Presidential Election Live Coverage 2020

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April_Rose

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I'm actually surprised that people from other countries are keeping up with this election as much as they are.
 
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Counting can take a while in Australia too.

It's really tight election, that's why we don't know the result of the US election yet.

So they really have to finish counting every single vote, and do a few recounts. Since it is tight.
 

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I'm actually surprised that people from other countries are keeping up with this election as much as they are.

Trump is so so so so so unusual, a real walking disaster. No one can believe he can invent things, claim he has some great facts, which turn out to be just his accusations reflecting his emotional imbalance rather than reality. There is a saying, the bigger the lie, the more believable it becomes. The problem with arguing with an electorate, is if they are literally voting and can see their votes are being counted and everything is honest and fair, one becomes the liar and false instigator of problems when you accuse the innocent and those with real integrity of sin and evil.

It is the dark side of business, where money speaks, and you can take on the little guy and squash them. In elections though you are taking on the society, and you will get squashed by those able to articulate and expose the emotional reality. Why should Trump lie? Because he does it all the time, literally. Covid is a lie, the deep state are out to get him, big business does not care, he is a little guy....... sure thing, every friend becomes an enemy, one moment he knows everything, the next he agrees with the opposite idea.

There are no other politicians who behave like this, because it is just a walking disaster, a joke, hidden behind very talented people who are trying to do a good job. A sociopath knows how to exploit and craves attention, has a very short attention span, and if viseral against their enemies. "I am not a racist, I just know my voter base loves white domination, and boy that is good for America....." Hitler learnt how to stir up a crowd, to pander to their aspirations and to turn their enemies into the most evil people in the world who deserve to die. QAnnon makes the enemies pedophiles, satanists, blood thirsty gouls...... This kind to path and language leads to war and the death camps ..... it is the opposite of what America stands for and its optimism of opportunity and work unlocking the door to success. But maybe the audience is old middle aged men who have no hope and want to cling on to the ideas of their past, rather than boldly go into a new technological future......
 

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I think Biden might be lucky to hold on to Arizona now, the margin is only 46k, with still 10% left to count.
 

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I think Biden might be lucky to hold on to Arizona now, the margin is only 46k, with still 10% left to count.
Yeah....it's going to go down to the wire.
 

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Yeah and so far it seems to be anything but a fair election. I have much more faith and hope in Trump succeeding with his victory in the end than I did yesterday that's for sure. There's no question that he's being robbed from votes at the moment.
Too much fraud and law breaking during this election. More votes from dead people. They have video of observers being denied access to observe vote counting in Philadelphia and elsewhere, which is illegal. All in Democratic run cities. Such a disgrace! Partisan operation.
 

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So they really have to finish counting every single vote, and do a few recounts. Since it is tight.

The final electoral count won't be a landslide like I've heard his supporters boast it would be. I hope this election will spark a political movement that will lead to voting reform in the presidential election and a Constitutional Amendment to either amend or abolish the Electoral College.
 
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So they really have to finish counting every single vote, and do a few recounts. Since it is tight.

Some democrat cities denied the republicans the court ordered right to observe the counting. Part of the counting of mail-in ballots required their opening be observed, such as verifying their postmark isn't dated after the election. They can not be recounted with the same potential veracity as the initial count. There are lawsuits to get all of these ballots counted without proper observation thrown out.
 

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It isn't fair because Trump is losing
 
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So they really have to finish counting every single vote, and do a few recounts. Since it is tight.

No, they have to count every legal vote not every vote and therein lies the problem. They are counting dead folks, made up ballots, ballots that had post marks changed all trying to steel what is the American people's voice
 

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The final electoral count won't be a landslide like I've heard his supporters boast it would be. I hope this election will spark a political movement that will lead to voting reform in the presidential election and a Constitutional Amendment to either amend or abolish the Electoral College.






There's nothing wrong with the electoral college vote when it's a fair race. The way I see it with the latest news somebody has to be lying and the other is telling the truth. Now since we all know how honest Biden is and that he has a record of telling the truth for the past hundred and eighty years that Trump has to be making this up. :rolleyes: (I hope you guys can tell that this is sarcasm because believe me it is. :p)
 
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Some democrat cities denied the republicans the court ordered right to observe the counting. Part of the counting of mail-in ballots required their opening be observed, such as verifying their postmark isn't dated after the election. They can not be recounted with the same potential veracity as the initial count. There are lawsuits to get all of these ballots counted without proper observation thrown out.

I guess we will just have to wait longer and see what happens.
 
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No, they have to count every legal vote not every vote and therein lies the problem. They are counting dead folks, made up ballots, ballots that had post marks changed all trying to steel what is the American people's voice

prove it
 

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So....I have a question

why are Trumpsters demanding and protesting for PA to stop counting when Biden is ahead? And do you support this action? I have to admit, it might be the first Mad King demand I find attractive
 
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There's nothing wrong with the electoral college vote when it's a fair race.

Based on your defense of the Electoral College, I suppose it would be fair for me to assume that you've learned more about it since Election Day. I remember that you expressed some confusion earlier on in this thread about not being 100% sure how the electoral votes affect the election.
 

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So....I have a question

why are Trumpsters demanding and protesting for PA to stop counting when Biden is ahead? And do you support this action? I have to admit, it might be the first Mad King demand I find attractive

Speaking of Trump supporters, I was surprised to find out that many of the conservatives I know don't understand the presidential election voting process and some of them don't even know what the Electoral College is. I was dismayed when I was told that the Electoral College is an actual college where the electors meet to vote on which candidate to elect. I'm thinking it's frightening these people want their party to be in power.
 

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Speaking of Trump supporters, I was surprised to find out that many of the conservatives I know don't understand the presidential election voting process and some of them don't even know what the Electoral College is. I was dismayed when I was told that the Electoral College is an actual college where the electors meet to vote on which candidate to elect. I'm thinking it's frightening these people want their party to be in power.

we are a post-Christian and post-literate nation
 

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So....I have a question

why are Trumpsters demanding and protesting for PA to stop counting when Biden is ahead? And do you support this action? I have to admit, it might be the first Mad King demand I find attractive

Trump is leading currently in PA with a 24k lead, 94% counted, that's gonna be quite close too, I thought Biden might overtake Trump by at least 50k votes, but that does not look like the case anymore, I think it's going to be very close with only a few thousand in between.

Georgia, might possibly go down to a few hundred in between.
 

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Trump is leading currently in PA with a 24k lead, 94% counted, that's gonna be quite close too, I thought Biden might overtake Trump by at least 50k votes, but that does not look like the case anymore, I think it's going to be very close with only a few thousand in between.

Georgia, might possibly go down to a few hundred in between.


Yes, Trump is ahead in PA, but Biden is ahead on popular and electoral votes so if the counting of ballots stopped now, Biden would be president elect.
In the case of PA, I predict a Biden win, based on the trend of mail in voting - even from rural areas.
 
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