Presidential Election Live Coverage 2020

[APAK]

 

[Grailhunter]

The core claimed issues by both Donald and Rudy are checked on the BBC
US election 2020: Fact-checking Trump team's main fraud claims

Now if they are correct in their statements, but looking into the figures they appear totally wrong.
It is one thing to exaggerate about size of crowds etc. to claim great voter meetings, it is another to invent numbers that are audited and declared true to an accuracy within 10's or 100's when counted in the millions, which is 0.01% accuracy
To say it is 100% or more wrong is just a lie, and deception.

There is always a shift change between the campaign trail, calling people crooks, should be in jail etc and real things that change the future. It seems for some this shift is not possible.

I hope you can see the difference, which has nothing to do with being Democrat or Republican, liberal or conservative, but right or wrong. Lose this level of integrity and you have lost everything.

God bless you

So far the "fact checks" mean we have a lie to tell you and we want you to believe it a fact!

 

[Taken]

You are 100% correct, I am not the judge and jury here as to what is proof.

Uh huh agreed.

The great thing about proof is it proves ...

Quite familiar what IS proof, and what IS not proof.

But with this in mind, dismissing my questioning and points solves nothing but confirm truth is not the issue here, but loyalty.

Dismissing your questioning, as well as dismissing your suggestions and your accusations...is solely because they are Irrelevant!

Your irrelevant input does not reveal or confirm anything about my loyalty to anything.
I decide and reveal whatever "loyalty" To whatever I have... you can recognize it, believe it, disagree with it... just like anyone else...but you can not confirm it.

Venom mouth

Who is this "secret person" you have much to say About..."as if" some unidentified person you talk About should gander anyone's interest?

has no kind words to people who legitimately have a problem with his approach and language.

Blah, blah, blah irrelevant opinions About some unidentified person...yawn.

My pointing out these realities gets what from you?

LOL ...your point? Your opinions about some unidentified person...

Melania said she hated christmas and all the f..... work.

No she did not say she hated Christmas.
She was venting in Confidance to an untrustworthy person about Expected First Lady "traditions".
In the US, no one Elects a First Lady.
The First Lady is the wife of a sitting President.
The First Lady has no lawful role in Government.
It is the individual First Lady's that decide what role or causes, they want to take on.
A few First Lady's Starting a "First Lady Tradition", is every individual First Lady's Option.
And once a First Lady Tradition has become set and repeated...it becomes publically EXPECTED, And Pressured....yet still no legal requirement.

So what's the Big Deal, Melania confided to an unworthy person she was feeling at that time pressured and didn't like it...?

LOL...trivial!

Not a good idea to then try and put a show on that you love the new christmas tree coming into the white house.

LOL...not earthshattering.
I feel pressure planning things on a time schedule, and the pressure of planning subsides as the plan is coming into fruition.

Not unusual for most people...hardly a "news"-worthy item. LOL

venom mouth

Your fixation on your mystery person is boring.

 

[Taken]

So far the "fact checks" mean we have a lie to tell you and we want you to believe it a fact!

Factcheck / Snopes is laughable if one does not pay attention to the precise language (not imagined). And to the language they could not verify, does not mean true, does not mean false.

God Bless,
Taken

 

[Taken]

Not one person has to prove anything to you regarding an American General Election.

Your opinions and vile names and accusations against Our Sitting President are a reminder of WHY people Fled England, Fought and Died to be Severed From England, Don't search out products to buy From England, Don't spend money To Support Tourism in your England, and give Tribute to Our American Revolutionary War Patriots.

mailmandan-
Do you know or care who is Englands Prime "Minister"...or the Latest Gossip in Europe's "Kingdom", with their, "Queen", her "royal" family, her crowns, clothing, coaches, throne, speeches or who gets a tap on the shoulder and TITLE, of "Sir, Prince, Princess, Duke, Earl, lord"...in their "Kingdom"???

Some Europeans seem A might confused about what Americans have Faith IN and Worship...and non politically correct speech, IS how most Americans speak.

Taken

 

[aspen]

It is telling, Christians from other counties who post here - conservative or not, are able to see the vileness of our lame duck President. Indeed, there are minority of Americans who have lost perspective

 

[April_Rose]

If you could prove this ok.
No one has proved this.
Two vans appears. Votes dropped in the count. The inference was the vans brought the votes but nothing actually seen. That is not evidence and was rejected from court.

The Trump camp appear to only have things like this. It is absurd to say this is significant, at all. Think with a critical mind. The van could be carrying empty bins, food, equipment, or anything. The count will always get big number drops as large city counts get added.

I am shocked so many want to see proof by inference rather than proof by evidence. Without evidence, no fraud.

The feeling of loss to Trump supporters is the same, so a fraud explanation raises hope, but a false hope.

Either way on whatever happens this doesn't sound like a fair election,.. I've just become more accepting of the fact that that old hermit might wind up in the white house after all and I've admittingly become a bit discouraged.

 

[APAK]

So far the "fact checks" mean we have a lie to tell you and we want you to believe it a fact!

They are called the lying fact checkers of the new 4th Industrial Revolution.

Today, we live in a world where finding facts of the truth from the MSM and high-tech, big money software groups is packaged as distortions, mixed with liars, even destroyed and trampled under foot to become deliberately lost from view. And for those that think we are not in an information war already, it accelerated some 25 years ago when software and hardware technology became very sophisticated, for the internet and TV. Broadcasting lies on TV and on the computer screens is the new norm, and it is so easy to program and transmit them as packets of carefully manipulated data in the form of predefined scripts, loaded and laid in to the communication channels 24/7. We can get bombarded with this $%&&# if we let it..

Look over the last 10 years alone, on the internet, on the web search browsers and engines. The high tech controllers of this software have laid in more and more sophisticated filtering algorithms to keep your eyes off the truth. It can take pages of search engine results to even find some resemblance of facts of truth you are searching for - IF you know how to distinguish blatant lies from truth. I believe as mature Christians we are blessed, having this powerful tool of discernment from the Spirit that brought us the spirit of Christ and truth. It can discern if we allow it, to differentiate between the world's truth and the truth brought by the Spirit. It is a gift that does require some training however...

Yes, they, the technocratic elite and suicidal manics, want to program the young especially; get them while they are young, as they say.

They want children of the 21st century to focus on seeing and believing in mostly double speak, subtle lies that are very persuasive, and useless data fed into their impressionable minds off the screen. They want them to believe in a revised and controlled history of the US and other countries based on deliberate programming designed to divide people, to cause multi-generational division. Look at what the lies of political correctness and racism has already done to this country over the last 30 years, via the TV and the internet?

These children won't know any difference if you catch these 'open' minds at the beginning of their formal education years. And many become their future foot soldiers and defenders of this trash as truth, even with vigor.

I've already seen this happen several times on this site. One will fight to say they have a source of truth, when in reality they cannot discern the source, as really being shallow, manipulative, a source of misinformation. They have no anchor or standard anymore to know the truth.

A few generations back, as late as the 1960s, it was the parents, teachers and the law that were the judges of truth for children and the youth in general. Not anymore. The schools have been taken over by godless people and technology, and now the children of parents believe they hold the truth, and discard and disrespect their parents...it is only getting worse, with every generation.

This Information war is real.....

Blessings,

APAK

 

[lforrest]

If you could prove this ok.
No one has proved this.
Two vans appears. Votes dropped in the count. The inference was the vans brought the votes but nothing actually seen. That is not evidence and was rejected from court.

The Trump camp appear to only have things like this. It is absurd to say this is significant, at all. Think with a critical mind. The van could be carrying empty bins, food, equipment, or anything. The count will always get big number drops as large city counts get added.

I am shocked so many want to see proof by inference rather than proof by evidence. Without evidence, no fraud.

The feeling of loss to Trump supporters is the same, so a fraud explanation raises hope, but a false hope.

I take it you didn't actually read my post about mail trucks showing up 3 weeks later with Trump ballots. That was a hypothetical situation, but every lefty would be incensed and demanding a new election, an audit, charges of treason. The MSM may even go out and do real journalism for something like that.

 

[April_Rose]

Hey guys look at this!! 0__0

 

[APAK]

Hey guys look at this!! 0__0

Folks should be watching this live now....

 

[April_Rose]

Folks should be watching this live now....

I got my fingers crossed. (Literally lol )

 

[Heart2Soul]

Hey guys look at this!! 0__0

Watching!

 

[April_Rose]

Watching!

I'm nervous myself so I can only imagine how they're feeling.

 

[Heart2Soul]

I'm nervous myself so I can only imagine how they're feeling.

What I have watched up to this point is utterly appalling with how the election board officials ignored their own rules that they themselves established for all elections to follow.
Thank you Senators and Representatives of Pennsylvania for holding this townhall meeting and allowing the people to hear the evidence for themselves.

 

[April_Rose]

What I have watched up to this point is utterly appalling with how the election board officials ignored their own rules that they themselves established for all elections to follow.
Thank you Senators and Representatives of Pennsylvania for holding this townhall meeting and allowing the people to hear the evidence for themselves.

Oh believe me I know and I totally agree.

 

[WaterSong]

Biblical Zion is noting like the so called Zionist are about at all. they have only stole the Name.

Judaism is what is set down in the OT and nothing other, not to mention them days are gone 2000 years ago.

Jews ? they are not a race, they were only one Tribe among many Semitic peoples.

As to the Bible a true Israelite was only the people who served God in fact.

The Tribe of Israel does not consist of all being a true Israelites in fact. just as we see Bible points to Jacob getting that from a Angel because he was a man of God = an Israel one who serves God, but no one has ever received such a like that because they are only true ones in the Tribe Bible points out one person who Jesus Christ says in fact, who this bloke is ! a True Israelite in fact ! yes indeed he was the epitome that was Nathaniel.
Many in the Tribe of Israel were kicked out in OT times remember, if you have ever read the OT, you would know the fact was so.
Of the 12 of the Tribes boys 10 did not cut it that well, only 2 were much loved by Jacob Israel and they were the real boys of his true Marriage that he wanted, he never truly wanted the others because they were not his beloved Sons, they hated one Son remember and were going to kill him but then they put him in a pit but then sold him for how much Silver ? does that click ?

So then when them brothers come to him when he is now in such powerful position, we have that he calls out to see his baby full brother who he calls out for them to see him and what did they say about that to him ? remember ! they were spinning out about that.

What does Jesus Christ say ? you must truly be born again ! that's the Key and you must abide in the Vine, that's Him as he is the wellspring that you must drink from.

All this nonsense about race just does not cut it in fact at all, YOU MUST TRULY BE BORN AGAIN to enter into the Kingdom of God ! apart from that one is lost regardless and not worthy of God.

I did not imagine Jew was a race. Thank you for your information. Much appreciated.:)

 

[WaterSong]

I did say this topic is huge already, right....of Zionism and Judaism?

First though, I never did bring any information, or have not yet brought any sources forward on this subject to call myself the source of it.

You know you can search the internet for some sources of truth on these subjects that is much more credible that the one you 'raised.' Take a look at, for example, Zionism | Definition, History, Examples, & Facts for the Zionism part....

Now this source for Zionism has much truth however it is sprinkled with some poison or at least misleading information. You also have to see one needs to get more data or sources, or a much larger pool of sources to build your truth framework on any subject out of your personal reach and understanding and of complexity.

Using this Britannica source and many others, I can say that Zionism is a late 19th century movement by a people calling themselves Zionist Jews. I can buy into this as a holding point written in pencil and not ink at this time, because, at least, the part where is says Jew or Jews need to also be sources and researched to know who or what are these Jews, as I said before.

What Jews is this source talking about....and the search for truth thus continues until you are satisfied with that area and then you move to the next.....there is NOT ONE source that has all the truth on such a subject as Zionism or Judaism on one page or in one 3 page article....and where they can tell the truth 100%...I've seen very few sources that have satisfied my mind 100%, on the first pass....

You need to know what level of understanding you want, to satisfy your mind. My level could be must deeper on this subject of Zionism and Judaism that yours, or visa versa. What are you EXPECTING to see or read to satisfy your mind on this subject? If you have an expectation already set in stone in your mind, of what the answer should be, then you might have already 'killed off' any possibility of reaching the truth of these two topics.

One has to be not just open-minded, also patient, and not judgmental before one has upturned many stones first.

Unfortunately, today we live in a world that thrives and lives off ready-quickly-made answers to any subject, whether trivial or complex. This is just data although not necessarily reliable or the truth. Researchers and analysts are becoming a rare breed these days. Most folks want to be fed data rather that research for themselves the truth. Of course one has to know that data is not necessarily the truth...or maybe it does not matter to many these days.

APAK

Thank you for your thoughtful reply.
I was going by what you said of your knowledge when you called the source I provided that showed the difference between Zionism and Judaism full of propaganda.
Thanks again.

 

[WaterSong]

LOL, -- after FOX News stabbed us all in the back, both my wife and I DELIBERATELY ignore that channel, and apparently their viewership has dropped by some 50%, so that now even MSN has better ratings.

But we DO watch Mark Levin's "Life, Liberty & Levin"; and also FOX Business with Maria, MacDonald, and Dobbs.

With Best Regards,
Bobby Jo

PS I have such animosity toward FOX News that I won't even watch their Youtube channel "News NOW from FOX".

Lke 16:10 “He who is faithful in a very little is faithful also in much; and he who is dishonest in a very little is dishonest also in much.​

Rumor has it that Fox, once critical at times of Soros, was bought by Soros recently. In full or in part I don't know.
However, if true that would go a long way to explain their sudden turn I'd think.
"Freedom of the press", remember when that meant something other than, if you buy the press they'll deliver your chosen propaganda platform all day long?

 

[Heart2Soul]

Wow....1million+ mail in ballots mailed out....2million+ mail in ballots received and counted....????????????????