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Pope embraces Islam. Calls it Chrislam
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Patrick1966
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Illuminator
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He has no point. Pate is an angry anti-trinitarian anti-Protestant Hislopite whose religion is Catholic bashing.
The thread title is a lie, the Pope does not embrace or endorse Islam. He talks with Islamic leaders in an atmosphere of respect which facilitates the ending of senseless killing of Christians. Pate can't see the forest for the trees.
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ButterflyJones
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The pope didn't invent the term, Chrislam. That occurred in 1970 in Nigeria.
However, the Pope is an Ecumenist.
Rick Warren embraced its tenets for awhile. If I remember the timeline correctly, he started a backtrack denial campaign shortly after his son's suicide.
carm.org
However, the Pope is an Ecumenist.
Rick Warren embraced its tenets for awhile. If I remember the timeline correctly, he started a backtrack denial campaign shortly after his son's suicide.
What is Chrislam?
In this article, Chrislam's origins and teachings are explained. It is a combination of Christianity and Islam and is a false movement.
carm.org
God knows who worship him in spirit and in truth.
Some people may have yet to meet christ; but if they are seeking out God who made the universe knowing their place compared to Him.
I imagine there are many people out there in these places who are christian and dont even know it, amazing how many people doubt the working power of God.
Could be even jehovah witness, mormon, muslim…
Just know that God does speak to humanity through the created universe. And though religions abound; there are those who seek to worship God in spirit and in truth;
So if a person is humble and not religious or they are humble but do religous things,
They just might have the spirit of christ in them and not even know it; but they know the change of heart; that was given.
God is very amazing, and not hindered by man, or by Satan.
The good news is seen through nature,
Trees lose their leaves and grow back - they change colors in fall. That would be a death, burial (change), resurrection (new life next spring).
The sun goes away and comes back.
The moon goes away, and changes, and comes back.
There are many things to consider like the stars that people say shine from the past, and if they go away snd come back, and change during the seasons? Isnt that the good news in nature? Life goes on past there.
Thats the danger of limiting God… (everyone is hell bound - according to them) but not all of those people deny the existence of the whom created it all, and wasnt that the Word which was given the power to create?
Just good things to think about.
Some people may have yet to meet christ; but if they are seeking out God who made the universe knowing their place compared to Him.
I imagine there are many people out there in these places who are christian and dont even know it, amazing how many people doubt the working power of God.
Could be even jehovah witness, mormon, muslim…
Just know that God does speak to humanity through the created universe. And though religions abound; there are those who seek to worship God in spirit and in truth;
So if a person is humble and not religious or they are humble but do religous things,
They just might have the spirit of christ in them and not even know it; but they know the change of heart; that was given.
God is very amazing, and not hindered by man, or by Satan.
The good news is seen through nature,
Trees lose their leaves and grow back - they change colors in fall. That would be a death, burial (change), resurrection (new life next spring).
The sun goes away and comes back.
The moon goes away, and changes, and comes back.
There are many things to consider like the stars that people say shine from the past, and if they go away snd come back, and change during the seasons? Isnt that the good news in nature? Life goes on past there.
Thats the danger of limiting God… (everyone is hell bound - according to them) but not all of those people deny the existence of the whom created it all, and wasnt that the Word which was given the power to create?
Just good things to think about.
You don't know me, nor do you know what I believe.
The Gospel of Jesus Christ condemns all religions. We are saved and justified by faith alone, because we are saved and justified by Christ alone. Jesus justifies the ungodly, Romans 3:26 and reconciles them unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18-19. No Catholic religion needed.
ButterflyJones
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I have been called a lot of things, but never calcite. You must be a vegetarian.
ButterflyJones
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What?I did not call you that. I was expounding on what someone called you.
Further, Calcite is a mineral, CaCO3, that is what helps to form rocks.
Maybe that other members personal attack upon you , including the reference to you're being a bright green form of that Calcite was their way of labeling you a hard head?
ButterflyJones
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We shall see about that.
I am no defender of the RCC. It is not a Christian institution, imo. However, while I've called out Trolls here, your rant is over the line. And if it does not qualify as a personal attack of @Robert Pate, that charge cannot be brought against anyone far less venemous in their vitriol.
Have you shared this website brother? Is there proof that the Pope said this?
Hi Robert, I took back my like. I've got a"like" addiction
lolYes I do believe many someones would phony up a website to make Catholics look bad. And I would guess it's the same, the other way around.
As for your second post, second half, I would disagree. I find Catholics (I was born and raised Catholic) to be extreemely reverent. I do not believe many of their doctrines or traditions of men. But they are very reverent which is honorable...which I have not at all been in this thread. It really should be locked as it violates the rule of bashing another's faith.
So fair warning, anymore of it and someone will shut it down.
I love you guys!
ButterflyJones
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Here's the thing.
It isn't a matter of opinion. It is a matter of God telling us what's up. If we accept the Bible contains his messages to us.
And this means everyone is Hell bound!
Unless!
As Jesus, who was God bringing his message in person, told us.
No one comes to him unless the he, the father, leads us. And not everyone is meant to receive the message as to how this is accomplished unless Jesus/the father, intends them to understand.
This is not Calvinism. This is taking God at his word.
God wrote the name of every person to be saved before the creation of this world. Before Eden, Adam and Eve, the forbidden tree.
That's foreordination.
We can't understand God's leading us to his salvation in our natural minded fallen state. The Gospel, the Bible, is foolishness to us when we are in that state of mind.
Only God leading us to himself, by his entering in and changing our consciousness so to understand his leading, his Gospel, is how we become saved.
God chose us. We do not choose, cannot in our natural minded fallen state, choose him..
All of this is scripture.
So darned if they do and darned if they don't. Looks like you can't say anything.
Robert, at the beginning of this thread, you kinda asked a question--you didn't say it was definitive, which others have done many times before, and folks started chiming in, and the whole thing went downhill from there.
I wouldn't even bother.
Robert, at the beginning of this thread, you kinda asked a question--you didn't say it was definitive, which others have done many times before, and folks started chiming in, and the whole thing went downhill from there.
I wouldn't even bother.
The only thing that resembles Catholicism is Pharisaism.
All religions are based upon law. Law is what religious people do. Paul said, "Therefore, by the deeds of the law (what we do) no flesh will be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin" Romans 3:20.
Paul also said, "The letter (law) kills, but the spirit gives life" 2 Corinthians 3:6. The Spirit is the Gospel. In the Gospel we have ALREADY been reconciled to God by Jesus Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:17-18. We are Already complete "In Christ" Colossians 2:10. No laws, rules or religion needed.
Maybe this is why Paul said, "The just shall live by faith" Romans 1:17 and not by rules, laws and religion.
All religions are based upon law. Law is what religious people do. Paul said, "Therefore, by the deeds of the law (what we do) no flesh will be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin" Romans 3:20.
Paul also said, "The letter (law) kills, but the spirit gives life" 2 Corinthians 3:6. The Spirit is the Gospel. In the Gospel we have ALREADY been reconciled to God by Jesus Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:17-18. We are Already complete "In Christ" Colossians 2:10. No laws, rules or religion needed.
Maybe this is why Paul said, "The just shall live by faith" Romans 1:17 and not by rules, laws and religion.
ButterflyJones
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That post is what we call thread kindling. Adding fuel to the fire.
No, the OP didn't kinda ask a question.
The OP by its content assured this thread would invite conflict by conflating Christianity with Isla.
And the closing sentence further demonstrates no query was implied in the OP when we're to go to Google to learn more about what Robert stated, not asked.
The thread title doesn't even imply a question. And obviously so because this is absent, ?.
"I wouldn't even bother." See post #54.
What's the big fuss? It is common knowledge that the pope is trying to bring all religions together under the umbrella of the Catholic church, even cults that do not believe that Jesus is the Christ.
Hello @ButterflyJones
The scripture is wonderful and awesome, you wont be able to deny God's existences through nature though. You can't tell me that God doesn't know those who worship him in spirit and in truth. Before the Gospels were written down, people taught by mouth, and those who never heard, only had the skies to look at.
Therefore while you can believe the way you do, that is all fine, but the 'scripture' as you claim would say that God, and the good news is founded with-in nature itself.
All one has to do is be humble looking at it; and comparing themselves knowing that there is one greater than them.
The scripture is wonderful and awesome, you wont be able to deny God's existences through nature though. You can't tell me that God doesn't know those who worship him in spirit and in truth. Before the Gospels were written down, people taught by mouth, and those who never heard, only had the skies to look at.
Therefore while you can believe the way you do, that is all fine, but the 'scripture' as you claim would say that God, and the good news is founded with-in nature itself.
All one has to do is be humble looking at it; and comparing themselves knowing that there is one greater than them.
ButterflyJones
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You're welcome to believe as you do.
I'll take God at his word. Because if I add to it or rework it to fit my preference, I am not then believing God's word. I'm believing in mine.
Thank you for liberty in Christ, may the God of comfort be with you, Jones.
ButterflyJones
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