tereo ek. Tereo ek means ; to be kept from falling - not giving way under pressure and temptation, not physical rescue or protection. The prayer of Jesus in John 17:15, failed if He meant for His disciples to be physically protected, as they were all martyred. [except John]



Luke 21:34-36 Be prepared, do not let worldly cares catch you unawares, when the Great Day comes, for that day will come to everyone the world over. Be alert, praying at all times for the strength to pass safely through all that is coming, so you will be able to stand in the Lord’s presence. [Note that some Bibles say ‘escape all these things’, but the correct translation is ‘to pass safely through’.]

1 Peter 4:12-19 Dear friends, do not be surprised by the fiery ordeal which has come to test you, for the time has come for the judgement to begin and it begins with God’s own household. So if you suffer according to His will, you must continue to trust Him, while still doing good and your Maker will not fail you. [This passage applies to all the Church saints who have been and are, persecuted for His sake. But it more specifically applies to us, as we await the multi prophesied fire judgement that will test the faith of everyone.] 2 Thessalonians 1:7-8

1 Corinthians 10:13 So far you have faced no trial beyond human endurance, God keeps faith and will not let you be tested beyond your powers, but when the test comes, He will provide a way out and enable you to endure it. [We will all be tested, there is no ‘rapture’ out of it, but those who trust Him and call on his Name, will be helped through this terrible time. Joel 2:32]

1 Corinthians 1:7-9 There is indeed no single gift that you lack, while you wait expectantly for Jesus to reveal Himself. He will keep you firm until the end, without reproach until the Day of His Return. God Himself has called you to share in the life of His Son, and God keeps faith.

Jeremiah 25:29 I shall first punish Jerusalem, [Judah] so do you think you can be exempt? No, you will not escape judgement, for I am bringing punishment upon all the inhabitants of the earth. This is the Word of the Lord.

Revelation 13:10b ....this calls for the endurance and faithfulness of God’s people.

"Come my people, enter your chambers, and shut your doors behind you; hide yourselves for a little while until the wrath is past. For behold, The Lord is coming out of His place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity, and the earth will disclose the blood shed upon her, and will no more cover her slain."

 

[Bobby Jo]

WARNING #5,451.284,766,328 -- GET READY FOR JESUS. HE'S COMING AT ANY MOMENT!!!

What nonsense, what blather, what empty projections/postulations/theories/speculations.


What I want to hear is a SCRIPTURAL BASIS for ANY timeline espoused. -- Yeah, that ain't happen'in,
Bobby Jo

 

[Jay Ross]

WARNING #5,451.284,766,328 -- GET READY FOR JESUS. HE'S COMING AT ANY MOMENT!!!

What nonsense, what blather, what empty projections/postulations/theories/speculations.


What I want to hear is a SCRIPTURAL BASIS for ANY timeline espoused. -- Yeah, that ain't happen'in,
Bobby Jo

Bobby Jo, if you know the year AA {After Adam} in which God's glory filled Solomon's temple when it was dedicated, then you may be on the way to solving this mystery for yourself, as to when Christ will return in all of His Gory to judge the nations, with the help of just one Old Testament prophecy. But I am not going to hold my breathe waiting for you to come up with an answer either, because that is not your style. You prefer to be-little people and harass them with your rhetoric. So here is your chance to prove your worth to every one on the board by displaying your ability to actually provide an answer to this question.

I await your learned response.

Shalom

PS: - all of the information can be found in the scriptures and history is not required.

 

[Bobby Jo]

... Shalom ...

More "religious" hokem from the guy who not only has NO CLUE as to the FUTURE, -- but can't even resolve HISTORY!

Daniel 11:2 “And now I will show you the truth. Behold, three more kings shall arise in Persia, and a fourth shall be far richer than all of them. And when he has become strong through his riches, he shall stir up all against the kingdom of Greece.​

... choose which "three more ... and a fourth" ...

539 - 530 Cyrus the Great
530 - 522 Cambyses
522 - 486 Darius I (Hystaspes)
486 - 465 Xerxes
465 - 423 Artaxerxes I
423 Xerxes II - few weeks
423 Sogdianus - six months
423 - 404 Darius II
404 - 359 Artaxerxes II
359 - 338 Artaxerxes III (Ochus)
338 Arses
338 - 330 Darius III (Codomanus)​

So many words, so little intelligence,
Bobby Jo

 

[Jay Ross]

More "religious" hokem from the guy who not only has NO CLUE as to the FUTURE, -- but can't even resolve HISTORY!

Daniel 11:2 “And now I will show you the truth. Behold, three more kings shall arise in Persia, and a fourth shall be far richer than all of them. And when he has become strong through his riches, he shall stir up all against the kingdom of Greece.​

... choose which "three more ... and a fourth" ...

539 - 530 Cyrus the Great
530 - 522 Cambyses
522 - 486 Darius I (Hystaspes)
486 - 465 Xerxes
465 - 423 Artaxerxes I
423 Xerxes II - few weeks
423 Sogdianus - six months
423 - 404 Darius II
404 - 359 Artaxerxes II
359 - 338 Artaxerxes III (Ochus)
338 Arses
338 - 330 Darius III (Codomanus)​

So many words, so little intelligence,
Bobby Jo

So you are not wanting to answer a simple question and you keep repeating the same old same old rubbish along with your usual put downs of other people exposing your short comings with respect to a conversation with other people.

One can only hope that you will start being honest on this forum.

 

[Bobby Jo]

So you are not wanting to answer a simple question ...

Daniel 11:2 “And now I will show you the truth. Behold, three more kings shall arise in Persia, and a fourth shall be far richer than all of them. And when he has become strong through his riches, he shall stir up all against the kingdom of Greece.​

... choose which "three more ... and a fourth" ...

539 - 530 Cyrus the Great
530 - 522 Cambyses
522 - 486 Darius I (Hystaspes)
486 - 465 Xerxes
465 - 423 Artaxerxes I
423 Xerxes II - few weeks
423 Sogdianus - six months
423 - 404 Darius II
404 - 359 Artaxerxes II
359 - 338 Artaxerxes III (Ochus)
338 Arses
338 - 330 Darius III (Codomanus)
​

Don't talk, -- answer.

Oh what, you don't have an answer? That surprises me!!!!!
Bobby Jo

 

[Truth]

As to not disrespect anyone who has posted in this thread!!! The Julian Calendar was established about 42 years before the Birth of Our Savior! Also anyone using Date's to project any event, like the second coming! utilizing the Gregorian Calendar, is false! We are about, depending on your location, for me about 3000 miles, and at least 2000 years removed from the method of reckoning, days, month's, and year's according to God's Calendar! So it will take a student to utilize, Scriptural, Historical, and the Knowledge of God's Calendar to even begin to determine what, when, and where event's will happen! Our Heavenly Father does not run this universe according to what we use as a calendar, and if we do not understand His reckoning of time it make's no difference to Him, if we are stupid concerning His Calendar, then we are just stupid, and His event's will just roll right over us without us seeing it coming!!
The Julian Calendar is still in use today, NASA uses it to determine when to Launch spacecraft to intercept with planets ten years in advance!
Also anyone who states that the original Sabbath was lost, only needs to realize that during our Masters Ministry the said Julian calendar was in effect! and has been throughout history up to now!
God put the Sun the Moon and the Star's in the Heavens, for Day's, for Month's and for Year's!! a little research can reveal Much!

 

[Bobby Jo]

.. The Julian Calendar ...

With due regard, Calendar usages with respect to NASA are not as you suggest. Secondly, GOD does not use the Julian calendar. HE uses the Gregorian as do we.

I don't say what I can't prove,
Bobby Jo

 

[Jay Ross]

As to not disrespect anyone who has posted in this thread!!! The Julian Calendar was established about 42 years before the Birth of Our Savior! Also anyone using Date's to project any event, like the second coming! utilizing the Gregorian Calendar, is false! We are about, depending on your location, for me about 3000 miles, and at least 2000 years removed from the method of reckoning, days, month's, and year's according to God's Calendar! So it will take a student to utilize, Scriptural, Historical, and the Knowledge of God's Calendar to even begin to determine what, when, and where event's will happen! Our Heavenly Father does not run this universe according to what we use as a calendar, and if we do not understand His reckoning of time it make's no difference to Him, if we are stupid concerning His Calendar, then we are just stupid, and His event's will just roll right over us without us seeing it coming!!
The Julian Calendar is still in use today, NASA uses it to determine when to Launch spacecraft to intercept with planets ten years in advance!
Also anyone who states that the original Sabbath was lost, only needs to realize that during our Masters Ministry the said Julian calendar was in effect! and has been throughout history up to now!
God put the Sun the Moon and the Star's in the Heavens, for Day's, for Month's and for Year's!! a little research can reveal Much!

I tend to use the years as designed by God on day four. That means that our solar year of 365.25 days in a year should be used at all time since the Jewish calendar was adjusted regularly to bring it back into alignment with the solar years. Using dates calculated for Ancient History can be problematical in that people like Ussher used a 360 day year and then adjusted it for solar years to fix dates in the ancient history of the bible. If we use the year, AA, that Solomon's temple was dedicated and add to that calculation the time span of one OT prophecy we can fix the length of time in AA years between the creation of Adam and the time of the final judgement. The problem is fixing the AA time line with the Gregorian Calendar is a little problematical in that there is still scholarly debate/argument as to the year that Christ was born. My research into the earth's timeline between when Adam was created and the final judgement time is around 7,168 AA year. Given the biblical story telling accuracy of time leaves much to be desired, this calculation as far as I am able to confirm it, is a reasonable estimation of the timeline between the start and the finishing events.

It all comes down to how we go about our interpretation of the Bible itself.

Shalom

 

[Bobby Jo]

... It all comes down to how we go about our interpretation of the Bible itself. ...

Your MISINTERPRETATION. Misinterpretation of Scripture, History, -- and rational thinking ...

Bobby Jo

 

[Truth]

I tend to use the years as designed by God on day four. That means that our solar year of 365.25 days in a year should be used at all time since the Jewish calendar was adjusted regularly to bring it back into alignment with the solar years. Using dates calculated for Ancient History can be problematical in that people like Ussher used a 360 day year and then adjusted it for solar years to fix dates in the ancient history of the bible. If we use the year, AA, that Solomon's temple was dedicated and add to that calculation the time span of one OT prophecy we can fix the length of time in AA years between the creation of Adam and the time of the final judgement. The problem is fixing the AA time line with the Gregorian Calendar is a little problematical in that there is still scholarly debate/argument as to the year that Christ was born. My research into the earth's timeline between when Adam was created and the final judgement time is around 7,168 AA year. Given the biblical story telling accuracy of time leaves much to be desired, this calculation as far as I am able to confirm it, is a reasonable estimation of the timeline between the start and the finishing events.

It all comes down to how we go about our interpretation of the Bible itself.

Shalom

Truthfully I have been following the lunar cycle for 20 years, and it has been accurate month by month, so I do believe that God still runs His Creation according to His Created Calendar! Of course it is established in the Land, by the sighting of the first sliver of the renewed Moon! Anyway, it is up to each individual to ascertain their own conviction's!

 

[Truth]

With due regard, Calendar usages with respect to NASA are not as you suggest. Secondly, GOD does not use the Julian calendar. HE uses the Gregorian as do we.

I don't say what I can't prove,
Bobby Jo

I have no way to know if God uses the Gregorian calendar, it was not Created by God, it is a man made reckoning of the annual time span!

 

[Bobby Jo]

I have no way to know if God uses the Gregorian calendar, ...

That's why GOD has provided the FIVE-FOLD ministry: Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors, & Teachers. I don't expect HE gave you ALL the GIFTINGS. -- But I could be wrong.

Have you searched the Scriptures for evidence where GOD uses the Gregorian calendar? And if GOD uses the Gregorian, who's to say whether it was part of GOD's plan (and Creation) for mankind?
Bobby Jo

 

[Truth]

That's why GOD has provided the FIVE-FOLD ministry: Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors, & Teachers. I don't expect HE gave you ALL the GIFTINGS. -- But I could be wrong.

Have you searched Scripture for evidence where GOD uses the Gregorian calendar? And if GOD uses the Gregorian, who's to say whether it was part of GOD's plan (and Creation) for mankind?
Bobby Jo

In the Gospel record, the evidence to which calendar was in place is very clear! on the 10th day of the First month, of the Aviv Barley, our Savior road into the north gate, which is called the Triumphal Entry!
When the Barley is in a state of Maturity near the end of the 12th month, and the new moon is sighted, that day begins the First month of the year, after which all other Feasts are established! on the 10th day the national Passover Lamb is selected and brought into the city by the North Gate, and then staked up on the Temple Mount for all to inspect for four days!! Just as Our Savior did, and then on the 14th day the Passover Lamb is Sacrificed, Just as they put our Savior to Death after trying to find fault [ blemish] with Him for four days! and this is just the beginning of the Spring Feasts, which will be fulfilled to the very day, that they were established, as they were for a thousand years before our Saviors was crucified, This Calendar was used up into the third Century! I have never found any evidence of the Gregorian Calendar being used in the Gospel Record?

 

[Bobby Jo]

... I have never found any evidence of the Gregorian Calendar being used in the Gospel Record ...

The Gregorian calendar wasn't in existence until the mid to late 1500's (approx. 1582). I could be mistaken, but I believe the Gospels were written prior to 1582, so it not reasonable to expect it's use some 1500 years prior to it's existence. -- Furthermore, the Delorean wasn't invented until until 1981, but the speed limit in 1981 was 55, and it wasn't until 1995-1998 when Montana created it's "reasonable and prudent" unrestricted speed limit when vehicles could legally travel 88 mph. But by then the Delorean was out of production, thus time travel was inherently unavailable.

Have you considered searching the entire Bible (Old and New) for what the Gospels failed to deliver? I'm quite certain you can/will find what you've missed! :)

Bobby Jo

 

[Bobby Jo]

@Keraz

To All,
For the sake of the OP, please be aware that I'm NOT deviating from the subject. I would propose that Scripture provides CORRECT Gregorian calendar dating for our end-time era, including specific events and specific years. And although the OP doesn't provide that citation or substantiation, it exists in spite of our ignorance.

The only question is whether we choose to remain ignorant, or wish to receive GOD's provisions!
Bobby Jo

 

[Keraz]

@Keraz

To All,
For the sake of the OP, please be aware that I'm NOT deviating from the subject. I would propose that Scripture provides CORRECT Gregorian calendar dating for our end-time era, including specific events and specific years. And although the OP doesn't provide that citation or substantiation, it exists in spite of our ignorance.

The only question is whether we choose to remain ignorant, or wish to receive GOD's provisions!
Bobby Jo

Your posts BJ, do not help anyones understanding, they just accuse, denigrate and are generally unpleasant.

Re the calendar; God has decreed 7000 years from the creation of mankind to the completion of His Plan.
This time period is found in the Bible, divided into 2000 years from Adam until Abraham, 2000 years from Abraham until Jesus, 2000 years from Jesus first Advent until His Return, then 1000 years of Jesus as King of the world.
We can fix the year we are in now to God's timeline, by using the known date of the Babylonian conquest of Judah; 586 BC.
Therefore, we are now at year 5989 since Adam. Much must happen during the next 11 years. All as prophesied.

 

[Bobby Jo]

...Re the calendar ...

There's an old commercial: Where's The Beef?!?

You offer air-burgers. How about something substantial. How about something this year? Or how about in the next two years? Or how about your wild speculation of 11 years?

If I were paying for this "movie", I'd demand my money back. And yeah, -- I don't demand anything which I can't provide.
Bobby Jo

 

[Jay Ross]

God has decreed 7000 years from the creation of mankind to the completion of His Plan.
This time period is found in the Bible, divided into 2000 years from Adam until Abraham, 2000 years from Abraham until Jesus, 2000 years from Jesus first Advent until His Return, then 1000 years of Jesus as King of the world.
We can fix the year we are in now to God's timeline, by using the known date of the Babylonian conquest of Judah; 586 BC.
Therefore, we are now at year 5989 since Adam. Much must happen during the next 11 years. All as prophesied.

First of all, Abraham was born in the year 1949 AA. God's decreed time is longer that 7,000 years. If the Millennium age consists of a 1,000 years while Staten is locked up and then has a little while period to follow after that before the end of the Millennium Age, then the Millennium Age must be longer than 1,000 year. How about the length of the Millennium Age will approach 1024 years in duration. From Abraham's birth to Jesus' birth, there is about 2,148 years.

Previously in post #10, I suggested that God's decreed time from the creation of mankind until the completion of his plan is closer to 7,168 solar years long. I also provided evidence as to how I arrived at that number. Currently 2023 solar years have passed since the birth of Christ.

From the Fig Tree lesson in Matt 24:32, it would seem to me that there is still another 25 solar years to go before the end of this present age.

Shalom