Presidential Election Live Coverage 2020

[FollowHim]

5 weeks to go.
Trump has lost. The hope is to stop the machinery of government.

Any group who attempt this by definition are sedicious. Democracy works by representing people through politicians. If you lose faith in representative democracy you are no longer an American.

Freedom to bear arms and do what you want. Go form your dictatorship communities, with apostles running your lives, and see how free you are!!!

I suspect this is all about identity, and Trump giving you a sense of home, belonging you grew up with, and the current world is alien. I know this because I feel the same, but I am old, seen shifts people thought impossible, revolutions which are science fiction, and international mixing on a scale never before known. The old world has gone, completely. Either wise up or get broken.

We are not going to Mars soon, but equally utopia is not round the corner, just a world of learning to care and socialise, learning to love ones neighbours.

God bless you

 

[FollowHim]

It is ironic.
Impeach Biden before inauguration, play China as the player and only the armed forces can defend the union against the communists.

You can see the play to enact emergency powers, in this propoganda. Trouble with liberal democracies is popularism works on image, without a counter play you can do illegal deeds.

Treason and coup are real and could happen. Anger is growing, a conspiracy argument gaining ground, with Trumps approval. Is this what you want? There is a choice here. Trump is going for this, it is obvious.

It is also a conversation with the base. And the base are saying yes. Restoring the pride that was broken by the globalists......Hitler once in power used the same tricks, and eliminated the opposition in one night. It is no surprise this is exactly what some are calling for.

The Roman empire fell because generals took over from the senate. This is a point in history where this is coming together. The results are world wars, death on a scale not seen before and the end of freedom.

The rise of evil is historically inevitable unless good people stick with the system of resolving differences and loving ones neighbour.

God bless you

Ironic Trump's dictated America will be a dictatorship and not America and you will have brought it about. This was a golden age, and the chosen were going to ....... It up...... At least I could be a voice, speaking in the wilderness

 

[FollowHim]

Trump world - praise the leader, it's ok, say anything critical it's treason. Secret police everywhere to root out the deep state and globalists. Trials and executions everywhere to create the cleansed community.

This has happened in every revolution and coup. The danger is always if you hate your enemy this is where you end up. Jesus's way is the only way.

God bless you

Trouble is you and me soon become the enemy of this run away paranoid train, shot and left behind.......

 

[Taken]

Except for blaming George Floyd for his own murder nothing you've stated is applicable to what culminated as the crime of George Floyd's murder by officer Derek Chauvin.

It's amazing to me that you find disturbing "supporters of that corrupt mind-set and actions", after blaming George for Derek's actions that killed George Floyd. The police involved are charged with, murder!
And you're wrong!
Police DO NOT have a right to execute an illegal hold to subdue a citizen! That's why it is referred to as an illegal hold. And there are many. Choke hold is illegal, and this move by Chauvin, compressing Floyd's throat and back with Chauvin's body weight for 7:46minutes, is illegal!
Oh, and as you are unaware, George Floyd was handcuffed behind his back at the time and laying prone, on his stomach, on the roadway, at the time Chauvin executed the illegal hold. And continued to do so even when his victim was saying, I can't breathe.
Chauvin continued to compress Floyd's throat and back with his body weight well after George Floyd fell silent, which means he was unconscious. Definitely not posing a threat at that time.
That's murder! Because George Floyd presented no threat when in handcuffs and on his stomach.
And as an aside, if the move by Chauvin was legal, he wouldn't be on trial for murder.

Thou shalt not murder!

Please don't defend that egregious sin to me. And absolutely you should be ashamed in blaming the victim for being murdered. As if he deserved it.
Shame on you!

I have zero shame for what I said!
I mentioned no names.
I blamed no one.
I pointed out Police Officers have Authority to direct and order person's in the public.
I pointed out people make choices and consequences Follow choices people make.
I said Screaming in the streets and destroying others property, (and those who support THAT), I find disturbing.

You mentioned names.
You decided a conviction.
Yet, there has been no Trial. (Except the Pseudo Media trial!)

Then you make outrageous personal charges against me. THAT is amazing!

The specific people you mention, the Media "facts" you rely on, the conviction you have made, the personal accusations you have made against me.... are Irrelevant.

What is relevant ... IS lawlessness is rampant in this Nation, and the Media mouthpieces have become the:
Accuser, Law, Court, Jury, Judge, Executioner.

I ALSO Find THAT disturbing, and have no shame in saying so.

 

[Taken]

If someone is sane...

That's a BIG "IF"...lol
Laughable...since it is "men" who "decide" by personal "opinions" who "they" can "dictate" that claim "applies to another person".

has all the resources in the world to define the truth yet claims everyone is deceived and lying, they are just nuts.

•IMO, The TRUTH is DEFINED, in A Word; JESUS.
•IMO. LIARS are DEFINED, in A word;
MANKIND.
•IMO, one who can not distinguish the TRUTH from the LIE, IS Lost.

It is becoming clearer a political coup is hoped for.

Not a Secret. Not a revelation.
• POLITICS is the modern term of a Governments actions of Governance.
• POLITICIANS is the modern term for people who have made a CAREER, out of continually making an EFFORT to BE continually SITTING, IN A SEAT;
OF SERVICE....OR....DICTATION.

Bare Bones:
It is NOT a mystery...
"WHO" career "politicians" ARE.
It is NOT a mystery...
"WHO" "SERVES" and "WHO" "DICTATES".
It is not a mystery...
"WHO"...(of the People) Favors a DICTATOR.
"WHO"...(of the People) Favors a SERVANT.

By NAR believers too, who hold they have the authority to rule.

NAR- ?

The RCC ruled for centuries, Lutheran Calvanist groups also, but they all failed. The key was to separate church and state.

No baring on me. I was never under the "RULE" of the RCC.

In my area some churches attempted close shepherding but it fell apart. The apostles think they are ushering in Jesus, but it is just setting themselves up for a fall big time.

No clue what "shepherding" is in "your area".
No clue who you are defining "as apostles", or how you have concluded "any man" can "usher Jesus" to DO the Will of man.

If you want to destroy a movement,

Perhaps you should explicitly DEFINE "the movement" in YOUR thought...and let ME Decide and Express with My words...My thoughts.

Kenneth Copland, blew covid away, stopped hurricans, laughed at Trumps defeat.

I understand K. Copeland is some guy with a TV program. I don't watch TV. Don't know, Don't care who he is, what he says, or that he laughs.

 

[Addy]

That is quite possible. And it can be that they prefer to insult our nation and leadership because they prefer to ignore their own. And we can't discount the possibility that, per the prior thread about bad thoughts, that there are those who enjoy getting a rise out of the American by being critical of our president, country, government, for whatever reason or motive unique to that individual.

I always wonder about people who are foreign to this nation but focus on our government in a hyper-critical way.
I don't focus on the politic of Canada. And I use to live there as a student. I don't focus on the politic of Great Britain. Or any other nation. I don't live there.
Maybe that's what we're missing? Maybe the anti-Trumpeters are actually American's hoping to lend that impression that our president and governance looks really bad to other people in the world.
And it is actually still an assault on America, American's and of course themselves as citizens here.

Who knows why any people would obsess over another nations politics and ignore the international topic that would pertain to themselves as citizens of elsewhere.

As a Canadian... I guess according to this post... I am guilty as charged... I will admit that until Mr. Trump got into office... I had no clue about anyone's politics... including my own... I have never voted in my entire life... and I know nothing about how the government works... I like it that way. I have spent the last four years trying to figure out the mystery ( to me ) of the phenomenon of Mr. Trump being endorsed and backed up by a large group of evangelical Christians... In my little mind... politics and religion have nothing to do with each other.
I have heard many press conferences where Mr. Trump has spoken publicly... and that is where my dislike for him began and has ended...I have shared what I "think" of this man.... therefore there is no need to repeat it.

My purpose and interest in following this thread is actually with regards to these evangelical pastors/prophets... and nothing to do with the president.

My comments have been honest... and even though I am not well studied in politics... this is an open forum for all to participate in.
I am equally critical of my own country... and have stated my observations about what is WRONG with Canada... several times through out my comments. I am not attached to a piece of land... or a constitution made by people many years ago... I do not believe there is such a thing as
a Christian nation... and so I am watching.... and listening...

If indeed these prophets did NOT get it wrong... and this election is over-turned... I am open to changing my mind about the land called America.

So... I'm not sure when this midnight hour is... but according to several prophets... Mr. TRUMP will serve his second term... This is either truth or INSANITY.

 

[Ziggy]

 

[Ziggy]

BOOM!

 

[Taken]

...what days do you think we are living in right now ...

The last of days.

There are "sets" of last days.
THE last days, were foretold in the OT 3x's
THE last days, mentioned in the NT 3x's
THESE last days, mentioned in NT 1 time.

What Shall occur is Foretold.
As the Foretold comes to pass, it becomes a "sign" it HAS, IS occuring...and WHAT Foretold IS NEXT to BE expected, watched for coming to pass.

The UNFOLDING...Revealing of Prophecy coming to pass...HAS without Doubt, Great Effect UPON ALL People ..."IN" and "OF" the Whole World.
•Weather Disturbances, Earth Decaying, Crops/Food Corrupted, Rumors/Anxiety Rampant, Disease/ Death Increasing, Faith in God Decreasing...

Those "OF" the World...are in desperation.
Those "IN" the World...are in sorrows.

Those "OF" the World...BY ALL means Dictate their Plan and Attempt to Force the World TO "SAVE the World."

Those "IN" the World...WAIT for:
Fulfillment OF: prophecy, days, times and: HARVEST.

Matt 13
[39] The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

STAND UP and PRAISE THE KING
HE IS WITH US . HE ALONE is all we need . PRAISE HIS GLORIOUS NAME ,
TO LIVE IS CHRIST

AMEN!!!

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[mailmandan]

This year has really opened my eyes to just how corrupt our liberal politicians really are and also to the devastating reality of just how many domestic terrorists we have in our country (and fake Christians) who strongly support these liberal politicians. America is in deep trouble and this is not going to end well! 2021-2024 is going to be a long 4 years!

 

[FollowHim]

That's a BIG "IF"...lol
Laughable...since it is "men" who "decide" by personal "opinions" who "they" can "dictate" that claim "applies to another person".



•IMO, The TRUTH is DEFINED, in A Word; JESUS.
•IMO. LIARS are DEFINED, in A word;
MANKIND.
•IMO, one who can not distinguish the TRUTH from the LIE, IS Lost.



Not a Secret. Not a revelation.
• POLITICS is the modern term of a Governments actions of Governance.
• POLITICIANS is the modern term for people who have made a CAREER, out of continually making an EFFORT to BE continually SITTING, IN A SEAT;
OF SERVICE....OR....DICTATION.

Bare Bones:
It is NOT a mystery...
"WHO" career "politicians" ARE.
It is NOT a mystery...
"WHO" "SERVES" and "WHO" "DICTATES".
It is not a mystery...
"WHO"...(of the People) Favors a DICTATOR.
"WHO"...(of the People) Favors a SERVANT.



NAR- ?



No baring on me. I was never under the "RULE" of the RCC.



No clue what "shepherding" is in "your area".
No clue who you are defining "as apostles", or how you have concluded "any man" can "usher Jesus" to DO the Will of man.



Perhaps you should explicitly DEFINE "the movement" in YOUR thought...and let ME Decide and Express with My words...My thoughts.



I understand K. Copeland is some guy with a TV program. I don't watch TV. Don't know, Don't care who he is, what he says, or that he laughs.

Trump is an unusual guy. He is alone in so many regards, which is unusual for his ambitions and attributes.
He may well be just a kid pulling at levers, without really understanding what he is doing or the how.

I am beginning to see he has managed to attract a diverse group of people with complaints about the system, but without a cohesive agenda.
The common theme is probably complaint about the status quo but not actually knowing what to do about it.
Certainly Trumpism is just about MAGA and nothing else. Bit like an omlete without the egg. Sad to say the next far right guy is probably going to be something much more focused and Trump is just the warm up act. Like Xi Jinping took over China, Putin took over the Soviet Union, the US appears ripe for a strike to change its direction.

The christians involved in the stop the steal are clearly not representative of the diverse groups in the christian church, though they believe they are a majority etc. The majority are sitting here thinking who are these folk.... which bible have they been reading .....

God bless you

 

[JohnDB]

Well...
Maybe by January 20 the Republicans will finally admit that Joe Biden is president.

He may not be president for long...but he is the elected president. Kamala will get a turn too if something happens to Joe...and it's likely that something will.

Trump is not going to be able to remain in the White House.

 

[Grailhunter]

Well...
Maybe by January 20 the Republicans will finally admit that Joe Biden is president.

He may not be president for long...but he is the elected president. Kamala will get a turn too if something happens to Joe...and it's likely that something will.

Trump is not going to be able to remain in the White House.

Who is going to remove him?

 

[FollowHim]

Got to laugh.

Sidney Powells expert witness is an army mechanic who went on an intelligence training course and never finished.
He is convinced the Dominion machines are rigged, but now has withdrawn from the case.

The expert who said the drops of votes logged on the Dominion machines, has done an audit of the Tabulators and can find nothing wrong.
The Kraken does not exist or its consequences. It has all been self generated from conspiracy theories and now outrage at how competent people actually need real proof, and when this fails to arrive, dismiss the insane justification to overthrow the democratic process.

If people want a real conspiracy which is actual, it is China and its desire to take over and undermine the west in real ways, using any means at their disposal. And if Biden and his family are wrapped up in this, fine, but it is a separate issue from the election and fraud.

This demonstrates actually looking for evidence matters, and realising there are real threats and you do not need to invent other fraud ideas, and certainly not entertain a nutcase who cannot tell the difference between angry people mouthing off and actual threats.

God bless you

 

[FollowHim]

This year has really opened my eyes to just how corrupt our liberal politicians really are and also to the devastating reality of just how many domestic terrorists we have in our country (and fake Christians) who strongly support these liberal politicians. America is in deep trouble and this is not going to end well! 2021-2024 is going to be a long 4 years!

What? Politicians taking money from big business and interest groups, to turn the other way. No. Never happens.
Domestic terrorists? I suppose you are referring to Antifa and BLM.

One thing that stands out to outsiders is how americans can be armed like soldiers and just walk around like this is normal.
So it is hard for us to tell the difference between law abiding citizens and people expressing their freedom rights.
With all the talk about civil war, and being prepared to give ones life for the cause, sedition and insurrection seem to be on the agenda.

And to hear those who argue there is no problem with sinful behaviour God has forgiven it all no matter how you behave, suddenly morality appears when politics come about. Odd that, morality does not matter before God, but does if you are a politician.

God bless you

 

[lforrest]

Got to laugh.

Sidney Powells expert witness is an army mechanic who went on an intelligence training course and never finished.
He is convinced the Dominion machines are rigged, but now has withdrawn from the case.

The expert who said the drops of votes logged on the Dominion machines, has done an audit of the Tabulators and can find nothing wrong.
The Kraken does not exist or its consequences. It has all been self generated from conspiracy theories and now outrage at how competent people actually need real proof, and when this fails to arrive, dismiss the insane justification to overthrow the democratic process.

If people want a real conspiracy which is actual, it is China and its desire to take over and undermine the west in real ways, using any means at their disposal. And if Biden and his family are wrapped up in this, fine, but it is a separate issue from the election and fraud.

This demonstrates actually looking for evidence matters, and realising there are real threats and you do not need to invent other fraud ideas, and certainly not entertain a nutcase who cannot tell the difference between angry people mouthing off and actual threats.

God bless you

All one has to do to know how to cheat is to read the manuals for these machines. Or have access to the servers where the csvs are kept. One could potentially cheat on any level of the system. The statistically impossible Biden spikes happened on the server level. This is why Dominion people were connected to them with laptops. What sort of modern system uses csvs, that's technology from the 1970s.

Party loyalists from every level of society have aided in this treasonous coup, no doubt with the aid of communist governments.

 

[Taken]

Trump has lost.

You speak of Truth.
Then dictate your opinion, that has no baring of Truth.
Easy to NOT take you with serious consideration.

 

[lforrest]

The dominion machine adjudication system can also be abused to take batches that do not scan, or even blank ballots and set the votes to whomever the operator chooses. They can even be tossed.

The reason republicans were given sharpies in some areas was so their ballots would be sent to adjudication where they could be changed to Biden or discarded.

 

[FollowHim]

All one has to do to know how to cheat is to read the manuals for these machines. Or have access to the servers where the csvs are kept. One could potentially cheat on any level of the system. The statistically impossible Biden spikes happened on the server level. This is why Dominion people were connected to them with laptops. What sort of modern system uses csvs, that's technology from the 1970s.

Party loyalists from every level of society have aided in this treasonous coup, no doubt with the aid of communist governments.

There is a theoretical possibility what you are describing is true. But that is the point, you need evidence and you need to be able to trust the authorities who are holding the election. As far as number of ballots cast etc. the manual hand count check validates what the machines were doing.

I know from experience, without actually seeing the full process flow diagram to understand its vulnerability or robustness is impossible.
And this is what is causing the real issue. On their side they are saying everything is good. What people are left with is the testimonies and guesses which as can be seen are corrosive. What has become clear, is actual signature matching was not a requirement in parts of the election, though some people assumed this was true. And other previous checks were removed.

Whatever the result, the team that confirms or highlights the issues will face the same barrage of taunts of fraud. And this is the problem with all elections. I doubt in reality the republicans want a clean clear election with 100% voter identification and audit, because that involves voter ID, electronic verification and tracking, which people say is an invasion of their privacy. So in summary, without evidence which a court can examine and make a judgement on, you have to suck it.

Ask yourself. If you could be known with finger prints etc. that you were you, and that you voted, and you could check your vote, would that make you happy. I for one would 100% be ok with this, because it is part of our right that people have died to keep going.
If this can guarantee voter security and identification, avoid voter tampering and fraudulent submissions, end of story.
Do you truly want to preserve the democracies of the west, or are they now just a block to a theocracy, with imposed morality and harsh punishments?

What for me is telling is how the work to help people defend themselves in court with evidence gathering, witness statements, corroboration evidence presentation, has literally helped innocent people prove their case in court, where otherwise they end up in jail or a plea bargain.
Again, the fact signature verification was ignored in this election is a farce. The result is actually not important, because it has little to defend it.
Trump again is just a problem in the way. You need decent verifiable voting or you get the mess that was this election.

If you can securely have your bank account on your mobile, you can 100% also have secure voting on your mobile phone.
It is now true, almost everyone has a mobile phone. Yet voting is still paper based. Now that is absurd to say the least.

God bless you

 

[FollowHim]

You speak of Truth.
Then dictate your opinion, that has no baring of Truth.
Easy to NOT take you with serious consideration.

Trump has lost. This is a present tense statement.
If one wants Trump to win, you have to discount the current vote and replace it with something else.

If one wants to say Trump won in the minds of some of the electorate, because they discount the validity of the vote that is the truth.
Delusion is obvious when stating the current situation is called not speaking the truth.

In every award ceremony, mistakes can be made, awards taken back, and then given to someone else.
I know of a wife whose husband died from cancer but because he believed he was healed, he did not die.
In a sense going to be with the Lord is not dying, but clearly his faith was that he would not physically die which he did.

Now if Trump is made president because of a coup, that is not winning, that is a coup.
When did the USA and Americans become scared of the truth and openness?

If ones yes is not yes and no is not no, then following Jesus is no longer part of the discussion.

God bless you