Perpetual virginity of Mary!

[Mungo]

There's no place in this scripture where it says she's giving birth to God

Is Jesus God or not?

 

[Mungo]

Glad you think so. Go ahead and continue to deny I used scripture

You said you paraphrased scripture. That's not quoting it.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Is Jesus God or not?

@BARNEY BRIGHT is a JW. So that's a whole different tangent.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Question for people on here--

On the grand scale of things, how important to you is this issue of whether or not a particular married woman had sex with her husband?

 

[Mungo]

@BARNEY BRIGHT is a JW. So that's a whole different tangent.

Oh I see.
Way off the wall then.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Oh I see.
Way off the wall then.

Let's try to be respectful of all people on here :)

 

[Mungo]

Question for people on here--

On the grand scale of things, how important to you is this issue of whether or not a particular married woman had sex with her husband?

In the case of Mary it's very important because it's about the holiness and Deity of Jesus.

Marian doctrines and titles are not defined to glorify Mary but to protect our understanding of Jesus.
“What the Catholic faith believes about Mary is based on what it believes about Christ, and what it teaches about Mary illumines in turn its faith in Christ.” (Catechism of the Catholic Church, para 487)

There is an old Catholic saying "Abandoning the Mother is one step from abandoning the Son".
Or as an Orthodox put it “To ignore the Mother means to misinterpret the Son”.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

In the case of Mary it's very important because it's about the holiness and Deity of Jesus.

Marian doctrines and titles are not defined to glorify Mary but to protect our understanding of Jesus.
“What the Catholic faith believes about Mary is based on what it believes about Christ, and what it teaches about Mary illumines in turn its faith in Christ.” (Catechism of the Catholic Church, para 487)

There is an old Catholic saying "Abandoning the Mother is one step from abandoning the Son".
Or as an Orthodox put it “To ignore the Mother means to misinterpret the Son”.

I'm only half understanding what you're saying:

Is Christ's magnificence dependent in any way on any mortal?
Is His magnificence lessened by any married couple having intercourse?
Does this threaten your salvation or anyone else's?

I'm trying to understand why of ALL the possible theological disagreements out there, why are people on both sides of the debate picking this particular hill to make the big argument over.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You said you paraphrased scripture. That's not quoting it.

I did not say I quoted scripture I said I used it. And I did not paraphrase it I used the words.

you need to apologize again for
Misrepresenting me. Although I do not expect one.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

@BARNEY BRIGHT is a JW. So that's a whole different tangent.

Hmm. Explains alot

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Question for people on here--

On the grand scale of things, how important to you is this issue of whether or not a particular married woman had sex with her husband?

For the woman and husband I think it means a lot

to everyone else. I mean really. Should we care?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

In the case of Mary it's very important because it's about the holiness and Deity of Jesus.

Marian doctrines and titles are not defined to glorify Mary but to protect our understanding of Jesus.
“What the Catholic faith believes about Mary is based on what it believes about Christ, and what it teaches about Mary illumines in turn its faith in Christ.” (Catechism of the Catholic Church, para 487)

There is an old Catholic saying "Abandoning the Mother is one step from abandoning the Son".
Or as an Orthodox put it “To ignore the Mother means to misinterpret the Son”.

Mary having sex or not having sex AFTER Jesus was born has no bearing on his dirty. Jesus would still be God in the flesh either way

 

[Jane_Doe22]

For the woman and husband I think it means a lot

to everyone else. I mean really. Should we care?

If you don't care, then why have this big argument about it?

Again, I'm trying to understand why of ALL the possible theological disagreements out there, why are people on both sides of the debate are picking this particular hill to make the big fuss over.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Lk 1: 35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

This scripture says who Mary would give birth to is, "the Son of God," not God

 

[Eternally Grateful]

If you don't care, then why have this big argument about it?

Again, I'm trying to understand why of ALL the possible theological disagreements out there, why are people on both sides of the debate are picking this particular hill to make the big fuss over.

I am having a discussion. Not an argument if other people make it an argument that’s on them

 

[Eternally Grateful]

This scripture says who Mary would give birth to is, "the Son of God," not God

When the angels came they called him
Immanuel. Meaning God with us

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Is Jesus God or not?

God's Holy Spirit consistently inspired men to write down that Jesus is the Only Begotten Son of God. The apostle John repeatedly describes the Lord Jesus Christ as the only-begotten Son of God. (Joh 1:14; 3:16, 18; 1Jo 4:9) This is not in reference to his human birth or to him as just the man Jesus. As the Loʹgos, or Word, “this one was in the beginning with God,” even “before the world was.” (Joh 1:1, 2; 17:5, 24) At that time while in his prehuman state of existence, he is described as the “only-begotten Son” whom his Father sent “into the world.”—1Jo 4:9.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

@BARNEY BRIGHT is a JW. So that's a whole different tangent.

Yes we believe what God's Holy Spirit inspired men to write down in scripture. Not imperfect men's thoughts.

 

[theefaith]

This scripture says who Mary would give birth to is, "the Son of God," not God

Is7:14 Emmanuel God with us!
Jn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

God's Holy Spirit consistently inspired men to write down that Jesus is the Only Begotten Son of God. The apostle John repeatedly describes the Lord Jesus Christ as the only-begotten Son of God. (Joh 1:14; 3:16, 18; 1Jo 4:9) This is not in reference to his human birth or to him as just the man Jesus. As the Loʹgos, or Word, “this one was in the beginning with God,” even “before the world was.” (Joh 1:1, 2; 17:5, 24) At that time while in his prehuman state of existence, he is described as the “only-begotten Son” whom his Father sent “into the world.”—1Jo 4:9.

The OT speak of the sin of man. Alive and well the God of Israel. Who we are told is sent by the father and spirit.

Thomas called Jesus God and Jesus did
Not correct him

also Jesus said before Abraham wasn’t he always existed (he used the same words here he used to Moses when Moses asked his name)