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Pope Francis has formally approved allowing priests to bless same-sex couples, with a new document explaining a radical change in Vatican policy by insisting that people seeking God’s love and mercy shouldn’t be subject to “an exhaustive moral analysis” to receive it.


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Pope Francis has formally approved allowing priests to bless same-sex couples, with a new document explaining a radical change in Vatican policy by insisting that people seeking God’s love and mercy shouldn’t be subject to “an exhaustive moral analysis” to receive it.


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This at face value seems immoral, undiscerning and as a Christian, objectionable at best.
Being a Pope is being a Vicar of Christ. As Christ came the 1ST time, not to condemn, but as the Prince of Peace, to offer salvation, love all, even your enemies and bless them, the Pope feels he was passed this baton. Accepting everyone where they are is his position, not as a judge. So pronouncing a blessing is a prayer. This does not mean that God will not judge them. I guess the Catholics figure Purgatory will burn off their sins? Priests pray for and bless the Mafia heads too and every other sinner! How is that different? They go to confession, believe in God, then do their criminal dealings: murder, pillage and plunder during the week - then what ... go to confession and their sins are wiped away? Catholics sin, confess and continue to sin more ...
Hasn't the Pope always opened his arms to all other religions too, meeting with Hindus, Buddhists, even Muslims? He may pray for them too. It does not mean God will not judge them. I guess the bottom line is he is spreading the Good News not the Bad news.
Salvation is available, then the Holy Spirit either works in your life ... or not. If they are opening the door, that Jesus stands and knocks on, well, it's a start. Maybe something will happen latter IF the Holy Spirt is truly working in their lives? If not, it doesn't matter anyways.
We have to keep in mind that we are all sinners and sanctification is not only instant, but a continuos process. Maybe they will gradually die to their old selves? Maybe they will come to Romans 1:26-27 and it will impact them?
 

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This at face value seems immoral, undiscerning and as a Christian, objectionable at best.
Being a Pope is being a Vicar of Christ. As Christ came the 1ST time, not to condemn, but as the Prince of Peace, to offer salvation, love all, even your enemies and bless them, the Pope feels he was passed this baton. Accepting everyone where they are is his position, not as a judge. So pronouncing a blessing is a prayer. This does not mean that God will not judge them. I guess the Catholics figure Purgatory will burn off their sins? Priests pray for and bless the Mafia heads too and every other sinner! How is that different? They go to confession, believe in God, then do their criminal dealings: murder, pillage and plunder during the week - then what ... go to confession and their sins are wiped away? Catholics sin, confess and continue to sin more ...
Hasn't the Pope always opened his arms to all other religions too, meeting with Hindus, Buddhists, even Muslims? He may pray for them too. It does not mean God will not judge them. I guess the bottom line is he is spreading the Good News not the Bad news.
Salvation is available, then the Holy Spirit either works in your life ... or not. If they are opening the door, that Jesus stands and knocks on, well, it's a start. Maybe something will happen latter IF the Holy Spirt is truly working in their lives? If not, it doesn't matter anyways.
We have to keep in mind that we are all sinners and sanctification is not only instant, but a continuos process. Maybe they will gradually die to their old selves? Maybe they will come to Romans 1:26-27 and it will impact them?
I think a good question for Francis in this case would be, how can you bless the sin God judges abomination? When God shall judge them and you after.
 
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I think a good question for Francis in this case would be, how can you bless the sin God judges abomination? When God shall judge them and you after.
He prays for the sinner, doesn't concern himself with the sin. Jesus died for our sins. So his hope is that they will turn from the abomination before God lets them go. Now it could be that God already let them go, but he doesn't know that. God is merciful at times ... surprises us in the 11th hour. Some are pulled into His light just minutes before their death.
 
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I guess the bottom line is he is spreading the Good News not the Bad news.
To my thinking, he is spreading very dangerous news, that these things are OK, that the church can bless them, God will bless them, everything is OK, just go on living as you wish, you can be Mr. and Mr, with our blessing!

To me it's just no good!

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To my thinking, he is spreading very dangerous news, that these things are OK, that the church can bless them, God will bless them, everything is OK, just go on living as you wish, you can be Mr. and Mr, with our blessing!

To me it's just no good!

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I hear you, but still; I do not think he advocates homoswxuality. Even condone is a strong word that misrepresents his intentions. He is just praying for them and showing them love where they are. It is not for him to cast them out with no hope. He is also aware that currently and in the past, some priests are homosexual. It has been a major stress and conundrum for them. What can one man do to change all their hearts? I would say fire them as soon as there is proof. Do they stop, are they forgiven? I really never looked into how they've dealt with those priests. I spoke to a Catholic Priest once and asked him about it. He said, there was a very small percentage, very few out-of thousands - bad apples in the bunch that they all suffer for.
I guess I am less judgmental towards someone who sacrificed their life for Christ and His Church, regardless of my disagreements with some of their doctrines. Some Protestants really hate Catholics, even think the Pope is the Antichrist and Catholism, the apostate church! Frankly, I am more judgmental towards them.
What if the Pope said, "YOU ALL ARE REPROBATES AND NOT ALLOWED IN OUR CHURCH ... HERE, READ ALL THE SCRIPTURES THAT PERTAIN TO YOUR SIN ... YOU ARE AN ABOMINATION TO GOD ...TO HELL WITH YOU AND TORTURE FOR ETERNITY!" Would you prefer the Pope said that? That would be more of a shock.
 
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I hear you, but still; I do not think he advocates homoswxuality. Even condone is a string word that misrepresents his intentions. He is just praying for them and showing them love where they are. It is not for him to cast them out with no hope. He is also aware that currently and in the past, some priests are homosexual. It has been a major stress and conundrum for them. What can one man do to change all their hearts? I would say fire them as soon as there is proof. Do they stop, are they forgiven? I really never looked into how they've dealt with those priests. I spoke to a Catholic Priest once and asked him about it. He said, there was a very small percentage, very few out-of thousands - bad apples in the bunch that they all suffer for.
I guess I am less judgmental towards someone who sacrificed their life for Christ and His Church, regardless of my disagreements with some of their doctrines. Some Protestants really hate Catholics, even think the Pope is the Antichrist and Catholism, the apostate church! Frankly, I am more judgmental towards them.
What if the Pope said, "YOU ALL ARE REPROBATES AND NOT ALLOWED IN OUR CHURCH ... HERE, READ ALL THE SCRIPTURES THAT PERTAIN TO YOUR SIN ... YOU ARE AN ABOMINATION TO GOD ...TO HELL WITH YOU AND TORTURE FOR ETERNITY!" Would you prefer the Pope said that? That would be more of a shock.
Yea if you read the article closely, it's more like "Look if you approach us for our blessing, I say it's okay to give it, however let's just be clear that this isn't a marriage and just to make sure that no one is confused, we're not gonna give the blessing at the same time as a civil union ceremony
 
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He prays for the sinner, doesn't concern himself with the sin. Jesus died for our sins. So his hope is that they will turn from the abomination before God lets them go. Now it could be that God already let them go, but he doesn't know that. God is merciful at times ... surprises us in the 11th hour. Some are pulled into His light just minutes before their death.
You know Ronald David Bruno
The world is going to hell in a handbasket.
Do you know why?
Because of persons that reason the way YOU do....
Incorrectly.

Jesus NEVER said to condone sin.

Listen to this.
FOR EVIL TO PROSPER
ALL THAT IS NECESSARY
IS FOR GOOD TO DO NOTHING.

So, you not only DO NOTHING...
You actually condone the blessing of sin.

Time to wake up....

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Do you know why?
Because of persons that reason the way YOU do....
Incorrectly.
The world is becoming more evil because people are not following Jesus. They are going their own way. And this has happened all throughout history. The Jews for a generation were obedient and then became corrupted. Back and forth, blessings for awhile, then punishment, peace, then wars and slavery, then back again. The times we live in and the end is prophesied. God is sovereign and has it in check. I will not effect or alter the outcome. He has prepared works for each of us to do and His works will be done. This is what gives me comfort.
You think the world is becoming evil because of me, my reasoning and lack of responding? You would rather judge and hate me and the Pope - blame us. Your name does not fit, GodsGrace? People who judge usually do not have much grace.
 

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The world is becoming more evil because people are not following Jesus. They are going their own way. And this has happened all throughout history. The Jews for a generation were obedient and then became corrupted. Back and forth, blessings for awhile, then punishment, peace, then wars and slavery, then back again. The times we live in and the end is prophesied. God is sovereign and has it in check. I will not effect or alter the outcome. He has prepared works for each of us to do and His works will be done. This is what gives me comfort.
You think the world is becoming evil because of me, my reasoning and lack of responding? You would rather judge and hate me and the Pope - blame us. Your name does not fit, GodsGrace? People who judge usually do not have much grace.
Had to go back and read what you had posted.
Yes. It seems to me that you're giving the Pope a pass.
Does he DESERVE a pass?
If the church doesn't stand up for Christian moral values,,,who will?
We've degenerated into a society that allows practically everything that is NOT holy.
Holy...,.set aside for service to God.
No. We like to serve the secular world instead.

So this has happened all throughout history...
so that makes the acceptance of all evil okay?
You accept when you DO NOT REFUTE.

You seem like a young guy....guess you don't remember how all this extreme woke stuff started.
It started about 50 to 60 years ago and the church DID NOTHING to counter it.

You say YOU cannot alter the outcome.
Great. This is my whole point.
So we sit back and wait for everything to just happen?
Is this what Paul told the Thessalonians to do?
They were waiting for Jesus to come back to....they had even stopped going to work.
Paul told them to GET ON WITH THEIR LIVES.
To DO what they HAD TO DO.

I don't hate you or the Pope.
Can only reply to you as to what you post here.
But I know this Pope and I know he's changing the CC and is contributing to changing
the world as a whole --- and change is not always good.

And, yes, I blame you to the extent that you don't understand that EACH PERSON COUNTS.
You don't just lie on the asphalt and wait for the tanker to roll over you.
You stand up for what you believe in.

I'd like a MORAL world for my children and my grandchildren once I'm gone.
I'd like we Christians to STAND UP for our values...instead of allowing the world
to trample over them.

Did you see the opening of the Olympics?
Did you like it?
Are you WATCHING the Olympics?

Nuff said.
 
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. It seems to me that you're giving the Pope a pass.
If we believe in Jesus, we get a pass, we are forgiven. Didn't you get one?
You seem like a young guy....guess you don't remember how all this extreme woke stuff started.
68 and I detest the woke, liberal mindset, it is part of what is destroying the USA.
And, yes, I blame you to the extent that you don't understand that EACH PERSON COUNTS
The Holy Spirit prepares each individual for work to do within His overall plan and so we do. Is your calling to judge and rebuke others, especially someone who has sacrificed and devoted their lives to Christ. How much time has the Pope or priest for that matter spent in scripture and serving others? Lots. Have you sacrificed and devoted more than them???
>> Oh, I get it now, looking at your profile ... you live in Tuscany. Must be difficult for being surrounded by Roman Catholics ... in your family too? So this fuels your fire moreso being in such close proximity, so you rebel..It's a constant negative thorn in your side that eats away at you.
Forgive others and be released from that bondage. You will find peace and grace in mercy and forgiveness. Christ rebuked the Pharisees for their lack of mercy and forgiveness. Don't be legalistic like they were pointing their holy fingers at everyone in judgment. (See Matt. 9:10-13).
* I have always dreamed of visiting Italy, a beautiful place; but it is not in my budget. I am half Italian. My father always wanted to visit too. His parents were from Calabria, which probably many Brunos originate. Gee, if only I was younger, you could invite me over and show me around - if you could forgive my different perspective? Lol
I'd like a MORAL world for my children and my grandchildren once I'm gone.
I'd like we Christians to STAND UP for our values...instead of allowing the world
to trample over them
You will be gone soon and so will they; since I believe this is the end times and last generation to soon (if not already) experience tye Great Tribulation and Second Coming of Christ. Your judgment or any one elses is futile. JESUS ALONE WILL JUDGE THE WORLD.
But evidently you are standing up, protesting with you message on hand attacking fellow Christians ( whom Catholics are). Why don't you spendthrift time more righteously and speak out against anti-Christs instead. 2/3 ofthe world are not on board with Christ.
 

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If we believe in Jesus, we get a pass, we are forgiven. Didn't you get one?

I can only forgive a person that does wrong to ME.
The Pope did nothing personally to ME.
And no, I cannot forgive any "religious" leader that is running his church into the ground.
Which is what this Pope is doing.

68 and I detest the woke, liberal mindset, it is part of what is destroying the USA.

Good. So we agree.
So what do you think of the leader of ANY denominations that teaches AGAINST biblical principles?
The Episcopalian church in England is doing the same.
We just accept and don't even complain??

The Holy Spirit prepares each individual for work to do within His overall plan and so we do. Is your calling to judge and rebuke others,

Ronald, Jesus Himself said that we are to bring some before the church. Matthew 16 I believe.
IF we bring someone before the elders, it means we have JUDGED that person.
And yes, if someone tells me something really weird, which is happening these days, I DO push back and tell them MY opinion also because God's moral values MUST BE HEARD.

So what do YOU do?
Someone tells you a family is ANY 2 OR 3 persons living together and you just don't say anything?

especially someone who has sacrificed and devoted their lives to Christ. How much time has the Pope or priest for that matter spent in scripture and serving others? Lots. Have you sacrificed and devoted more than them???

Oops. Now you're judging.
How do you know who has sacrificed what?
Or for what reason?
You don't.

And ANYONE who is contributing to IMMORAL values must be held to the fire.
I don't really care who it is.

>> Oh, I get it now, looking at your profile ... you live in Tuscany. Must be difficult for being surrounded by Roman Catholics ... in your family too? So this fuels your fire moreso being in such close proximity, so you rebel..It's a constant negative thorn in your side that eats away at you.

I sure hope you're not a psychologist!
But it gave me a good chuckle.
I not only attend a Catholic church but am heavily involved in it.
How do you think I know about what's going on with the Pope....
Most conservative Catholics do not care for him.
Yes,,,even the ones that live in my town...
Are you even Catholic....
Do you even care what the CC is doing.

Forgive others and be released from that bondage. You will find peace and grace in mercy and forgiveness. Christ rebuked the Pharisees for their lack of mercy and forgiveness. Don't be legalistic like they were pointing their holy fingers at everyone in judgment. (See Matt. 9:10-13).

Thanks for the lesson Ronald.
I think I knew it even before.
Could you stick to the topic and not get so personal?

* I have always dreamed of visiting Italy, a beautiful place; but it is not in my budget. I am half Italian. My father always wanted to visit too. His parents were from Calabria, which probably many Brunos originate. Gee, if only I was younger, you could invite me over and show me around - if you could forgive my different perspective? Lol

Why would you have to be younger?
Calabria is a beautiful part of Italy....crystal clear water.
I'd be happy to show you around.
Not all my friends agree with everything I believe.
My own son-in-law loves this Pope.
Of course, he doesn't keep up with the happenings in Rome...
which is true of most Catholics.

You will be gone soon and so will they; since I believe this is the end times and last generation to soon (if not already) experience tye Great Tribulation and Second Coming of Christ. Your judgment or any one elses is futile. JESUS ALONE WILL JUDGE THE WORLD.
But evidently you are standing up, protesting with you message on hand attacking fellow Christians ( whom Catholics are). Why don't you spendthrift time more righteously and speak out against anti-Christs instead. 2/3 ofthe world are not on board with Christ.
You don't seem to have understood anything I've said.
I'm not attacking fellow Christians...
Not attacking Catholics...

I'm attacking THIS POPE.
Who fits your description of the 2/3 of the world that are not on board with Christ.

Why protect him if you don't even understand what I'm saying or what he's doing??
 

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And ANYONE who is contributing to IMMORAL values must be held to the fire.
The fire is in The Lake of Fire. But why would you think the Pope contributes to immorality? Because He doesn't directly condemn sinners?
I not only attend a Catholic church but am heavily involved in it.
How do you think I know about what's going on with the Pope....
Most conservative Catholics do not care for him.
Oh, forgive me, I had you pegged wrong. Most folks on this forum who speak against the Pope are usually anti- Catholic as well and I have a problem with that. You must know many Catholicd who condemn Protestants? I am a Protestant, just in title though. I do not protest, (march outside the Catholic church with a sign and list of things wrong with it.) Should I hold them to the fire? No point.
And no, I cannot forgive any "religious" leader that is running his church into the ground.
I wouldn't know about that. I just commented on the OP generally. It's my perspective. I have read other statements of the Pope making derogatory comments (with an element of discust) about the homosexuality among priests with the Church.
> From BBC News: "When asked at the Italian Bishops’ Conference if gay men should now be allowed to train for the priesthood as long as they remained celibate, Pope Francis said they should not.
He is then believed to have continued by saying in Italian that there was, in the Church, already too much of an air of frociaggine, which translates as a highly offensive slur."


If He knows who they are, fire them all why not? I don't know.
Sometimes I believe a person remains passive because they don't want to rock the boat ...
or throw people overboard to drown. It is a quandary for Him. ???
IF we bring someone before the elders, it means we have JUDGED that person.
So will you be bringing the Pope before the elders? Or just venting on a forum?
I'm attacking THIS POPE.
Who fits your description of the 2/3 of the world that are not on board with Christ.
I disagree. He is a devout Christian, spent his life following Christ. I guess you think those who appointed him were wrong because he is a fraud?
Are you aware of the Prophecy of Saint Malachy? The last Pope ( of the list of 112 prophesied), was to be called Peter.

Pope #107 was given the title, Pastor et Nauta ( pastor and marine). Before Pope John XXIII was elected, he was Patriarch of Venice, a marine city.
Pope #109 had the description: " De medietate Lunae ( of the half moon). John Paul I was elected Aug. 26, 1978, during a half moon and reigned one month til the next half moon.
Pope #110 was given the description, "De labor Solis" ( of the eclipse of the sun or from the labor if the sun). John Paul II (my favorite) was born during a solar eclipse and died during a solar eclipse.
Pope #111 was described as " Gloria Olivae" (glory of the olives). Pope Benedict XVI took the name Benedict to honor Benedict XV,a Pope of peace of the Benedictine Order called the Olivetans. Pope Benedict XV prophesied that the last Pope (this one, Francis) would lead the church to fight evil before the end times!
Now the interesting thing about Francis of Assisi ( whom thencurrent Pope honored and took his name from) is that his name was not Francis when he was born. No, his father was away in France when he was born,
Giovanni di Pietro di Bernardone.
You see his father, Pietro, was not religious and since he wasn't there at his birth, did not name him, his mother did. When he found out, he was quite upset and changed it to Francis. I guess he held animosity towards the Church. Technically, he was baptized and recognized as Giovanni di Pietro di Bernardone in God's eyes. Therefore, this current Pope, one can argue, may be prophetically viewed by St. MALACHY, as Pope Peter. The question is who does God refer to Francis of Assisi as?
 

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The fire is in The Lake of Fire. But why would you think the Pope contributes to immorality? Because He doesn't directly condemn sinners?

I stated why.
Maybe you just don't want to understand.
SAME SEX COUPLE BLESSINGS:
Blessing a person who is in a same sex relationship IS CONDONING SINFUL BEHAVIOR.
That is prohibited from scripture...
Scripture the Pope of the Catholic religion should be aware of.

Oh, forgive me, I had you pegged wrong. Most folks on this forum who speak against the Pope are usually anti- Catholic as well and I have a problem with that. You must know many Catholicd who condemn Protestants? I am a Protestant, just in title though. I do not protest, (march outside the Catholic church with a sign and list of things wrong with it.) Should I hold them to the fire? No point.
You could start a new thread on the above.

I wouldn't know about that.

If you "wouldn't know about that"
which is what this thread is all about....
The Pope running the CC into the ground...

THEN
WHY do you have such respect for him if you don't even know what he is doing?

I just commented on the OP generally. It's my perspective. I have read other statements of the Pope making derogatory comments (with an element of discust) about the homosexuality among priests with the Church.
> From BBC News: "When asked at the Italian Bishops’ Conference if gay men should now be allowed to train for the priesthood as long as they remained celibate, Pope Francis said they should not.
He is then believed to have continued by saying in Italian that there was, in the Church, already too much of an air of frociaggine, which translates as a highly offensive slur."

Confusing isn't he?
Yes. This is part of his problem.
Never states anything really clearly....
but we have a lot in writing and that's what counts.

BTW, a GOOD leader is very clear in what his organization stands for.

Only took 7 to 10 days to condemn the opening ceremony of the Olympics too.
Better late than never, I guess.

And as to homosexual priests....
yes...the CC has enough.
Isn't that what Protestants argue about?
So, on this, I'd have to actually agree with him.


If He knows who they are, fire them all why not? I don't know.
Sometimes I believe a person remains passive because they don't want to rock the boat ...
or throw people overboard to drown. It is a quandary for Him. ???

Jesus rocked the boat.
He died for it.

So will you be bringing the Pope before the elders? Or just venting on a forum?
Just venting on a forum.
And aintcha glad?
That's why YOU have persons to vent to also!!

I disagree. He is a devout Christian, spent his life following Christ. I guess you think those who appointed him were wrong because he is a fraud?
Are you aware of the Prophecy of Saint Malachy? The last Pope ( of the list of 112 prophesied), was to be called Peter.

You're entitled to your opinion.

Pope #107 was given the title, Pastor et Nauta ( pastor and marine). Before Pope John XXIII was elected, he was Patriarch of Venice, a marine city.
Pope #109 had the description: " De medietate Lunae ( of the half moon). John Paul I was elected Aug. 26, 1978, during a half moon and reigned one month til the next half moon.
Pope #110 was given the description, "De labor Solis" ( of the eclipse of the sun or from the labor if the sun). John Paul II (my favorite) was born during a solar eclipse and died during a solar eclipse.
Pope #111 was described as " Gloria Olivae" (glory of the olives). Pope Benedict XVI took the name Benedict to honor Benedict XV,a Pope of peace of the Benedictine Order called the Olivetans. Pope Benedict XV prophesied that the last Pope (this one, Francis) would lead the church to fight evil before the end times!
Now the interesting thing about Francis of Assisi ( whom thencurrent Pope honored and took his name from) is that his name was not Francis when he was born. No, his father was away in France when he was born,
Giovanni di Pietro di Bernardone.
You see his father, Pietro, was not religious and since he wasn't there at his birth, did not name him, his mother did. When he found out, he was quite upset and changed it to Francis. I guess he held animosity towards the Church. Technically, he was baptized and recognized as Giovanni di Pietro di Bernardone in God's eyes. Therefore, this current Pope, one can argue, may be prophetically viewed by St. MALACHY, as Pope Peter. The question is who does God refer to Francis of Assisi as?
Not interested in the above....
and unless you have something new to add,
I'd say this conversation is over.
 

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Not interested in the above....
and unless you have something new to add,
I'd say this conversation is over.
So what ... does this mean I get no invite to Tuscany? Awe shucks.

I don't know the full spectrum of responsibilities that a Pope has on a daily basis; the endless amount of problems, ministries and missions that require his attention, his concerns, his praying without ceasing about all of it. You have no concept of what it is like to have the weight of a billion people looking to you for guidance on his shoulders. I mean I don't, I am guided by the Holy Spirit and we all are. But he is called the Vicar of Christ. I would imagine he devotes his time to things that he feels are more important. Loving all and spreading the Gospel.
For instance, a comment about the Olympics gets a response after seven days. I guess the things he was focusing on for the first six were more important. ? He certainly is not capable of talking someone out of homosexuality. I have known a few gays on my life - there is no talking them out of their lifestyle. If they come out it is the Lord's work and He has never used me in that ministry.
Here is where you are fail to discern the Big Picture. Romans 13:1 says that God appoints all authorities in government, in the Church and every significant position. He is sovereign. Evidently YOU are displeased with His decision - take itnup with Him. The Pope was chosen by God for a purpose.

WHY do you have such respect for him if you don't even know what he is doing?
Not tremendous respect, just I admire priests, pastors, nuns, missionaries who devote much or all of their lives to serve the Lord. It's more than I do. I don't pay much attention to this Pope. He seems more liberal, as you say. I liked Pope John Paul II, read his book, " Crossing the Threshold of Hope" - a great book ... a great mind, heart and spiritual leader.
 
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This "love all-rebuke none" is unscriptural.
 
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GodsGrace

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This kosmou is on it's merry way going to Hell.
This "love all-rebuke none" is unscriptural.
Agreed.
But, as you can see, some that don't even understand what this Pope is doing and how he's contributing to secular systems - by their very own words - still want to have an opinion...
And, an opinion that goes contrary to everything Jesus taught.

So a priest, according to some, is just fine because he's a priest.
Well, I know a few priests, and I know for sure that this is not true.

Enough bashing for one day....

I just wish we were all more ALERT,,,
And understood what is happening all around us.