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Some anti-Israel protesters are calling for intifada. I wonder if they know what that means...

 

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What happened was the weaponization of religious identity — where a group of largely secular, post-Enlightenment, Eastern European-descended people claimed a mythic ethnic identity, and used it to justify permanent political control over a land they were never indigenous to in any meaningful biblical or genetic sense. It’s absolutely absurd. Someone from Upstate New York with a fully European genome and zero ancestral ties to the Levant can be declared an “ethnic Jew” — while a family that’s lived in Bethlehem for 2,000 years gets bombed into rubble. This isn’t just unjust — it’s fraudulent theology and counterfeit identity, and it’s been destabilizing the world for 77 years straight. And if anyone seriously believes that Rob “Meathead” Reiner from All in the Family is some kind of "ancient Hebrew descendant" — they’re living in absolute fantasyland.

What makes all of this even more absurd is that according to the Gospel of Jesus Christ — Christians are the true Israel. Not only do these secular Polish carpetbaggers have zero claim to the land in any legitimate genetic, historical, or biblical sense — but spiritually, they’re not even in the covenant. They reject the Messiah, spit on His name, and mock His Gospel — yet still claim to be “the chosen people”? Chosen by whoBaal? The New Testament couldn’t be clearer: “If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to the promise” (Galatians 3:29). These Christ-rejecting Zionists have no part in the inheritance. None. They are not the Israel of God — and according to Jesus, their house was left to them desolate 2,000 years ago (Matthew 23:38).

So let’s get this straight: not only do they not belong in the land — they have no right whatsoever to claim the identity of being "God’s people". That honor belongs to those washed in the blood of the Lamb — the Body of Christ. The Church, not the Knesset, is the temple of the Holy Spirit. The true Jerusalem isn’t flying an IDF flag — it’s the Bride of Christ, waiting in faith for the return of her King. And these frauds have the gall to steal a divine identity, turn Gaza into a graveyard, and then dare to call it “fulfillment of prophecy”? That’s not prophecy — that’s blasphemy.

The problem isn’t that Muslims are furious about this hell-born calamity — it’s that modern Christians aren’t. The Church should be flipping tables, not waving flags. Christ isn’t coming back to endorse a Zionist war machine that never belonged in the region — He’s coming to judge it. And when He does, it won’t be with political favors and military aid — it’ll be with a sword and a reckoning.
 
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Hello

God in Genesis 15:16 did tell Abraham that some of his descendants some 4,000 years after Isaac was born would return to where he was sojourning/living in their own strength and at that time when they returned, the Amorite people's iniquities against God would continue to grow until such time that they were completed.

Now this prophecy does not indicate that this return to the Land of Canaan would be profitable for all concerned as the completion of the Daniel 8 prophecy of the Little Horn being given armies would not be for a further 96 years from when they reclaimed ownership of the land of Canaan.

Also, the visitation of the iniquities of the fathers, foretold in Ex 20:4-6, will not end until the completion of the fourth age of the existence of Israel from the time of Isaac's birth. It is my understanding that the end of the fourth age of the existence of Israel will occur in around 20 years' time from now.

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The problem isn’t that Muslims are furious about this hell-born calamity — it’s that modern Christians aren’t.

Do you know that the Hamas charter says to kill Jews not only in Israel...but kill them worldwide? I cannot condone that.

Islam means to rule worldwide. You either will die under them or become a second class citizen paying a tax to live under their Sharia Law.
 

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People love to spiritualize timelines, speculate about “ages of Israel,” and quote Genesis 15 like it justifies anything happening today. But here’s the truth: The covenant with Abraham was fulfilled in Christ. The New Testament makes it crystal clear — the true Israel is not a geopolitical state. It’s the Body of Christ.

“Not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel.” — Romans 9:6

“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” — Galatians 3:29

“There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.”
“And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, heirs according to the promise.”

— Galatians 3:28–29


There is no more ethnic covenant. No nation owns God.
The only “chosen people” now are those washed in the blood of Jesus Christ.

So when a secular, Christ-rejecting state claims to fulfill prophecy while dropping bombs on families (including Christians, not just Muslims) who’ve lived in the land since the time of Christ — that’s not fulfillment. That’s Blasphemy.

Jesus didn’t die to establish an earthly kingdom.
He died to tear the veil and build a heavenly one.
The true Jerusalem is above. The true Israel is the Church.
And anyone still waiting for bricks, bloodlines, or borders is missing the entire point of the cross.

Christ isn’t coming back to wave a flag.
He’s coming back to judge the whole thing —
and only those found in Him will stand.

The moment Jesus said, “Your house is left to you desolate” (Matthew 23:38), the old covenant ended. And the moment He rose from the grave, the only “chosen people” left were those who believed in Him.

So when a group of secular, Christ-rejecting nationalists claim to fulfill biblical prophecy by returning to a land they were never indigenous to — while bombing the very people who’ve lived there for 2,000 years — that’s not divine destiny.

That’s delusion.

There is no covenant outside of Christ.
There is no chosen people apart from His blood.
And there is no fulfillment of prophecy in any movement that denies the Messiah who fulfilled it.

Jesus isn’t returning to crown a Zionist war state.
He’s returning to judge it.

And if your eschatology makes room for any throne besides His,
you’ve missed the Gospel —
and the Kingdom.
 

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Do you know that the Hamas charter says to kill Jews not only in Israel...but kill them worldwide? I cannot condone that.

Islam means to rule worldwide. You either will die under them or become a second class citizen paying a tax to live under their Sharia Law.

This isn’t just about religion. It’s not just about prophecy. It’s about a group of people who, by every biblical, historical, and genetic standard, do not belong in that land, using a weaponized identity to justify permanent occupation, ethnic cleansing, and global destabilization.

And while misled, Western Christians cheer it on — thinking it’s some kind of "divine fulfillment" — the rest of the world sees the truth: This powder keg is dragging the planet toward nuclear war.

Why?

Because when you plant a secular, Christ-rejecting ethnostate in the middle of a region that’s been continuously inhabited by Arabs (many of them Christians also) for thousands of years, prop it up with billions in military aid, and claim "God is behind it"… you’re not fulfilling prophecy — you’re mocking it.

And the fallout won’t just be regional.

This could ignite World War III. Not because Muslims hate freedom. But because the West let a counterfeit kingdom take the place of God’s people — and called it holy.

If the brainwashed Church keeps blessing what God has cursed, the bloodshed won’t stop in Gaza — it’ll end in global nuclear war.

This isn’t support. It’s suicide.
 

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It’s about a group of people who, by every biblical, historical, and genetic standard, do not belong in that land,
@Jericho wrote the following. Perhaps he will comment when he sees this.

 

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@Jericho wrote the following. Perhaps he will comment when he sees this.


The Old Testament — and no one’s blog — overrides the Gospel of Jesus Christ. You don’t get to cherry-pick Levitical land grants or Abrahamic blessings while ignoring the very One those promises were pointing to. Jesus didn’t die so we could crawl back to the shadow when the Light has already come. He fulfilled the law. He replaced the temple. He tore the veil and made a way that no bloodline can claim without Him.

You either submit to the King, or you’re outside the Kingdom.
There is no third option, no ethnic exception, and no theological loophole. Period.

And no — “blindness” and “a hardened heart” are not valid excuses.
Jesus Himself said, “You refuse to come to Me that you may have life.”
Paul said they were cut off because of unbelief — not because they didn’t understand, but because they wouldn’t believe.

Hardness of heart explains the rebellion — but it doesn’t absolve it.
They are without excuse, just like the rest of us were — until we repented.
And unless they turn to Christ, the veil remains.

Matthew 21:43 – Jesus Removes the Kingdom from Them
“Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits.”
Jesus explicitly states that the kingdom has been removed from national Israel and transferred to those who believe in Him — regardless of ethnicity. This is the clearest dismantling of “chosen nation” theology.
If the kingdom has been taken away, then the Old Testament land and national promises are void — replaced by the fruits of faith in Christ.

Galatians 3:28–29 – If You Are Christ’s, You Are Abraham’s Seed

“There is neither Jew nor Greek… you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.”
This defines who the true heirs of God’s promises are: not Jews by blood, but those in Christ, whether Jew or Gentile.
Destroys ethnic inheritance claims.
This explicitly overrides Old Testament genealogical entitlement and declares faith in Christ as the only inheritance that matters.

John 8:42–44 – If God Were Your Father, You Would Love Me

“If God were your Father, you would love me… You are of your father, the devil.”
Jesus flat-out tells religious Jews that they are not of God because they reject Him.
No one can claim to be “God’s chosen people” without loving Christ.
This includes those who claimed descent from Abraham — even the very ones who later demanded Jesus be crucified (John 19:6) — proving bloodline means nothing without belief in Christ.

Romans 9:6 – Not All Who Are Descended from Israel Belong to Israel

Biological lineage means absolutely nothing in the New Covenant.
True Israel = the remnant in Christ, not ethnic or political nationhood.
This makes Old Covenant identity obsolete — God’s people are now defined spiritually, not racially or geographically.

John 10:16 – There Will Be One Flock, One Shepherd

Jesus teaches there are not two peoples of God, but one unified flock under Him.
No dual-covenant. No separate plan for “ethnic Israel.”
The Old Testament distinction between Israel and the nations has been abolished; there is now one people, one Shepherd, one covenant.

Matthew 23:37–38 – Your House Is Left to You Desolate

Jesus mourns over Jerusalem and declares its abandonment.
Their rejection of Him leads to the forsaking of land, temple, and nation.
The destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD was not incidental — it was the fulfillment of Jesus' declaration that the old system was judged and left behind.

John 4:21–24 – Not in Jerusalem Will You Worship the Father

Jesus explicitly ends “holy land” theology.
Worship is now in spirit and truth, not geographic or ethnic locations.
The land promises of the Old Testament have no spiritual relevance post-Christ — God no longer dwells in places, but in people.

Luke 13:28–30 – Outsiders Will Enter, You Will Be Cast Out

Jesus warns national Israel: Gentiles will enter the kingdom, but many of you will not.
Reverses the expectation of blood-based inheritance.
This directly contradicts any claim that the promises remain tied to ethnicity — salvation is no longer a birthright, but a matter of faith.

John 5:45–47 – If You Believed Moses, You’d Believe Me

Rejecting Jesus = rejecting Moses.
This shuts down any attempt to claim Torah authority while denying Christ.
The Old Testament cannot be used as a defense by those who reject its fulfillment in Christ — they are cut off from the covenant they claim.

John 2:19 – Destroy This Temple and I Will Raise It Up

Jesus replaces the physical Temple with His body.
Temple-centered Judaism is fulfilled, replaced, and rendered obsolete in Christ.
This eliminates the necessity — and legitimacy — of a third temple or renewed sacrificial system. Jesus is now the only dwelling place of God.

Hebrews 13:14 / Galatians 4:26 – The City to Come / Jerusalem Above

The true homeland is not earthly Israel, but the heavenly Jerusalem — a kingdom not of this world.
The hope of the believer is not in Middle Eastern soil but in the eternal city, the Bride of Christ, whose gates are open to all redeemed by His blood.

1 John 2:23 / John 5:23 – No One Who Denies the Son Has the Father

You cannot be “God’s chosen people” if you reject Jesus — no matter who you are. Period.
These verses crush the idea that modern Judaism retains covenantal standing.
All Old Testament identities, rituals, and claims collapse under the New Covenant if Christ is rejected.

You Are Either in Christ or You Are Not

If you're in Christ, you are Abraham’s seed and heir.
If you're not — you are not in the covenant, regardless of race, ritual, or religion.
All other forms of identity, nationhood, or religion are irrelevant to God’s redemptive plan — everything now centers on Christ alone.
 
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